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Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC First Round Results
« on: April 16, 2011, 01:25:03 PM »
Hi everyone,

As I am sure you are all aware, every competition has its own background that can contribute to the problems of finishing of judging 750 entries in one weekend.  Dallas just finished the Bluebonnet competition in March. Having the NHC competition so soon after the Bluebonnet was a concern of mine in the decision to move the competition back to TX.  From what I understand, the local judges were not very involved in the first weekend of judging, but the out of town judges made a good run at the entries.  This weekend we are confident that the local judges will help to finish the competition before the April 23rd deadline.

In my experience, it is not an easy thing to devote two weekends in a row to judging, especially at this time of year.  Who among us doesn't have chores around the house and in the garden at this time?  Who among us doesn't have a neglected spouse and family and/or a job that demands equal or better time. I'm sure there is no one out there thinking the continuation of judging in any of these competitions is being done for any reason other than that there are still entries to be judged.

The organizers of the First Round NHC competitions are volunteers who take on a HUGE task for the benefit of the entrants and the AHA.  We couldn't put on this competition without these volunteers.  I think they are doing the best they can under the circumstances.  So, give them a break.  They all know you are waiting for your results.  Please try to be patient.


Homebrew Competitions / NHC First Round Needs Judges!
« on: April 15, 2011, 10:17:15 AM »
Hi everyone,

Attention all BJCP judges and also all experienced judges!

Out of 6 competitions started in the first two weekends, only 3 have finished. This weekend we are trying to finish the competitions in progress, as well as start and complete the last 3 competitions.  We need judging help to finish these 2 competitions:

Albany, NY Judging at the Albany Pump Station ( in Albany this weekend.  Food will be provided.  Contact Jim Kehrer ( or Reed Antis ( to volunteer as a judge or steward.

Dallas, TX Judging at the Coors Distributing Co.( in Fort Worth, TX this weekend.  Food will be provided.  Contact Jimmy Orkin ( or Leroy Gharis ( to volunteer as a judge or steward.

We also need volunteers to help with these competitions which are starting this weekend (April 15-17):

Nashville, TN Judging at the Courtyard Marriott ( in Goodlettsville, TN this weekend.  Food will be provided.  Contact Jonathan Adams ( or Brandon Jones ( to volunteer as a judge or steward.

Indianapolis, IN Judging at the Sun King Brewing Co. ( in Indianapolis this weekend.  Food will be provided.  Contact Ron Smith ( or Brian Steuerwald ( to volunteer as a judge or steward.

Lodi, CA Judging at the Lodi Beer Co. ( in Lodi, CA this weekend.  Food will be provided.  Contact Brian Cooper ( to volunteer as a judge or steward.

Wondering whether your beer has been judged yet?  Check out the NHC First Round Competition status on the main NHC page (  None of the competition results will be posted until the results of all 9 U.S. First Round competitions and the results of the Canadian qualifier competition can be posted simultaneously; so let's finish these competitions!  First Round results will be posted here: within 2 weeks of the last competition finishing their judging.



The Pub / Re: Babalu
« on: April 05, 2011, 04:19:01 PM »
Thanks for the positive update, Frank!
It sounds like Jeff is making progress again; that's fabulous news!

Keep working, Jeff!


General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC results question
« on: April 05, 2011, 08:07:20 AM »
I may be just overlooking it, but I can't seem to find this info anywhere on the NHC page. 

I'm not expecting to win, I really just wanted a professional's opinion.  Will I still get my score results if I'm not one of the top 3 and don't qualify for a certificate?  Are there comments on the score card that are included also? 

Hi Green Dragon,

As with any AHA/BJCP Sanctioned Competition, you will receive score sheets from the First Round NHC competition within 1 to 2 weeks of the competition completion.  The comments on the score sheets should give you good feedback about your beer and perhaps suggestions about how to improve it.  Even if your entry does not qualify for a ribbon or a certificate, you will still receive a letter from the AHA.  This feedback will be sent in mid-May by me. 

If you have any questions about the competition, you can look in the Homebrew Competition board which is a child board under Events:  If you don't see your question on that board, that is the place to ask it.

Thanks for entering the 2011 National Homebrew Competition!  Good luck in the competition!


Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC First Round Results
« on: April 04, 2011, 06:50:47 AM »
Some regions get the results in the hands of the entrants quickly some do not.  If it comes in the mail first, that is good.

As I said Janis will post the best reply.

Thanks for the vote of confidence!


Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC First Round Results
« on: April 04, 2011, 06:49:39 AM »
Waiting for score sheets is expected, but will there be an on-line source for finding the first three advancing entries from each category? Perhaps something from each location posted as soon as the results are known. Anyone have the web addresses for individual sites or a central location?
Hi Tesquino,

You will get results from the competition two ways: on the web site and through the mail.  The first two NHC competitions took place this weekend; one finished and the other needs more time.  The 9 competitions in the U.S. must be completed by April 25th.  The ALES Home Brew Open competition tales place April 11-16.  All competitions must return their databases to me for processing before any results will be posted on the web site.

Each competition's site director will send out score sheet results within one to two weeks of the completion of their competition.  If your competition started and finished early in the April 1-25 time frame, you may get your results by mail sooner than later.  The web results will be posted by the first week of May at the latest.

If you have an entry that placed 1st, 2nd, or 3rd in the First Round competition, you will be notified by mail from the AHA about how to submit your entries to the Final Round.  That mailing will go out around the second week of May.  The Final Round entry due date can be found on the main NHC web page, and you will need 3 bottles.  The AHA will send the bottle labels to use for the Final Round.

If you have further questions about the NHC you can e-mail me directly at

Good luck in the competition!


General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 2011 NHC label requirements
« on: March 27, 2011, 11:34:03 AM »
Hi all,

I'm sorry I took down all of the links to the Online registrations program.  The link is

I have added one live link on the Entry Shipping/Drop-off page:

Good luck in the competition!


General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC Entry Questions
« on: March 25, 2011, 03:52:46 PM »
My brewing buddy and I decided to enter an American Stout that we brewed last Oct. in the NHC.  We registrered and shipped it to Dallas on Monday.  If I'm not mistaken the judging in on April 9 for Dallas.  I've never entered a comp before and we were just curious what happens after that?  Do you get a score in the mail/e-mail?  How long does it usually take?  I'm pretty sure it's not going to happen but how do you know if you move on to the next round?

Congratulations on entering your homebrew in the National Homebrew Competition!

At the competition, your beer will be judged in one of 5 or 6 flights of stouts (due to the number of entries in this category).  Two or three judges will each evaluate a sample of your beer and fill out a Score Sheet with their observations and suggestions.  The judges confer on the scores and arrive at a consensus score for the entry.  If the entry scores above 30 points (out of 50) and is one of the top three entries in the flight (out of ~10 entries), the remaining beer will be preserved by capping or corking the bottle so it can be judged in a mini-Best-of-Show (mini-BOS).  All 5 or 6 flights will submit the top 2 or 3 entries in their flight for the mini-BOS.  The highest ranking BJCP judges from the flights will then evaluate each of the beers in the mini-BOS. There could be 10 to 18 beers in the mini-BOS.  this time, the judges do not fill out a score sheet for each beer.  Instead they evaluate the beers and begin to reduce the number of beers by consensus.  Ultimately the judges arrive at a consensus decision for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place in the category.

When the competition is completed, the organizer and their staff will send out your score sheets with a letter stating that the AHA will send another mailing of ribbons for the winners and certificates for qualifying scores for the entrants.  The mailing from the AHA will take place in May.  If your entry places in the First Round, the mailing from the AHA contains the ribbon for your award and a certificate based on how the beer scored.  You will also get all the information needed to submit your entry to the Final Round of the competition.

Good luck in the competition!


General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC Small Duvel Bottles
« on: March 23, 2011, 08:26:51 AM »
Thanks, Ron!


Homebrew Competitions / Re: NHC Region Rule
« on: March 23, 2011, 08:13:48 AM »
They want ALL entries from a member to go to the judging center,  That way you can't send the same beer to multiple centers to get medals.

If none of your entries are in I would think you should be able to send to another center.
Thanks, Fred.

It is possible to change your Judging Center designation, IF you have not already registered and/or paid for entries in the original Judging Center you chose when you created your account in the Online Registration system.  Please contact me directly about this issue, and I will deal with each situation separately.  Thanks.

Janis Gross,


General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC Competition submission
« on: March 10, 2011, 11:47:07 AM »
I have two cases of these hanging around, and the beer I want to enter is almost gone, and can't be re-bottled. I'll send it in anyway, and if it works, great; if it doesn't, I hope somebody drinks the beer as opposed to throwing it out. It's pretty good.
Hi Phil,

The bottle is slightly out of spec, but tell me to which Judging Center you are sending your entries, and I'll let the organizers know about the odd size.  Good luck in the competition!


General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC Competition submission
« on: March 09, 2011, 09:54:50 AM »
My apologies if this has been covered already, but if I want to enter the NHC competition, can I? I don't have a club (yet) nor am I anywhere near a 'regional' area. Where should I send my bottles, and how many should I send, etc? Pointing me to a link and telling me to RTFM is totally fine, btw.
Hi Phil,

Yes you can enter the NHC.  You don't need to be a member of a club.  You may choose any of the 9 Judging Centers for your entry.  You'll need to ship the entry by a private shipping company.  If you are entering from France, your entry will need to get through Customs.  The Canadian entrants to the Final Round also go through Customs, and they do not include the entry form or payment with the entries.  I'm not sure why.  

I have asked Harold Gulbransen for any words of advice he may have, since the San Diego Judging Center received foreign entries in previous years.

For all the details of the competition, RTFM should cover it.  Check the size of your bottles, as they may be slightly too big for the bottle requirements.  Good luck in the competition!


The Pub / Re: Babalu
« on: March 09, 2011, 09:22:42 AM »
Come on, Jeff!
You've got to get out of that place for your own good.  Keep working hard to get back home and put this whole thing behind you!  We're rooting for you; you can do it!

Wow, Janis.  I see you have five gold stars now.  You must be famous!

Hey Jeff,
Better famous than infamous.   ;)

I plugged this recipe into pro-mash and found that the IBU's is 51.5 not 25 as stated in the recipe.

Am I doing something wrong?

MaiBock Fix
Recipe by George Fix from Big Brew 2002
Extract with grain
Ingredients for 5 Gallons:
8.5 lbs Extra Light Dry Malt Extract
0.5 lbs CaraVienna Malt
2.00 oz Hallertauer Mittelfruh Hop Pellets, 4.5% AA, 60 min
0.75 oz Hallertau Hersbrucker Hop Pellets, 4.75% AA, 30 min
0.75 oz Hallertauer Mittelfruh Hop Pellets, 4.5% AA, 15 min
Wyeast 2633 (if you can't find 2633, 2124 Bohemian Lager is a good second choice)
OG: 1.070-1.074
FG: 1.016-1.018
IBU: 25
Hi Mario,

Remember this recipe is from before 2002, so the ingredients and process may account for some differences.  More importantly, with an extract recipe it is assumed that you are doing a partial boil, so the utilization of the hop oils is reduced.  In your ProMash file, change the wort size to 3 gallons.  This will drop the IBUs some, but not all the way to 25.  This recipe was taken directly from the Big Brew recipes on the Homebrewopedia; feel free to make whatever adjustments you feel are necessary when you brew the recipe.


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