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Beer Recipes / Re: Kolsch Guidance
« on: Today at 10:41:44 AM »
What strain is WLP029?

I have been advised against using that in an Alt but it sounds like 2565 could be a good solution for my Kolsch and Alt...

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: classification for beer comp
« on: June 30, 2015, 08:04:25 AM »
Sorry it was late and I was tired... Yeah the witbier would be 16E... I missed the base style.

I am glad you guys pointed that out. I definitely would have missed that...

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Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Montejo?
« on: June 30, 2015, 07:52:58 AM »
Pale piss-water. I think they only waved a hop-cone in the general direction of the wort...

Refreshing in this heat though.

So when you say pale piss-water can you give a comparison beer so I know what we're dealing with here?

Sol or Pacifico come immediately to mind. And Corona light- though I can't remember the last time I had one.

It's ok this Montejo. Very pale- maybe 1 SRM. I'm not getting any off flavors.

I can deal with that. Pacifico is one of my go to Mexican beers...

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: classification for beer comp
« on: June 30, 2015, 07:50:41 AM »
Okay well I just locked in 4 entries; light lager, light hybrid, french and belgian, & SHV.

At only $3 an entry I figure why not? Now, I just need to get better at bottling from the keg...

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: classification for beer comp
« on: June 30, 2015, 06:53:16 AM »
That is very helpful. Thanks for your help. I mis-classified an entry for my last competition which hurt the score.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: classification for beer comp
« on: June 30, 2015, 06:36:57 AM »
Okay it is apparently BJCP sanctioned. I thought it was strange that you have to include your own 3x5 card with the beer name and ingredients...

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: classification for beer comp
« on: June 30, 2015, 06:14:22 AM »
Well I am a bit confused now. I think I can only have one entry per category so entering both in 23 is not an option. It appears that they are using 2008 guidelines however are grouping most subcategories together; 16A-E will be one category.

After clicking around, it appears that this may not be BJCP sanctioned this year although they are using the guidelines. I will have to investigate.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: classification for beer comp
« on: June 29, 2015, 02:33:59 PM »
I would think that if the lime and lemongrass are not strong you could just enter it as a blonde.

But I don't compete much.

I had not considered that. This particular beer will be kegged in the next couple of days so I will have to make a judgement call on the strength of the lime/lemograss and consider some aging time as a mellowing factor... I may just go with specialty to be safe since I also have an american wheat that I might enter and would end up in the light hybrid category.

"Some versions may have honey, spices and/or fruit added, although if any of these ingredients are stronger than a background flavor they should be entered in specialty, spiced or fruit beer categories instead."

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: classification for beer comp
« on: June 29, 2015, 01:58:27 PM »
So I am thinking that the wit needs to go in the S/H/V category since the pineapple and the dry hops are not very noticeable so the habanero basically makes it a pepper beer.

The lime/lemongrass should then go in specialty since I didn't use any of the actual fruit?

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Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Montejo?
« on: June 29, 2015, 01:47:29 PM »
Pale piss-water. I think they only waved a hop-cone in the general direction of the wort...

Refreshing in this heat though.

So when you say pale piss-water can you give a comparison beer so I know what we're dealing with here?

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: What makes a lager a lager?
« on: June 29, 2015, 01:39:35 PM »
Sorry if I had started a dumb topic. That was not my intention. I guess the only prerequisite for a lager is lager yeast. I suppose temp doesn't matter.
Sorry, man, didn't mean to offend, directly, anyway. I just thought it seemed like a fairly obvious answer. As a brewer who brews mostly lagers, I guess I'm a bit biased? It would seem Mark has a more scientific answer, even though I don't agree with the cold storage argument. Maybe he didn't read my post about Zwicklbier, zoiglbier, kellerbier, etc. Those beers aren't lagered for long periods of time, although kellerbier is longer than the other two, but still...it's typically still cloudy and young. You think Germans call those lagers? You bet they do. And by that same logic, altbier is typically lagered for long periods, but they don't call those lagers, same for Kolsch.

Any beer can be fined and dropped bright or filtered, making it look like a lager with very little time in cold storage. Does this make it not a lager since it isn't being stored cold for long periods? Still think that's not good enough of an argument.

No offense taken.

I guess I was looking past or not considering the most obvious answers. I think the answer to my question is that you can make an ale that will pass off as a lager but it isn't a real 'lager'. I already knew this but again was looking past the most direct answer. It may win first place against real lagers but it is an imposter. In simpler terms, it all comes down to tradition. A traditional German pils isn't going to use American two row, etc...

My take away is that there is an argument for tradition vs. impression.

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: What makes a lager a lager?
« on: June 29, 2015, 12:24:48 PM »
Sorry if I had started a dumb topic. That was not my intention. I guess the only prerequisite for a lager is lager yeast. I suppose temp doesn't matter.

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General Homebrew Discussion / classification for beer comp
« on: June 29, 2015, 10:43:17 AM »
I brewed two beers; a witbier that is dry hopped with citra and has habanero and pineapple in it and an American Blonde with lime zest and lemongrass.

Should these be classified as fruit beer, spice/herb/vegetable, or specialty?

Can I get away with just entering both in the specialty category? Oh wait I can probably only have one entry per category...



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Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Stone Pale Ale 2.0
« on: June 29, 2015, 06:57:56 AM »
I have been wanting to try this and Ruination 2.0 since they were released. Stone is a hit and miss kind of brewery for me but I do like most of their hoppy stuff. I do appreciate the fact that they are willing to move on from any outdated flagships and wish other big breweries would follow suit (I am looking at you Fat Tire)...

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Beer Recipes / Re: Kolsch Guidance
« on: June 29, 2015, 06:49:13 AM »
Chalk me up as another one who likes a bit of vienna and wheat in mine. I also got the advice here to only do a FWH addition of noble hops which worked really well for me. I have really liked WLP029 but I think its time to give WY2565 a try next time.

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