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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Selling.....maybe?
« on: May 22, 2011, 07:56:30 PM »
Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win. – Sun Tzu

words to live by!

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Triple batch day!
« on: May 21, 2011, 09:47:07 AM »
I'm half way thru my triple batch day. Batch 1 is chilling, 15 gallons of bitter. Batch 2 is boiling, 5 gallons of porter. Batch 3 will be 10 gallons of American Brown. Things are going very well!

Now thats a rapture I can believe it! nice work!

The Pub / Re: Ain't technology grand?
« on: May 20, 2011, 04:17:50 PM »
Cool, but I think I'll stick with my black & tan.


The Pub / Re: New ride!
« on: May 20, 2011, 04:16:55 PM »
And, it will be a lot better than the 1 ton, 454 I was looking at!  ;D

haha no doubt!

The Pub / Re: New ride!
« on: May 20, 2011, 01:52:53 PM »
wow man you better prepare your wallet for the difference in gas prices!

The Pub / Re: Design Student - Redesign of Stone Packaging
« on: May 20, 2011, 01:33:21 PM »
Beer label art from the master:

a lot of nice designs but man that website is horrendous :(

The Pub / White Labs Yeast Label Redesign
« on: May 19, 2011, 09:28:33 PM »
Inspired by Drew's post about the Stone label reinterpretation, I had an idea to do the same for White Labs. I only spent about 15 minutes on it, but I kind of like it. The stark contrast would make the label easily readable and recognizable from a distance in comparison to the current one and I was thinking that maybe the background could be color-coded depending on yeast type (ale, lager, wine, etc).

I didn't take the time to do the rear side of the label but I figured that would have a lot more detailed info and history text, bar codes, etc.

For some reason this forum doesn't like full size images and arbitrarily scales them so it looks really crappy here so I've included a link to the original size:

White Labs Label Redesign

Maybe I'll send it to Chris!


The Pub / Re: Design Student - Redesign of Stone Packaging
« on: May 19, 2011, 07:06:41 PM »
If you like package design this is one my favorite sites

The Pub / Re: Formula 1
« on: May 19, 2011, 12:58:31 PM »
I wish speed would replay the race in the day time. I have to get up really early to watch most of the races.

check out the BBCs website, they have an online streaming video site, there of course other means of getting the race videos...

The Pub / Re: Formula 1
« on: May 19, 2011, 11:55:47 AM »
Not to derail my own thread but, speaking of drag racing check this out:

a 9 sec electric vw beetle

so awesome

The Pub / Formula 1
« on: May 19, 2011, 11:22:26 AM »
Any F1 fans here?

I was a big fan when I was kid, and have gotten back into it over the past few years. This year has been the most exciting that I can remember with the new tire compounds, KERS and DRS.

Its such a shame the coverage in the US is such complete s***. But thanks to the internet, watching the BBC's F1 coverage makes me so jealous of people living in Europe, its absolutely the best sports coverage in the world. Martin Brundle, David Coulthard, the hilarious Eddie Jordan, Jake Humphrey, Crofty, Anthony Davidson, the list of excellent personalities seems to go on forever.

Everything about the BBC's show is great, and the banter and jabbing that goes on between the announcers is hilarious. Its so enjoyable that I watch everything from friday practice to the race on sunday.

I mostly cheer for Ferrari (Massa/Alonso), Team Lotus, McLaren and any team that Rubens Barrichello is a part of (he did beat the Stig afterall).

 I know there aren't alot of F1 fans in the US but I love it. Anyone else?


Pimp My System / Re: My HERMS Cart
« on: May 18, 2011, 09:18:30 PM »
very cool, love the diamond plate!

The Pub / Re: i love cartoons!!
« on: May 18, 2011, 09:11:30 PM »
Some of the other ones i remember from being a kid of the 80s:

Tranzor Z
Speed Racer
Hong Kong Fooey
Magilla Gorilla
Catch the Pigeon (Dick Dastardly and Mutley)
Grape Ape
Courageous Cat and Minute Mouse
Captain Caveman
Danger Mouse
Josie and the Pussycats
Pink Panther
Thundarr the barbarian

All Grain Brewing / Re: Electric stove-top: how far can you go?
« on: May 18, 2011, 12:59:21 PM »
I did a few full boil 5gal batches on an old electric stove, it took over an hour to get the water to boil initially and had to have it full blast to keep it at a roll but it did work. I'd hate to see how much electricity i actually used.

The Pub / Re: Brewery Logo Design
« on: May 18, 2011, 12:21:23 PM »
Love it but . . .

I think it may lack some practicality.  The Old English looks great but will transfer poorly into smaller fonts.  Parts of the logo are outside the bounds of the graphic.  This make printing onto a tap handle more difficult, and making a mold for a specialty tap handle a pita.

Love the work
Great Potential

I think the word you're looking for is Blackletter, but the typeface doesn't really fit into that category either its more of a Monogram, but I understand your concerns at smaller sizes which is why if you notice, the inside of the glyphs are highly contrasted with lighter colors surrounded by darker/starker colors of the outline and solid drop shadow. This limits eye motion and centers attention to the solid inner detail  which actually makes it even MORE legible at smaller sizes as the edges will "disappear" as they get smaller with the added benefit of making the lighter colors stand out. Try to say that without taking a breathe!

As for the breakouts, its a design decision that focuses attention and guides the eye to specific places in the order you wish them to be seen, if that makes sense. Try this: Close your eyes and then open them really fast, whats the first thing you see on the logo? Whats the second? In my experience the eye is drawn initially to the large typeface not only because of its size and color scheme but because of how it breaks the boundary of the overall shape. Secondly my eyes go to the gun, another breakout.

If you look at the shape of the placard in the background and extend that out a half of an inch all the way around, that would be a good simple shape for the tap handle. Atleast that's what i had in mind when I first thought of it. Of course, you could go nuts with it and make the tap handle in the shape of the gun itself, but man that would be a ton of cash!

Thanks for the critique, without constructive feedback designers wouldn't learn and never get any better.


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