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Pimp My System / Re: Peltier Cooled Conical
« on: June 24, 2014, 07:58:00 AM »
Great info,+1 on the link to parts list and wiring diagram,not working,would like to get the info.

If anyone wants a copy of the document, please email me your address.  I can't seem to get the link to work for some reason.  My email is ddcurtis@suddenlink.net

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Another band-aid off flavor post
« on: March 07, 2014, 06:34:57 AM »
Here is the table I use for this particular off flavor:

How is it caused?                                    How can it be avoided/controlled?
Wild yeast                                                Use pure yeast strains
Improper sanitation                                   Practice good sanitation
Some malt types                                      Use "clean" malt
Some yeast strains                                   Use yeast less prone to phenolic production
Chlorophenols in water                               Filter tap water
Improper rinse of chlorine sanitizers             use non-chlorine sanitizer
Oversparging; sparging above pH 6.0
sparging above 170°F.                                  Proper sparging while monitoring pH and temperature   


From my experience, if you are using RO water and don't have a problem with sanitation, it would probably be related to either the yeast strain or sparging issues as noted above.  RO water should not have anything left in it that would cause you a problem and I have never had an issue with StarSan.

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Pimp My System / Re: Peltier Cooled Conical
« on: March 06, 2014, 10:26:27 AM »
Do you recommend a parts supplier?  I'm guessing you're beyond CPU peltiers; curious as to what wattage you're at and if there's an inexpensive source for the heat sinks.  Thanks.

Link to Word Document with parts info and wiring diagram
https://app.box.com/files/0/f/0/1/f_15032574648


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Pimp My System / Re: Peltier Cooled Conical
« on: March 05, 2014, 05:56:08 PM »
I've been thinking of doing something like this for a while now, glad a ran across this thread.  I'm not too familiar with peltier devices. Do you simply apply one the opposite direction of the other to control both heating and cooling? Would the peltiers easily wire into a ranco type controller?

From what I understand, you need to change the polarity of the peltiers to heat.  I did not do this but rather installed a 120v adhesive block heating pad to the conical to do the heating for me.  It was much simpler, and I believe cheaper, than switching polarity based on cool/heat need.  As for wiring, you power the peltiers with a computer power supply with 12v.  This power supply would then plug into the ranco type controller and the controller would turn on/off the power supply.  There are some wiring issues like jumpering wires on the power supply that you need to do.  I have all the details if you need them.

Great, thanks. If it's not a big deal for you to send over the details on the wiring, that would be awesome. Electrical is not my area of expertise by a long shot so any help I could get would be a huge help!

If you have an email, or if there is a way to pm on here, I can send you some documents. No problem.

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Pimp My System / Re: Peltier Cooled Conical
« on: March 05, 2014, 12:55:07 PM »
Where did you get the aluminum block?

I was fortunate enough to have a friend of a friend who milled them for me free.  I bought the aluminum bar stock online.  You need to find someone with a CNC machine to do the milling.  There should be a shop with this equipment near you somewhere.

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Pimp My System / Re: Peltier Cooled Conical
« on: March 05, 2014, 12:53:58 PM »
I've been thinking of doing something like this for a while now, glad a ran across this thread.  I'm not too familiar with peltier devices. Do you simply apply one the opposite direction of the other to control both heating and cooling? Would the peltiers easily wire into a ranco type controller?

From what I understand, you need to change the polarity of the peltiers to heat.  I did not do this but rather installed a 120v adhesive block heating pad to the conical to do the heating for me.  It was much simpler, and I believe cheaper, than switching polarity based on cool/heat need.  As for wiring, you power the peltiers with a computer power supply with 12v.  This power supply would then plug into the ranco type controller and the controller would turn on/off the power supply.  There are some wiring issues like jumpering wires on the power supply that you need to do.  I have all the details if you need them.

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Pimp My System / Re: Peltier Cooled Conical
« on: February 26, 2014, 04:11:40 PM »
Nice. This is similar to the MoreBeer Ultimate Conical - dual peltiers to handle a hotter external climate. While I love mine and the ability to ferment at stable temps - it freaks out when the weather is hot and humid.


Something to keep an eye on - in humid environments the peltier can build ice which will reduce efficiency - and potentially create issues with the fans and heatsinks. You don't want ANY ice building up into a niche between the conical and the sink surface or creeping up to the fan. When cold crashing mine - I have to cycle the system in humid weather to make sure the ice doesn't create a problem about once a day for an hour. You may want to seal all of the edges with silicone to prevent moisture seep into the thermal paste - looks that way from the pics - but not sure.


Same issue with PC CPU peltiers - for the record.

Thanks for the tips. Fortunately mine is used in my basement where I don't have a lot of humidity swings from the house a/c. I'll keep an eye on it.

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Pimp My System / Re: Peltier Cooled Conical
« on: February 26, 2014, 12:22:28 PM »
I had no idea that Peltier coolers could do this.  What are the 4 Peltier coolers rated for power-wise?

They are approximately 180W max each.

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Pimp My System / Re: Peltier Cooled Conical
« on: February 26, 2014, 09:22:38 AM »
cool (pardon the pun).

how's the power consumption? do you have anything between the chiller and the conical to improve thermal transfer?

I am not measuring power consumption, but am about as efficient as I can be I think.  I had the blocks lapped to make them very smooth and use heat sink thermal paste not only on both sides of the peltier chips, but also between the aluminum blocks and the conical.

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Pimp My System / Peltier Cooled Conical
« on: February 26, 2014, 09:15:09 AM »
When purchasing my conical fermenter a few years ago, I just couldn't swallow the extra cost for a cooled unit.  I purchased the un-cooled version and lived with it for a year or so.  However, as my geek nature wasn't happy with lack of temperature control, my creative juices started flowing.  Attached are pictures of the peltier cooling and heating (with block heater) setup I built for my 14 gallon conical fermenter.  It is working great and has been able to get 14 gallons down to 33F with an ambient temperature of 67F.  I am loving this thing and now moving into lagers with my newfound temperature control.  I also fitted my 7 gallon conical with the same setup, except only 2 peltier chips instead of 4.  I have way less in this build than buying a pre-made peltier cooled fermenter.  Cheers!

COOLING BLOCK WITH PELTIER CHIPS AND HEAT SINKS MOUNTED

FERMENTER SHOWING ONE OF TWO BLOCKS INSTALLED


FERMENTER MOSTLY INSULATED


CONTROLLER&POWER SUPPLY OUTSIDE BREWERY


BULLET PLUGS INSIDE BREWERY TO "PLUG IN" FERMENTER


ICE ON ALUMINUM BLOCK


ICE ON INSIDE OF FERMENTER

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Brewing Calculator and Mash Eff
« on: February 12, 2013, 06:12:32 PM »
...You then calculate the Maximum Ppg As-Is for each grain on the bill with the following equation:

Max-Ppg As-Is= (Max Ppg*lbs of grain)/pre boil volume
It doesn't have to be pre-boil volume.  Post-boil volume and gravity will give you the same value.
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Beersmith uses brewhouse effiiciency and estimates a mash efficiency. For this to be correct, you must go to your equipment profile and enter your system losses correctly or the estimated mash efficiency will not be right.
Beersmith has an implementation of this that continues to confuse people, much like it's bizarre suggestions of multiple small batch sparges.  It may be a lot easier to just do the calculation by hand, using 36 ppg as a decent average potential, if you don't have the actual potential for your lot of grain.

I totally agree.  I only use pre-boil volume because sometimes I add honey, or other fermentables to the boil that will throw off my mash efficiency if I use post boil gravity.  Yes, I agree the Beersmith implementation is quite confusing and frustrating when you really want mash efficiency to be repeatable.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Brewing Calculator and Mash Eff
« on: February 11, 2013, 01:42:02 PM »
Mash efficiency is calculated from the maximum Ppg of the grain bill you are using, the actual points you get from your pre-boil gravity, and the pre-boil volume. You can research maximum extractable sugar, or Ppg, online for the grains you are using. You then calculate the Maximum Ppg As-Is for each grain on the bill with the following equation:

Max-Ppg As-Is= (Max Ppg*lbs of grain)/pre boil volume

Then you sum up all of the Max-Ppg As-Is for each grain in your grain bill and that is the maximum points you can get from your grain bill and pre-boil volume.

You then measure the pre-boil gravity to calculate your efficiency as below:

If your summed Max-Ppg As-Is = 49 points or a gravity of 1.049 and you measured a pre-boil gravity of 1.040, the mash efficiency is calculated as:

Mash Efficiency= 40/49 = .816 or 81.6%

Beersmith uses brewhouse effiiciency and estimates a mash efficiency. For this to be correct, you must go to your equipment profile and enter your system losses correctly or the estimated mash efficiency will not be right. The brewhouse efficiency is a combination of mash efficiency and system losses to calculate an overall total efficiency. They have some helpful aids on the Beersmith web page to describe this in more detail.


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Homebrewer Bios / Brewer Bio: Dan Curtis
« on: February 08, 2013, 08:13:28 AM »

Home Town (City, State): Parkersburg, WV
Homebrew Club: Infamous Parkersburg Alers (IPA's)
I've been a homebrewer since: 2009
Do you have a homebrewing disaster you'd like to share?I would have to say the time I blew the airlock off of my conical fermenter.  I was new to brewing, and very new to high gravity beers.  I had brewed a 1.08OG beer and added yeast nutrient when I loaded it into the fermenter.  I was fermenting in a small finished room off of our kitchen to control temperature at the time.  When I left for work everything looked fine.  However, when I returned, I knew I was in trouble.  The krausen had plugged the airlock and I had blown it and about a quart of brown "crap" all over the floor, walls, and ceiling.  I spend hours cleaning this one up, needless to say without any help.  My wife was not too happy.  A good lesson on blowoff tubes, high gravity brewing, and yeast nutrient.  Just wish I could have learned a little easier.

What is your favorite style(s) to brew?I love brewing stouts and IPA's.  The complexity of a stout and toying with hopping on IPA's is quite enjoyable. UPDATE:  I am crazy about sour's now and love brewing them.  The added step of a sour starter is more complicated but man I love this stuff!!!
What style(s) will you never brew?I can't say there is a style I will NEVER brew.  I will try anything once!

What was the first beer you ever brewed?  How did it turn out?
I started out with an India Brown Ale.  I think it turned out like intended.  Threre were no real issues with it, just didn't really fit my taste.

Have you ever had a homebrew mistake that turned out great?I guess it would be forgetting to add rice hulls to my oatmeal stout mash.  I did this once and will never forget again.  I had to dump the mash tun into buckets, clean out the false bottom, and start again.  For this batch, I had to do this twice during the mash.  I was sure I would not hit my gravity and have flavor issues with all of the temperature swings and manipulation of the wort but to my surprise, I hit the gravity right on and the beer tasted great.

What is your favorite beer recipe?
For now I would have to say my oatmeal stout.  The grain bill is complex and the addition of oak chips in the secondary makes this a fun beer to brew.

Are you a BJCP Judge? Not Yet! But hopefully soon.

Do you have a favorite homebrew trick or gadget that you've found to make your beer better/brewing easier, etc?
I  rigged up a screen filter to remove hops from my beer when transferring from the conical fermenter to either a bottling bucket or keg.  It works great, is easy to clean and sterilize, and gets all the hops out for a clean brew.

Describe your brew system.
I love my system!  I brewed with gas and coolers for a few years and then took the plunge!  I now have a 99% Kal clone from the electricbrewery.com.  I love this system.  Temperature control, efficiency, and batch repeatability are so improved.  I have three 20 gallon Blichmann's for my HLT, Mash Tun, and Boil Kettle.  The HLT and Boil Kettle are heated with 5500W ultra low density heating elements.  I use two March 809 pumps with 3/4" center inlet and 1/2" outlet and polysulfone heads (not stainless like Kal's sytem).  I just added a 14 gallon Morebeer! conical fermenter to my system and have to say I love this fermenter!  As you can probably tell, I could talk about my baby for hours and share a photo album of pictures from her birth through today. UPDATE:  I recently built peltier cooling for my 7 and 14 gallon conical fermenters.  Now I can lager in them as well.

How frequently do you brew (times/month or /year)?
Roughly twice per month.  Sometimes more, sometimes less.

What is your favorite malt?  I really like the flavor and aroma of Belgian Aromatic.  This malt makes my mouth water just huffing the bag of grains.

What is your favorite hop? So far, it would be Amarillo.  This hop has a unique aroma and flavor.  I enjoy seeing how I can fit it in to any recipe.

Do you have a favorite or house yeast? What qualities do you like about that yeast?
I use Safale US-05 a lot for IPA's, ambers,etc...  I have had great results from this yeast and it is easy to clean up and re-use.  I also like Wyeast Pacman for stouts.  This yeast has provided me with great results.

Do you have a good homebrew club story you'd like to share? Not yet! Club is pretty new.  I'm sure someone will slip up at some point and give me a great story to share.

If you could serve your homebrew to someone famous, who would it be and what would you give her/him?
Boy, this is a hard one.  I guess it would have to be Bar Rafaeli.  I would give her my chocolate stout and hope the aphrodesiac qualities of chocolate are not a myth!

What's the most unusual ingredient you've ever used in a brew? Habanero Peppers.

Do you have any pets or kids named after beer styles or ingredients?
Not yet but you have now given me inspiration.  I may have to get a new pet. Have enough kids.

How many medals have you won from homebrew competitions?
So far I have only entered one competition.  I got fist place on the two beers I entered.  I was quite proud and happy of the results.

Do you brew alone, with friends or with someone you live with?
I mostly brew alone.  My 2yr old grandson loves to help and is frequently my assistant brewer.  Sometimes we will have a club brew at my place.

Are you an indoor or outdoor brewer? Indoor, thanks to Kal!

List some of the names you've given your beers.
Hot for Teacher habanero amber, Hull&Oats oatmeal stout, Jack Head pumpkin ale.  These are fun beers with fun names.

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