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The Pub / Re: Bucket List
« on: May 27, 2011, 01:24:27 PM »
I want to learn how to play the guitar. Before I die.

Drums for me.  I want to channel John Bonham.

I taught myself how to play the drums by going out and buying a kit. A local music shop was going out of business because of some IRS problems and everything was dirt cheap. I got an excellent drum kit for like $250. It barely fit in my car.

I went home, set it up and put on some AC/DC. When i could play every song from Back in Black, I moved to Billy Squier, The Police, Zeppelin, then right to Yes and Rush. About a year later my neighbor was home from college and heard me playing Rush and came over to ask me where I studied and was dumbfounded that i was self-taught. He had been playing drums since he was 10 yrs old and went to school for it in NYC. (He currently owns a Drum School) Always thought that was a great compliment.

I still can't read a single note of drum sheet music but i can play anything i hear.

Just do it!

Tony

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The Pub / Re: Seismologists tried for manslaughter over quake
« on: May 27, 2011, 01:14:24 PM »
absolutely ridiculous, are the weathermen from the US south gonna get charged for the tornados?

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The Pub / Re: Bucket List
« on: May 27, 2011, 11:20:08 AM »
I want to learn how to play the guitar. Before I die.

I play the sax and drums and always wanted to learn the guitar also, I was thinking of getting one of these:

McNally Strumstick

small, pretty cheap and from the videos it looks easy to learn.

Oh and my bucket list item, I want to drink a Guinness in ireland.

Tony

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I don't like the black ones. They need some color. I like #21.

a good graphic designer designs his logo to look good n black and white first. Color can always be added. The focus should be on design first. I do agree that a good logo color palette is essential, but logos are very often printed in black and white and if the rely too heavily on color the.y don't often convert well.

I've seen very few beer bottles with monochrome labels.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1680&bih=925&q=beer%20bottle%20labels&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi

majorvices is absolutely 100% correct. ALL logos are designed in b/w first because inevitably you will need to use it as a cutout, a splash, a die or in applications where color is cost-prohibitive or just plain unusable.

You may not have seen many beer labels printed in b/w, for good reason, they want their product to stand out on the shelves, but conversely you don't see alot of full color logos printed on giveaway items, glasses, t-shirts, etc. because full-color printing costs a lot of money.

Tony




 Not arguing with your cost logic, but I sure see a lot more multi-color t-shirts here.

http://www.google.com/search?um=1&hl=en&biw=1680&bih=925&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=beer+logo+t-shirts&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq= 

and if you look closely, 90% of those are 1 color. which means they gave the printer a b/w logo. :)

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I don't like the black ones. They need some color. I like #21.

a good graphic designer designs his logo to look good n black and white first. Color can always be added. The focus should be on design first. I do agree that a good logo color palette is essential, but logos are very often printed in black and white and if the rely too heavily on color the.y don't often convert well.

I've seen very few beer bottles with monochrome labels.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1680&bih=925&q=beer%20bottle%20labels&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi

majorvices is absolutely 100% correct. ALL logos are designed in b/w first because inevitably you will need to use it as a cutout, a splash, a die or in applications where color is cost-prohibitive or just plain unusable.

You may not have seen many beer labels printed in b/w, for good reason, they want their product to stand out on the shelves, but conversely you don't see alot of full color logos printed on giveaway items, glasses, t-shirts, etc. because full-color printing costs a lot of money.

Tony



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If I had to choose one of those I'd go with #29 with minor changes.

First the good stuff:

1) I LOVE the swash thru the BR in the center, wonderful idea. As a designer, little moments like this that happen when designing make everything worth it. I really hope that swash will be color to make it stand out.

2) The river looks great, I would love to see that in shades of blue in the color version

3) Typefaces are well-chosen, bold, solid slab serifs are excellent for this application.

Here are some thoughts on changes:

1) They need to fix the tracking of the space between Black and River, when the tracking of the type is that wide the space needs to be doubled to be effective as a separator, to me it looks like a single word.

2) The barley stalks are too subdued and at small sizes they will disappear and be totally unrecognizable. They also look weird being so straight when everything else in the design is curved.

3) Since the main type is tracked, the sub-text doesn't fit into the flow of the eye path. The first thing you see is the BR, then...you're left with a choice. Dialing back the tracking on the sub-text (brewery) would cause the flow to change from the BR to Black River to the brewery, which is the story you want to tell.

Think of it like this:

BR, hey what's BR mean? oh Black River! What's Black River? oh its a brewery! pour me a pint!

They could also change it to small caps which would shorten the baseline height with the added benefit of centering the inner grey circle with the text.

Overall I like it and you can tell the designer put some thought and care into the design. A few of the others seem like strawmen to me. This is the one they want you to buy, and for good reason.

Please take my opinions with a grain of salt, each designer has his/her own reasons for making decisions and some aren't readily apparent until you talk to them about it.

I hope this was helpful! Good luck!
Tony

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The Pub / Re: The Walking Dead
« on: May 27, 2011, 09:28:25 AM »
Like Phil I've been collecting and reading the comics since day 1 and its one of the best series out there. I highly recommend picking up the graphic novels, besides the amazing artwork the writing is just incredibly well done. The biggest problem is reading just one, then the monthly wait begins again@#$!

Even Simon Pegg reads it!



Full Size Image Here

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Selling.....maybe?
« on: May 22, 2011, 07:56:30 PM »
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win. – Sun Tzu

words to live by!

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Triple batch day!
« on: May 21, 2011, 09:47:07 AM »
I'm half way thru my triple batch day. Batch 1 is chilling, 15 gallons of bitter. Batch 2 is boiling, 5 gallons of porter. Batch 3 will be 10 gallons of American Brown. Things are going very well!

Now thats a rapture I can believe it! nice work!

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The Pub / Re: Ain't technology grand?
« on: May 20, 2011, 04:17:50 PM »
Cool, but I think I'll stick with my black & tan.

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The Pub / Re: New ride!
« on: May 20, 2011, 04:16:55 PM »
And, it will be a lot better than the 1 ton, 454 I was looking at!  ;D

haha no doubt!

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The Pub / Re: New ride!
« on: May 20, 2011, 01:52:53 PM »
wow man you better prepare your wallet for the difference in gas prices!

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The Pub / Re: Design Student - Redesign of Stone Packaging
« on: May 20, 2011, 01:33:21 PM »
Beer label art from the master:

  http://www.randymosherdesign.com/

a lot of nice designs but man that website is horrendous :(

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The Pub / White Labs Yeast Label Redesign
« on: May 19, 2011, 09:28:33 PM »
Inspired by Drew's post about the Stone label reinterpretation, I had an idea to do the same for White Labs. I only spent about 15 minutes on it, but I kind of like it. The stark contrast would make the label easily readable and recognizable from a distance in comparison to the current one and I was thinking that maybe the background could be color-coded depending on yeast type (ale, lager, wine, etc).

I didn't take the time to do the rear side of the label but I figured that would have a lot more detailed info and history text, bar codes, etc.



For some reason this forum doesn't like full size images and arbitrarily scales them so it looks really crappy here so I've included a link to the original size:

White Labs Label Redesign

Maybe I'll send it to Chris!

Tony

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The Pub / Re: Design Student - Redesign of Stone Packaging
« on: May 19, 2011, 07:06:41 PM »
If you like package design this is one my favorite sites

http://lovelypackage.com/

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