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Kegging and Bottling / Re: mastered kegging...issues when I bottle
« on: August 15, 2016, 04:03:53 AM »
Not sure I'm reading this correctly but if the beer is fully carbed in the keg you don't need to add carbonation tabs to the bottle when you bottle off a keg.

Kegging and Bottling / Re: beer gun
« on: August 06, 2016, 06:17:29 AM »
I can't say I've done 3.5 volumes before, but I've bottled plenty of beers using my beer gun with such minimal foaming that I often "finish" the bottle with a blast of CO2 to create some foam for capping.

Cold, speed and gravity are your friends here. You mentioned chilling the bottles, but to maximize impact I'd recommend getting the beer, the line, the gun and the bottles to 34F. Also chill a pint glass and run some off into the glass for yourself. This helps equilibrate everything (including you) ;)

Once things are cold and flowing, pay attention to keeping things cold and flowing. If you set the gun down for a few minutes to get more bottles or caps, the beer in the line will warm up. Pumping beer that's warmed in the line into a colder bottle will produce foam. Pumping cold beer into a warm bottle will produce foam. Yes, there are a lot of ways to screw this up.

Also, pay attention to the impact of gravity. Blichmann mentioned this on an old episode of Brew Strong. Just like draft serving setups, you can drop pressure either by adding more line or by adding a vertical rise. I tend to bottle on a desk with the keg sitting on the floor, so that vertical rise is probably helping me out there.

Hope this helps!
Gravity helped.  Bottling at the ceiling got the job done.  It's a low fill but it's still a fill.  Thanks

Kegging and Bottling / Re: beer gun
« on: August 03, 2016, 08:47:48 AM »
Started the pressure at 4psi.  Backed it down to nothing, vented, and increased it slowly until i could just barely get CO2 through the beergun.  Tried from there all the way to 10 psi.  Supposedly it should bottle at this pressure.  Wonder if I need a really long beer hose for this.

Kegging and Bottling / beer gun
« on: August 03, 2016, 07:44:17 AM »
Trying (and failing) to bottle a Grodziskie today using a Blichmann beer gun.  I bottled a few bottle of witbier (same freezer/bottles) first-no problem.  CO2 regulator is new. Beer is at 34F and 3.5 volumes of CO2.   Bottles have been in a 34F freezer for 3 days.  10 ft of the small diameter (1/8") line.  Vented keg.  Poured 3 qts of foam.

Any thoughts?  Off to bottle Oktoberfest now.

Equipment and Software / Re: Kegerator question
« on: July 30, 2016, 12:48:19 PM »
I suppose you could transition ball lock fittings onto the water line.  At the same time I'm thinking of the cliche just because you can doesn't mean you should

The Pub / Re: I'm back...
« on: July 27, 2016, 07:09:58 PM »
I teach high school.  Would not ever want any part of the record-keeping/ meetings of sped.

Clarity might only be worth a point, but it can cause a placebo effect on the judge. Not saying it should, just that it could.

Agreed particularly if it's scored 'top down'.

All Grain Brewing / Re: Berliner Wiesse
« on: July 23, 2016, 09:09:43 AM »
Update- I purchased two bottles of Bayerischer Bahnhof Berliner Style Weisse, drank them, made notes, and dumped them into the Berliner carboy back in June.  Just took a sample- 1.003 and noticeably sour.  I didn't test with a pH meter but the sample matched my notes and memory.

Now I need to carbonate this.  The original plan was to bottle condition it with 5 oz of cane sugar.  My guess is that there isn't much of the original yeast (1007) left in good condition.  It occurred to me that the acidic beer might be inhospitable to fresh yeast.  I have a packet of s04 that I planned to use.

Anybody have experience with this situation?


Beer Recipes / Re: marzen
« on: July 22, 2016, 07:32:26 AM »
Started subbing some Kolsch malt for pils in several lager recipes.  I've been pretty happy with the results- seems like the malt became more pronounced with fewer and smaller crystal malt additions.  Ofest on tap right now is:42% Kolsch, 28% Vienna, 28% Munich, and 2% Caramunich added at vorlauf just for a little color.

Kegging and Bottling / Re: Kegerator frustrations
« on: July 21, 2016, 12:20:15 PM »
Should also mention that the carpenter that built the bar trim is getting impatient.  Something about how the plumbers always hold up the project.

Kegging and Bottling / Re: Kegerator frustrations
« on: July 21, 2016, 12:19:15 PM »
Currently at 10 feet of line at 38F air temp in the cooler.  15 second pour for a pint- just for reference, obviously not a commercial operation under time constraints.  In my opinion (SWAG) it is pouring at about 60%.  Now my reference was to 1/4 inch line in the previous kegerator with different faucets.  Its better but not there yet.

EHall- thanks for the pdf; lots of great information.  I have to believe at this point that this 3/16 line has much less resistance than the traditional 3/16 line.

Kegging and Bottling / Re: Kegerator frustrations
« on: July 20, 2016, 11:06:05 AM »
I would agree that 14 feet is a lot- at 2.2 lb/ft of resistance and 2 feet of lift I wouldn't think it would pour at all.

All three kegs were tapped using a cobra/picnic tap and all poured fine before being transferred into the kegerator.

Is the 2.2 lb/ft of resistance accurate?  Does anyone who has this line installed want to chime in with their experience?

Sorry if the frustration comes through the keyboard.  Thanks for the tips so far.

Kegging and Bottling / Re: Kegerator frustrations
« on: July 20, 2016, 10:37:04 AM »
They all pour slowly.  I've vented all 3 kegs - APA in there too- and reduced pressure to 12 psi.  Beer trickles out but isn't foamy. 

Kegging and Bottling / Kegerator frustrations
« on: July 20, 2016, 08:45:50 AM »
Just built a new kegerator and am having a difficult time plumbing it.  The CO2 regulator is set to 15 psi and the cooler is at 39-40F.  I have checked the regulator against another CO2 regulator and have taken the temp with a Thermopen in the beer being dispensed as well as a jar of water left in the cooler overnight.  I had very little difficulty plumbing my previous kegerator but this one is killing me.  Right now I have 14 feet of 3/16 inch ultra barrier silver plumbed to one perlick faucet.  MoreBeer claims that this line has a resistance of 2.2 lb/ft which looks to be reasonable.  I have about 2 feet of rise from the center of the keg to the faucet.  Math isn't my career or specialty but it would seem to me that 6 feet of line would be about right.  Not even close- straight foam even after the first two pints- more than enough to fill the line with beer fresh from the keg.  So I attached the remaining 14 feet.  It gets really interesting here.  I was testing on an Oktoberfest and it occurred to me that I was going to go through a lot of a favorite beer getting the line length correct.  The Ofest poured slowly through the 14 foot line but not foamy.  I switched to a Helles- same CO2 manifold, cooler, regulator everything as the Ofest.  Straight foam.  What could possibly be happening here?

Previous kegerator was 1/4 inch vinyl lines.  Had them figured out in a few minutes.

Thanks in advance for any ideas.  Hopefully I'm overlooking something simple.

Equipment and Software / Re: Add a secondary regulator
« on: June 29, 2016, 04:58:57 PM »
Thanks Martin

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