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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Stone Levitation Clone Brew Day
« on: April 05, 2015, 01:09:08 PM »
Well, you brew in the corner of the room so what about Cornerstone Brewing...

First, a link to the current NJ Licensing Laws

Relevant parts:

The holder of this license shall be entitled to sell this product at retail to consumers on the licensed premises of the brewery for consumption on the premises, but only in connection with a tour of the brewery, or for consumption off the premises in a quantity of not more than 15.5 fluid gallons per person, and to offer samples for sampling purposes only pursuant to an annual permit issued by the director.


For the purposes of this subsection, "sampling" means the selling at a nominal charge or the gratuitous offering of an open container not exceeding four ounces of any malt alcoholic beverage. For the purposes of this subsection, "product" means any malt alcoholic beverage that is produced on the premises licensed under this subsection.

In a nutshell, here in the lovely state of Nazi Jersey New Jersey, you cannot have a Tap Room at your brewery where customers can walk in, sit down at the bar and order a beer unless they take a tour first. As everyone who has thought of the idea of opening a brewery has figured out, retail pint sales are where the real money is made.

So for the last few months I've been trying to find out the exact technical meaning of the word "Tour". No one at the local or state level can tell me what a "Tour" is. So if that's the case, I am now taking it upon myself to define it as such:

Brewery Tour: Show them how the brewery works.

So in my current dream-state, this means any info about how the brewery works is part of the tour. Here is where my crazy, loophole-ridden psyche takes over.

What if you put a LCD TV on a stand where your customers walk in that plays a video loop of the brewing process? Is that a tour? Why yes, yes it is.

What if you were walked to the Tap Room by a guide that explains the process by pointing to pictures of the brewing process that are hanging on the wall that leads to the Tap Room? Is that a tour? Why yes, yes it is.

I've come up with about 20 of these loopholes and since there is no concrete definition of what a tour is or what it has to entail, we're free to interpret it as we see fit until they come and take me to jail, right?

Denny, you have the Conn, Kirk out. <<--see what i did there!?



absolutely amazing, nice work!

The Pub / Re: Bob's burgers
« on: January 28, 2015, 05:49:28 PM »
This season on Shameless the father builds a homebrew setup in his basement made from keggles and all kinds of tubes and other stuff to make it look complicated. They have pumps setup that constantly move liquids around through the tubes, its kinda funny.

There's no mention of fermentation or anything, he just throws the ingredients into the contraption, including bacon and maple syrup, and then fills mason jars with the beer he names "Nectar of the gods"

The Pub / Re: Best Album of All Time
« on: December 27, 2014, 12:18:16 PM »
"In the Evening" was great and " Fool in the Rain" is good. Some of Plant's better solo stuff had a similar ethereal quality.

fool in the rain is my fave zep tune, so much fun to play on the drums too

Kegging and Bottling / Re: Rubber coated black tactical beer bottle project
« on: December 24, 2014, 11:09:15 PM »
oh man you beat me to it! They look badass, nice work!

I thought of this a few weeks back and couldn't find the time to actually do it. I also flirted with applying vinyl wrap but its a bit harder to install.

I'd love to see what the bottles would look like using the metalizers

I find I'm most creative after my 2nd cup of coffee. Drinking alcohol destroys my creativity. But I become a God on a Foosball table at about that blood alcohol level. ;)

I literally drink coffee from the time i wake up until I go to bed so I'm totally immune to it, but once 2-3am rolls around my creativity goes into overdrive. I also have a craving for Guinness around 4am for some reason.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: What is it with mass produce beer...
« on: December 24, 2014, 12:16:24 PM »
Red Stripe is the only beer that gives me a headache within minutes of having one. I've always assumed I must be either allergic to the yeast or there are just enough bi-products or fusels to trigger a response.

Pimp My System / Re: Finally!
« on: December 19, 2014, 03:57:50 PM »
very nice, good luck with it!

The Pub / Re: Founders Sells Minority Stake
« on: December 17, 2014, 12:38:30 PM »
Founder's is my favorite brewery and their All-day IPA is my goto. As long as it doesn't affect the quality or taste of their beer its pretty much a moot point for me.

I see this as totally different from the 10 Barrel topic and it doesn't bother me at all.

So, what happens when InBev acquires San Miguel? Is Founder's still your favorite brewery?

The bigger breweries get, the more mergers are going to happen, the more breweries InBev is going to acquire.

In this case, they'll still only own 30%, so I guess my answer would be yes, not because of who the investors are but because they make my favorite products. If the product quality stays the same, the investors could be nazi war criminals and it wouldn't bother me.

What does bother me about mergers and acquisitions like 10 Barrel is when the new company takes over and changes everything just for the sake of "making it their own."

There have been way too many instances where a huge company like in-bev has purchased a brewery, then shutdown the business, fired all the employees, sold off the equipment and real estate and just slapped the acquired brand on some mass-market product that has nothing to do with the original.

edit: spelling, added a word

The Pub / Re: Founders Sells Minority Stake
« on: December 17, 2014, 11:00:22 AM »
I like it.  Pay back those relatives and in-laws who have helped get you started/kept you afloat with some retirement funds, open some distribution channels, and still keep the majority of the business and make beer the way you want to.

Absolutely, totally agree.

The Pub / Re: Founders Sells Minority Stake
« on: December 17, 2014, 10:59:46 AM »
Founder's is my favorite brewery and their All-day IPA is my goto. As long as it doesn't affect the quality or taste of their beer its pretty much a moot point for me.

I see this as totally different from the 10 Barrel topic and it doesn't bother me at all.

The Pub / Re: Epic Rant about 10 Barrel & AB/InBev
« on: December 17, 2014, 10:52:46 AM »
Wow, that article is indeed a rant, and while there is a small part of me that agrees with him, the reality is that in their place I would probably do the same thing. Of course, that quick infusion of cash would go right into another brewery.

Unfortunately it doesn't work like that, they would make you sign a non-compete barring you from opening another commercial brewery. You could build a kick ass homebrewery though. ;)

Yeah there's no way I would sign something like that, but if I had to, I guess my best friend that lives next door would have to open one, or my wife, or my brother/sister, or mother/father, etc etc. As with anything I'm sure there's 10 ways around it. ;)

I'll have to look up how those laws work in jersey, its an interesting topic.

The Pub / Re: Epic Rant about 10 Barrel & AB/InBev
« on: December 16, 2014, 11:10:48 PM »
Tour Guide: "no we are still 10 barrel brewery, but we make 15 barrels"


Its like opening up a business named "1 oven bakery" or "3 table restaurant" or "2 truck delivery service"

Ah...  Tony you're too in the know.  Most people would read this as a quaint, literal 10 barrels.  Like a tailor shop named Four Buttons.  It's figurative, poetic language.  You are supposed to picture 10 wooden stave barrels on a loading dock full of beer destined for the local pub down the lane a league or so.

I say this because this is the conversation in my head whenever I see 10 Barrel Brewing.  (yes, I have my own private OCD purgatory)

yeah, I know, but it still drives me crazy! :)

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