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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Looking for input from homebrewers
« on: July 25, 2018, 01:46:22 AM »
Geez guys...

OK they sound like they are developing a product and want input for free to make some money but, heck that is kind of how it works.

OP not the right approach, as you probably have guessed.

If you want participation you need to help your self a bit.  What are you asking about?  I know you are developing something so you are paranoid someone is going to "steal" your idea ( I worked for inventors once a long time ago), but that is not going to get you anywhere here.  So share a bit about what you are looking to do.  You should be able to do that with out exposing too much.  Then maybe you will get some answerers.  The question as posed is pretty meaningless.  What causes me problems?
Cost of, well everything.
Time, of well everything.
Are you going to "fix" any of that?  No!

So we all guessed that you will eventually want to sell us something.  That is OK just ask about what you want to know.  Also it would not hurt to know the topic a bit.  If your lead is a brewer then have him ask so he asks something that makes sense.

Oh I will plug something.
Basic (it's a pod cast) is worth listening to.  I would start with the early days and go forward if you can.  They have been at it for like ten years and it is a fantastic resource for new brewers.

They are pretty experienced now so some of the shows are not as "basic" as they used to be but it's fun and informative.  They also do some short video casts but the meat of the show is the audio podcasts.

There are other good shows but I think they are the best for new brewers.  I'm pretty experienced and I still listen every week.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: AHA Membership
« on: July 25, 2018, 01:29:16 AM »
I have been a member at various times.  I joined way back when.  Same time I bought the Joy of Home Brewing (it was folded and stapled and not too thick).  Either the book or the membership came with a "Relay, Don't Worry, Have a Homebrew" bumpersticker.  Then I didn't brew for a bunch of years and then I did and rejoined.  The incentive is mixed here since there are just very few places that have member deals around me.  But the magazine is pretty good and the AHA managed to get all 50 states legal so...  Next home distilling!

OK so I answered "no" because at this moment I'm a lapsed member but that will change in about a month.

I hear ya, and understand where you're coming from. I don't doubt that you've assessed the potential for harm against the effectiveness, convenience and cost. But I still recommend against glass for anyone just starting out.
I would agree with this.  I have used "glass" but it turned out it wasn't (it was a 7 gallon pyrex carboy!), a very different beast.  But even with out the emergency room issues it is a PITA because they are just a PITA.  Ale Pails are good.  I use them with cling wrap over the top and a giant O ring to seal (I use the O ring that is in 5Gal bucket lids).  I also bought some 8 gal. stainless pots on sale and use the same seal (it's a bit more work to stretch the O ring over the pot but it works).

Wow a lot of replies in a short time...

First the guy has nothing and is asking about a kettle so "fermentation control" is crazy past where he is.  I have been brewing since the 1980's and other than using a heat wrap to boost a bit in winter I have NEVER had any "fermentation control".  Refrigeration only came in in the middle of the 20th century so most beer historically has not had fermentation control.  Not saying it's a bad idea but just not pertinent to this topic.

Kettle wise you do not need a "fancy" kettle and I would not recommend one with a sight tube for wort, that will be a bugger to clean.

You need at least an 8 gallon for a five gallon batch but I would argue with others that you are better off with a 18+ gallon kettle.  The reason is you have room to expand and with 5 gallon batches you are pretty much boil over proof.  And it doesn't cost a lot more.

Other than pride (and you should take that in to account) there is very little functional difference between the cheapest kettle you can find and the most expensive.  Thick bottoms are great for stews and such but you are boiling water (essentially) so very limited advantages.  I have a pair of 8 gallon pots I got on sale from my LHBS for ~$30.  I use them alternately for brew pots and fermentors.  I have a 18 gallon pot with a sight tube and a thermometer that I use for a HLT.  I got it for ?!$40- $50 bucks on sale, and it replaced an aluminum pot I got used for $25.  I replaced it because it was too small (7 gal), the aluminum scare has been pretty solidly debunked.  And I have a 6-7 gal pot I got at a Chinese grocery a long time ago.  It's taller so less of a boil over risk.  All but the last I bought with a 1/2" coupling welded on.  The first pot I drilled a hone and added a bulkhead coupling and a valve, but I had brewed extract with it for years just as it came from the store.

BUT what I would do first is join whatever homebrew club meats closest to you and then ask about gear.  The chances are really high that someone has a pot they have out grown and would be willing to sell it to you for a lot less that a new one would cost.  That is how I got the aluminum HLT and it's how I will pass it along.

The other thing is I would look at some of these all in one systems.  You were going to drop $200 on a pot but for $300 you can get a "mash and brew" and that will let you get off the stove and do all grain (save a lot of $).

Something like this
would work well for $60 or this
for $90

RoboBrew $350
or Mash and Brew $300

I just posted links to one of my LHBS so buy local if possible.  I have seen cheaper prices for some of these items but it was easy to use my LHBS links.  I don't work for them and the links don't put anything in my pocket, they are just for reference.

Hope that was enough disclaimers...
Your local Home Brew Club is the best place to start.


Except in the summer I keep my kegs at basement temp and drink my beer at that temp ~60 or so.  In the summer I will chill some down, especially low gravity thirst quenchers.

And not sure how unpopular it is but I just don't bottle.  I have and if I want to send someone a beer I will still on occasion bottle a few but as a rule I just don't ever bottle.

Equipment and Software / Re: Fermenter Recommendations
« on: September 07, 2016, 08:18:56 PM »
Well I used buckets for years and like Denny have never had a problem.  But I use them a bit differently than most.  I don't use the lids.  What I do is put a few sheets of cling wrap over the top and use the rubber O Ring (that is in the bucket lid) as a big rubber band to hold the plastic in place and generously spray the exterior with StarSan.

It seals very well and you can watch if you like or just take a peak at how much the top as puffed up.  You basically end up fermenting under pressure (not much but a bit).

Because of durability questions and worries because the buckets never seem to loose a slight smell of prior batches, I have switched to 8 gal brew kettles with the same cling wrap and rubber band top.  Works really well and you can get them for a small fraction of any other stainless fermentor.

Zymurgy / Re: Zymurgy on Kindle Fire - SUCCESFUL INSTALL
« on: September 07, 2016, 07:17:09 PM »
This only works IF you have an android phone and a Kindle.  Any better/ more universal solutions?

Zymurgy / Re: Zymurgy Kindle?
« on: September 07, 2016, 07:14:07 PM »
So it's over three years past this thread start, is there a solution?

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