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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: That German lager flavor
« on: May 30, 2013, 01:09:06 PM »


This time I'm using WLP830 German Lager Yeast which is the equivalent of  Wyeast's 2124 Bohemian Lager Yeast, but I also like to use WLP833 (lends a bit more maltiness) for my Helles as well.

I have had a couple years of great success using W-34/70 (dry) for all malty German styles: Helles, Maibock, Trad Bock, Schwarzbier, I've even used it on an Alt and a couple Oktobers....  it starts slowly, so I'll make a 1.050 Helles first, then use the cake from that for a Maibock and it goes off like a rocket.

It does work for Pilsners too.... but I find I am having to tweak water and hops to get them where I want them.

-red

I am planning on trying the 34/70 out on a Helles here soon. Why is it more troublesome for Pilsners for you?

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: That German lager flavor
« on: May 30, 2013, 06:10:20 AM »
Nice. Sounds like a great opportunity. I'd be super nervous about that, learning another language and another culture. Just a huge adjustment. Hopefully you'll be able to get homebrewing supplies when you need them.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: That German lager flavor
« on: May 28, 2013, 11:57:15 AM »
VERY jealous!

Dave

You should come visit! I'll probably have the tiniest shoebox apartment ever (well, probably not as bad as Tokyo), but you're welcome to a few feet of floor. I might even have a couch!
Moving there indefinitely or temporarily? Pretty lucky, dude.

I'd like to try the pilsner yeast, that's the WY2001, right? How is it in dunkels or schwarzbiers?

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: That German lager flavor
« on: May 28, 2013, 09:39:31 AM »
I have a Munich Helles that's been lagering on the yeast for a couple of weeks. I plan to keg it this weekend and start a German Pilsner with the yeast cake from the Helles.

Love them German Lagers!
What's your preferred yeast for those beers?

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: That German lager flavor
« on: May 28, 2013, 08:54:19 AM »
I think I may be upgrade my kegerator situation soon to a decent sized chest freezer so I can have space for 3 beers on tap and a few kegs lagering. I need to be brewing more lagers.
I had New Glarus Edel-Pils this weekend and MAN! is that good beer. It has the distinctive flavor I'm after. And speaking of New Glarus, I went to the brewery on Sunday. Felt like a pilgrimage, just a stellar experience.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: That German lager flavor
« on: May 24, 2013, 07:50:54 AM »
So jealous. I have a German Pilsner ale-style on tap right now that is pretty good. Not a lager, but resembles one. Any thoughts on Saflager 34/70? Is it basically the WY2124 strain in dry form?
I'm guessing Rahr pils malt is not a good choice for an authentic German lager, it doesn't seem to have that quality aboot it. While clean and tasty, it's missing something.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: That German lager flavor
« on: May 23, 2013, 06:21:30 PM »
Resurrection! I'm hitting the German lagers hard again. I just had a Weihenstephaner Pilsner and damn was that good! Anyone brewing any good lagers lately? Maybe it's oxidation or something, but whatever makes that beer smell and taste so good, I want it!

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Equipment and Software / Re: Those little red cans of Oxygen
« on: May 23, 2013, 09:29:13 AM »
I boil the stone part in a small pot, then spray the wand part with starsan before dropping it into the wort. Then pull it out, rinse it off, and stick it back into the boiling water for a few minutes. I turn it on before I put it into the wort and keep it running for a second after I pull it out of the wort to blow the stuff out. It's great, very simple to use.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Wrong?
« on: May 22, 2013, 04:03:04 PM »
No, he said Pilsner Urquell, which is a good beer on its own. To wreck it with clamato is sacrilegious.

While I agree with what Keith has to say, he did ask if it was wrong...

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Wrong?
« on: May 22, 2013, 01:18:40 PM »
Oh, dude...yeah, that's wrong. Pilsner Urquell is tasty on its own, why would you deface it like that? I had clamato once at a beer festival, the AB table was handing them out. I said what the hell. Opened it, took a drink and nearly puked. That sh*t really is foul.

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Kegging and Bottling / Re: SS Bottles
« on: May 22, 2013, 12:11:46 PM »
I would rather spend $50 on a 5 gallon bottle corny keg.
Can't get 'em for $50 anymore...

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Equipment and Software / Re: Those little red cans of Oxygen
« on: May 22, 2013, 09:16:54 AM »
The first beer I used the wand on was a hefe with that new Mangrove Jack's hefe yeast. It only attenuated to 1.016 from 1.050. I rehydrated the yeast and aerated for 30 seconds so the I could see just a little movement on the surface of the wort. Perhaps that yeast just isn't that high of an attenuator. I mashed at 150-152, I think. Oh well, it should still be good.

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Equipment and Software / Re: Those little red cans of Oxygen
« on: May 22, 2013, 08:05:38 AM »
Yeah, it's totally sweet and easy to use, even if it's not ultimately necessary. It works great for me fermenting in kegs.

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Equipment and Software / Re: Those little red cans of Oxygen
« on: May 21, 2013, 01:42:22 PM »
For me, dropping in a stone attached to an O2 tank for a minute is way less effort than shaking, pouring back-and-forth, getting out the whisk or hooking up the drill with a whip on it.  The O2 tank is a convenience thing for me.
It works especially well for me since I ferment in kegs now. I can stick the aeration wand in there, turn the gas on for a minute, then I'm good to go. With the mix-stir I had to take the liquid tube out when I wanted to aerate, so the blades didn't hit it, and put it back in. That was kind of annoying. Plus it splashed wort all over, making a mess. With a carboy it's fine, but anything with a wide opening, it gets messy.

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: dry yeast temp shock
« on: May 20, 2013, 09:13:11 AM »
Agreed, I think it probably doesn't matter.

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