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All Things Food / Re: Foie Gras in California
« on: June 29, 2012, 03:05:17 PM »
The only truly ethical diet is to only eat fallen fruit. I don't see how raising and killing living organisms, whether plant or animal, is ethical. The difference between a cattle feedlot, an industrial chicken coop, and Foie Gras is splitting hairs, IMO.

I have no problem killing and eating animals, but I don't think it's the "right" thing to do. I think it's neutral at best, or acceptably malevolent at worst.

Believe me when I say I'm a dedicated omnivore.  When you spend 18+ years on a livestock farm you become pretty immune to doing tasks which some people see as "wrong".  I guess my only point is that animals are not the unthinking, stupid things with no feelings that some in this world think they are.  We never did things to animals "just 'cuz" and I don't think that is what farmers who raise geese for Foie Gras do either.  We did what was needed to keep our (and your) food healthy and did our best to make as non-painful as we could.  I just don't think I could have force fed a bird like that. Others can and people appreciate it.  I'm not judging, just admitting my limits.


The Pub / Re: song title game
« on: June 29, 2012, 02:12:03 PM »
Life Is My Money And I Want My Money Back - Meat Loaf

All Things Food / Re: Foie Gras in California
« on: June 29, 2012, 12:57:29 PM »
I will admit that I struggle with this particular dish. 

I grew up on a farm and I can't imagine doing to an animal what is done to these birds to make the livers for Foie Gras.  That being said, I never really enjoyed trimming (being polite here) and docking pigs/sheep/cattle either but it had to be done.  De-horning was nasty job too but I helped with it also. 

I don't believe you should be able to make a food product illegal just because you disagree with how it's raised.  If it causes disease then fine but it just makes you sad then buck up and deal.

Sorry.  I'll step off my soapbox and walk away now.


The Pub / Re: song title game
« on: June 29, 2012, 09:22:04 AM »
Song of the South - Alabama

The Pub / Re: song title game
« on: June 29, 2012, 07:39:31 AM »
The Goat Song - Adam Sandler

The Pub / Re: song title game
« on: June 29, 2012, 04:54:02 AM »
One Toke Over the Line - Brewer and Shipley

Equipment and Software / Re: What pH meter do you use?
« on: June 28, 2012, 01:10:07 PM »
I have this one.

My wife gave it to me for Christmas.  It looks great in the box but I haven't used it yet.


The Pub / Re: Any car stereo afficianados here?
« on: June 28, 2012, 01:07:11 PM »
A home system doesn't do me any good when spending 6 hours on the highway.

Unless you are Steven Wright and take your house for a drive.   ;D

I loved that guy's routine.

Sorry, back to your normal thread programming.


Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Yeast suspension on green beer
« on: June 28, 2012, 01:04:53 PM »
My current hydrometer has always read 3 points high.  I'd definitely calibrate with distilled water and see where it is at.


The Pub / Re: Old style clone!!!!
« on: June 28, 2012, 01:00:43 PM »
That was an interesting article in my house.  My wife got her Masters in Ed. from Vertubo Univ. in La Cross.  She spent a week there right after the brewery reopened.  She said that every place in town going gaga over the new beers they were making.  I laugh now because she kept talking about how bad most of them tasted.  Of course, I had already converted her to homebrew.  8^)

It was nice to learn the history of the place all these years later.  I used to love Old Style back in college.


The Pub / Re: song title game
« on: June 28, 2012, 11:09:38 AM »
Hello, I Love You  - Doors

The Pub / Re: song title game
« on: June 27, 2012, 03:13:08 PM »
Knockin' on Heaven's Door - Guns n' Roses

Technically Bob Dylan, covered by Guns N' Roses :P

Ya, I know but I was never much a fan of Dylan. 

Goodbye Yellow Brick Road - Elton John

All Things Food / Re: Pork Tenderloins
« on: June 27, 2012, 02:14:21 PM »
1) Marinade for 12 to 24 hours.  Wrap up tight in aluminum foil and cook low ans slow until up to temp.

2) Smoke for a couple of hours then wrap and go slow until up to temp.

You have to be careful to not dry them out.  They are typically very lean so you don't have much moisture to work with.


The Pub / Re: song title game
« on: June 27, 2012, 02:10:42 PM »
Knockin' on Heaven's Door - Guns n' Roses

The Pub / Re: song title game
« on: June 27, 2012, 09:37:51 AM »
Too Much Time On My Hands - Styx

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