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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Stouts - grain to glass
« on: December 30, 2013, 07:56:35 AM »
If your problems only occur with dark beer then it is unlikely to be an infection or mess somewhere in your kegging system. It should be showing up in all of your beers. Seems more likely to be a ph issue.


I sure hope so. I've got some things to work on. Seems like it all used to be so much simpler. The more you learn, the harder it gets, it seems.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Stouts - grain to glass
« on: December 30, 2013, 07:41:58 AM »
Could it be the carbonation level? I'm assuming since you're using a distributor, you are carbing your stouts and american ales all the same.
Possibly, but seems unlikely. I'm carbonating at 10 PSI at about 38F. So what's that, around 2.4 volumes?

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: BIAB Natural Bags?
« on: December 30, 2013, 06:51:44 AM »
A pillow case would be too fine. I've read about guys having terrible times when they've tried it. Get the voile!

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Beers planned for 2014
« on: December 30, 2013, 06:49:13 AM »
I don't plan to brew, but that's cool that you all are. You won't be too hung over to brew? I actually don't plan to go anywhere on new year's eve. Just don't care for the "holiday" and don't need to be out on the road with all the drunk drivers.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Stouts - grain to glass
« on: December 30, 2013, 06:46:36 AM »
I wish it were that simple, I guess. I just don't think this issue I'm having is a mouthfeel, more of a flavor I can't quite place. I'm disassembling my co2 system to see if I didn't miss something before. I hope I don't have to take my regulator apart to clean it, I don't know how to do that. I need a sanity check as I've considered going back to bottling.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: BIAB Natural Bags?
« on: December 29, 2013, 08:16:35 PM »
Know anyone who sews? Make your own out of voile. I have a voile bag that my mom made me that I used for the occasional brew in a bag and it works great.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Stouts - grain to glass
« on: December 29, 2013, 07:49:10 PM »
Thanks, Martin. From what a few are saying, sounds like I need to quit using the acid malt addition. I'll do that and add some baking soda or chalk for alkalinity.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Stouts - grain to glass
« on: December 29, 2013, 06:40:12 PM »
I do have an additional concern. In building the collar, which is attached to the lid now the freezer body, we found that we had measured something wrong. He had to take it back to his house to shave off the inside edges so it'd close all the way and the manifold was connected while he did that. He said wood dust likely could've gotten into the manifold. I tried rinsing it out, but I might have done it wrong, not knowing there were check valves in it. Meaning, I probably tried to run water through the wrong openings. Anyway, if there was wood dust in the manifold, is there any chance this could cause off flavors once the beer is fully carbonated, ie contaminated co2 going into the keg? Just a thought...

Anyway, so I'm covering that base and took apart my co2 system, up to the manifold, and am soaking it in PBW over night. I'll rinse it well and hang dry everything for a couple days tomorrow.

I can swear this current stout tasted fine going into the keg...I'm just racking my brain on this.

Thanks for listening and for your insights, guys.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Stouts - grain to glass
« on: December 29, 2013, 05:48:01 PM »


I'm wanting more of the roasted coffee sort of flavors. I feel like I'm getting more dark chocolate flavors, maybe. But it seems like that flavor is there no matter what roasted malts I'm using.

That recipe was for a 3.5 gallon batch, by the way.

How much % roasted barley or black patent are you using per batch?

It's listed in the original post. Usually enough roasted malt to get to around 35-40 SRM.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Stouts - grain to glass
« on: December 29, 2013, 02:00:48 PM »
Thanks, guys. I am not sure how to describe the flavor. It's not necessarily acrid, but it doesn't necessarily taste like infection or anything like that. A friend the other day said he thought it has a smoked meat sort of flavor, I don't get this flavor, more dark chocolate (which I'm not a fan of). I've noticed something like this flavor in the last couple dark beers I've brewed and they were clear.

Anyway, I do use RO water with Bru'n water, mash only base malts and add dark/crystal malts to the vorlauf. Maybe that's it, I don't know. Next one I brew, I'll mash it all together.

I'm wanting more of the roasted coffee sort of flavors. I feel like I'm getting more dark chocolate flavors, maybe. But it seems like that flavor is there no matter what roasted malts I'm using.

That recipe was for a 3.5 gallon batch, by the way.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Stouts - grain to glass
« on: December 29, 2013, 11:46:33 AM »
How long do you all give your stouts before you start drinking them?

I've been having issues with dark beers lately, not really sure what it is. But there's a flavor in them I'm just not liking much and having trouble getting the flavor I want that I get from commercial stouts and porters. At first, I thought maybe it was my gas lines again...I'm so traumatized from that, I suffer serious homebrewer doubt. But, I think that issue is resolved, no matter how much I try to point my finger at that, I think that there's just no way. All my other beers are great, IPAs, light lagers, ordinary bitter, weizenbock, etc. But the dark beers are tasting kinda weird. Not necessarily bad, just not right.

I've been using RO water with gypsum and calcium chloride to get to the 50-75ppm range for calcium, sulfate, and chloride. I use a little acid malt in the mash and reserve roasted grains for the vorlauf stage.

I feel like I'm doing everything right, except I might just be drinking the beers too young. I typically ferment for 2 weeks, sometimes 3, but not too often. Then keg and start drinking the beer within a week, pretty much as soon as it starts carbonating.

So, I guess it's been pretty much 3 to 4 weeks grain to glass. This is much too quick for dark beers, right? Or I may possibly have some other issue here...

Here's the recipe for my last batch:

Morning Times Stout
Brew Type: All Grain Date: 12/2/2013
OG: 1.062
FG: 1.016 (stopped at 1.024, added amylase enzyme)

Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.50 lb Pale Malt, Maris Otter (4.5 SRM) Grain 67.90 %
0.75 lb Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain 9.26 %
0.50 lb Barley, Flaked (1.7 SRM) Grain 6.17 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt 50-60L (55.0 SRM) Grain 6.17 %
0.46 lb Roasted Barley (300.0 SRM) Grain 5.68 %
0.39 lb Black (Patent) Malt (500.0 SRM) Grain 4.81 %
1.00 oz Perle [7.00 %] (60 min) Hops 34.1 IBU
0.50 oz Perle [7.00 %] (15 min) Hops 8.5 IBU
1 Pkgs Safale US-05 (Fermentis #US-56)
 
I thought it tasted fine before I kegged it, but once cold and carbonated it wasn't the same. But that's typical, I think. I can't tell it's an oatmeal stout. I know oats aren't suppose to really give you much flavor, but you can usually tell there's oats in a beer. The beer is really cloudy when held up to the light, you might say turbid. But I think I've had this issue with other beers when they were cleared.

Anyway, I appreciate any comments or concerns you may have. 

Cheers,

Jesse

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Equipment and Software / Re: Universal poppet valves
« on: December 26, 2013, 01:28:37 PM »
The universals I have are pretty tall, so on some of my kegs, it's tough to push the disconnect on. Trimming a coil or two off the spring is an easy fix.
This is exactly what I've read about them. How do you trim them? Dremel?

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: One of my favorite things on brewday.
« on: December 26, 2013, 10:11:22 AM »
I would say mashing in is my favorite part. I love the smell when you first add the grains, especially in dark beers. That might be the reason I brew. And the feeling of accomplishment after pitching the yeast and getting the fermentor in the fermentation fridge is really nice too. Or maybe it's that first beer after I get things cleaned up. Brewing is truly a great hobby.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Thought This Was Worth Sharing
« on: December 24, 2013, 10:53:40 AM »
Yeah, that's pretty awesome. I wish I had that many good friends.

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Equipment and Software / Re: Universal poppet valves
« on: December 24, 2013, 08:46:41 AM »
I've read that the universal poppits are just a little bit too long for most kegs; they apparently restrict the flow on the liquid side. Some guys cut them down to fit. I don't have first hand experience with them, so I can't say for sure what's causing it. But if they work now, then that's good, right?

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