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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Yeast shipped warm.
« on: July 02, 2015, 06:30:19 AM »
Since the yeast are dormant in their packaging and there are no sugars or oxygen, I'm guessing the heat will kill off a few of them.

Have you tried getting your yeast from Morebeer?  With their distribution center in Penn., the transit time to Maryland should be minimal.  Keystone Homebrew has pretty quick turnaround time too. 

Other than that, doing a starter would be your best bet.

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Equipment and Software / Re: Fermentation Chamber suggestions
« on: June 30, 2015, 05:48:15 AM »
I use better bottles in a chest freezer and just lift them out carefully when I need to transfer.  I also put them in milk crates so I don't compress the BB when lifting.  On kegging/bottling day, I'll take the carboy out and put it on the table, then the time I spend setting up my keg, mixing up sanitizer and getting everything ready to go is enough for the small amount to resettle.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 25, 2015, 01:39:43 PM »
By the way PTE just won best beer, AGAIN! Feel free to join the BN and read my rant about that over there.

I just saw that and said, "Jim must be drinking early today" :)

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 25, 2015, 01:18:11 PM »
So, is the BN a business or a club, or is it both?  The problem isn't that the BN has active membership or that the BN has won several years in a row.  No one is booing the individual brewers that choose to enter under the BN name.  The problem is that the whole conference has turned into a BN marketing campaign.  The first evening event of the week is ticketed BN party, then BN is featured prominently in the exhibition hall selling merch, then BN wins the competition that they happen to be streaming and Justin gets up on stage to further promote the brand (no, not everyone should talk either or the banquet would be too long).  Sure, the GC could change things, but Justin also has influence there.

Did you read the second paragraph on Justin's post?  They get a booth in trade for providing this service to the AHA, which would either have to do it themselves or not at all.  How is the Brewing Network having a booth, selling merch any different from every other vendor in there? 

The BN anniversary party used to be separate, celebrating each anniversary date after the BN started in June 2005.  Once they started doing remotes from the conference, it made sense to do the BNA party during that week, outside the official dates of the conference (last year was a special circumstance).  What about all the other events on Tuesday and Wednesday...should we take them off the AHA site as well?

I disagree with not having everyone speak too.  I wish WHALES and Mark Schoppe (love the helmet by the way) would have said something...it's definitely their time to enjoy. 

And booing during the COTY announcement is booing those brewers who won, even if just by association.    Who would want to go up on stage to accept the award and be boo'd?  Kinda takes the fun out of it.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 25, 2015, 05:36:43 AM »
What doesn't make it seem unimportant is the name, Club of the Year sounds like a big deal.  I would be perfectly happy renaming the Gambrinus award Club of the Year, and calling the club with the most points in the competition the Gambrinus award winner or some other name.

So think about it.  Do we want to recognize the club with the most points in the competition or not?  If not, what should we be recognizing?
Rename Gambrinus to Homebrew Club of the Year and call the current COTY the "Juggernaut" award.  I even have the trophy picked out:

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 25, 2015, 05:29:16 AM »
Why is everyone so butt hurt over some booing?

Does no one here watch sports? Do winners not get booed all the time? It's par for the course, it is to be expected. I see the BN club like the Yankees; keep on booing and they will just keep on winning.

Statements like this get you removed from my Christmas card list (Red Sox fan).  ;D  Only thing worse would be being compared to the Cardinals (just kidding Amada).

I hope we never see the hatred that people have towards sports rivals in homebrewing.  Although a lot of people are in clubs and compete against one another, I've always seen homebrewing as a community trying to advance the hobby and brew some great beer, mead, cider, etc.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 24, 2015, 01:52:17 PM »
You lost me with the SF Giants comment...thanks a lot for the Panda  ::)

Well said Justin.  I think what burns me the most is due to these perceptions, mis or otherwise, there are fellow BN Army members taking the hit for brewing great beer and trying to be proud of the job they are doing as a club.  Also, it is unfair to the BN company to be taking a PR hit for something you and your staff have nothing to do with.  As I have mentioned in this thread, I have won 1st and 2nd round medals under the BN Club when I wasn't part of a local club.  Since joining a local club, I always enter under that, even though I'm the only one that competes on a regular basis and chances for COTY or Gambrinus are non-existent.  I also admit that when it comes to the BN, I tend to be a little protective.  You guys got me back into brewing (after some horribly bad early experiences) and I developed many new relationships with brewers that wouldn't have been available without the BN.

I've sent my thoughts to the Competition Committee and wait to see how this all pans out, but no one can blame you if you decide to pull the BN name form the club.  You've spent years developing your brand and have to protect it.  It would be easy to sit here and say "screw them", but in the end, that accomplishes nothing.

With that said, I look forward to seeing you guys out on the East Coast next year and oh...suck it JP!

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 24, 2015, 05:30:09 AM »
How much booing did the rest of you in attendance hear? I didn't hear a lot; less than some of the previous 4 years. I saw some eyerolls; probably did it myself. I heard some comments. Booing? Sounded like a handful.
I didn't attend but based on the livestream broadcast when I was listening live, it was worse than previous years.  Maybe the microphones were positioned in a way they picked up the high concentration of people that were booing.  Or maybe they picked up the one guy who was booing really loud and stormed out like a 3 year old.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 23, 2015, 01:33:08 PM »
Otherwise let's argue about the quality of dry vs. liquid yeast (liquid is better)

BOO!!! BOO!!! BOO!!  Dry is where it's at!  ;)


Regardless of rules or what Justin says, I doubt I'll write BN Army as my club anymore. It was fun, its not anymore.

Don't let them get you down Jim,  I'm more inclined to list the BN now.
I beginning to think the same thing.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 23, 2015, 12:38:46 PM »

They are having a discussion about this over on the BN forums:
http://www.thebrewingnetwork.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=297796#p297796

Someone from QUAFF even discusses that they would be the obvious winner if the BN were to disband, but the best comment IMHO is the person who states that the BN should not change anything as it the AHA's issue, not their's, which I wholeheartedly agree with. I'm still puzzled on how the BN separates the business from the club as I still don't think they have defined that line. Not that they have to, but since Justin seems to want to emphasize a separation between the 2, then I am curious how they go about doing that.

Other than the use of the BN forum as a rally point I wasn't aware the BN business had any involvement in the organization of participants in competitions.

It doesn't.
Right, but people like to make connections.  If they change the name to BNArmy and no one from the Brewing Network enters, accepts, or has anything to do with the comp, would it be acceptable?

What if each club loses 1 COTY point for every entry entered under their club that didn't medal?

Other than the use of the BN forum as a rally point I wasn't aware the BN business had any involvement in the organization of participants in competitions.
I think that is where the confusion exists. Quote from the BN forum: "How can they say this isn't a club? We get information monthly and share it, which is most than other clubs do. We meet on the forum and chat rooms."

Isn't all of that info created by BN the business and not BN the homebrew club?
Actually, Justin, JP and the rest have very little interaction on the forum and chat (I know JP just posted the thread mentioned above at Justin's request).  The forum moderators are several of us and our patron saint "Code".  The chat is monitored during the shows just to make sure bottom-feeding trolls don't ruin it for everyone, but the listeners in the chat let someone know when they've gone too far.

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The Pub / Re: If I could bother my friends here for a little help...
« on: June 23, 2015, 11:34:54 AM »
Voted for you...you're killin' it so far in the sweet sixteen.  However, if you go up against Salty Nut Brewery in the elite eight, I'm going to have to think about that one.  Or what about the Good People Brewing...they are afterall, good people  8)

Reposting the site so I don't have to go back to the 1st page:

http://scoutology.com/albeer/

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Woo hoo!
« on: June 23, 2015, 10:21:00 AM »
Congrats! Noticed your club is BN Army. We need a club that is AHA Forum.

Hey, I'd join that.
+2 - I've had the same thought as well. I generally consider this forum to be my "homebrew club" in a loose way. Certainly more so than the BN.

as I understand it someone just went on to the AHA website and registered BN. It wasn't even something anyone officially associated with the BN did. I don't see why we couldn't do the same. I'd join and I bet we'd give the BN crew a run for their money for COtY next year.

Don't we have a thread on this issue already?  ::)

Congrats again Jim!! 

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 23, 2015, 10:16:39 AM »
It was actually last night, but the podcast should be posted soon.  He addressed it within the first 30 minutes.

I think one of his biggest concerns is most equate the BN Club with the Brewing Network, and they are not the same.
I think Justin is the reason people do that. He is the face of both of them so to most they are one in the same. Maybe they should consider having an actual elected board for the BN club like most other homebrew clubs (not sure if that was addressed as I did not hear the live show).

He did mention one of the options next year was not go up on stage to accept the award.  He also said other options were to regionalize (sp) the club into East/West, 4 regions, 82 regions etc.  His final option to the club was not enter under the BN club next year.

If the last 2 are taken, it bascially becomes the Quaff club of the year award.  While deserving for brewing great beer, it doesn't really address the issue.  I know they only missed by 8 points this year, but I wonder if the AHA would release how many entries total under each club there were?

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 23, 2015, 10:03:28 AM »
Just heard that Justin will be addressing this controversy on the Session tonight at 6.
It was actually last night, but the podcast should be posted soon.  He addressed it within the first 30 minutes.

I think one of his biggest concerns is most equate the BN Club with the Brewing Network, and they are not the same.

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Kegging and Bottling / Re: Star san foam
« on: June 23, 2015, 10:02:34 AM »
If you pour all the liquid out and only have foam left, when you fill from the bottom, the foam is the first thing that comes out.  Even that small amount will have no effect.

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