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The Pub / Re: DC 101 Bar Madness 2011 brackets
« on: March 19, 2011, 08:49:55 PM »
Dogfish Head is on the list. I'm assuming that the Rehoboth Beach, Delaware brewpub. So, "DC area" may take in some real estate.ß

The Pub / DC 101 Bar Madness 2011 brackets
« on: March 19, 2011, 06:44:08 PM »
Anyone from the DC area?

DC 101 has its 2011 Bar Madness brackets out. I don't know the rules but it looks like you vote for your favorite (Washington DC) bar in each matchup.

All Grain Brewing / Re: Water loss to absorbtion and evaporation.
« on: March 19, 2011, 01:00:31 AM »
Absorption - According to Denny's write up of "Cheap 'n' Easy Batch Sparge Brewing" ( found at ) water absorbed by grain is around .1 gal./lb.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Dry Hop - where?
« on: March 18, 2011, 03:58:41 PM »
Bader Beer & Wine Supply ( recommends dry hopping their Citra IPA on day 4 in the primary and racking "to secondary approximately day 10 to 14." I tried it and liked the result. Your mileage may vary.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Caveman Brewing
« on: March 17, 2011, 11:21:58 PM »
I vaguely remember reading something about 'rule of thumb' originating with brewers as a means of quesstimating temperature before thermometers.

On the Brew Masters show, Sam Calagione says "Rule of Thumb" came from the brewers using their thumbs to test temperatures. I don't quite buy it, but it's okay as an explanation.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Caveman Brewing
« on: March 17, 2011, 08:48:31 PM »
I predict in the end you'll get beer.

It's really a shame that we or any homebrew or beer club has the need to hire a legal team to protect itself and it's individual participants from a law suit, I've had a couple beers to relax tonight (so forgive me if you cannot easily follow)  and even reading the above post just wears me out, I'm sure I would have a headache if I were ever involved in such litigation. I guess what I'm saying is folks in our country/community's need to quit looking to blame the other human. I say that participation alone in any event should wave litigation, it's your choice, live with it.

I mostly agree (how could I not with another named Norm--the standard?). Yet, we (the jurors, that is, those people who represent us) reward the plaintiffs, perhaps out of pity. In a previous life I worked for the government (aka Deep Pockets). During my time, a newlywed couple hiked up to Morro Rock in Sequoia Nat'l Park during a lightning storm (hiking to a high place in a lightning storm is unwise to begin with) and held the metal hand rail. Lightning struck the metal handrail and killed one of the couple. The surviving spouse sued the Park Service for negligence for not having warning signs saying you shouldn't hold metal in a lightning storm...and won. I feel for the survivor. But, some knowledge of physics should be taken for granted.

Homebrew Clubs / Re: Restarted Recipe Archive
« on: March 16, 2011, 10:28:12 PM »
Very, very nice, Drew. Kudos for having the ProMash files available for download.

I like the ability to pick by style. The "Recipe (sic) by category" was not as useful to me, since this seems to be more a listing of events.

On the whole (and all things being equal), it's a home run. Thanks!

I love going to Triple Rock. Their Ipax IPA is my favorite brew.  If it weren't a three-hour drive, I might never get any work done.

Beer Recipes / Importing xml files into BeerAlchemy
« on: March 12, 2011, 01:28:34 AM »
I have a Mac and don't want to load another operating system on it so I went with BeerAlchemy for my recipes and calculations. Being a newbie, I'm reasonably happy with the results. However, I don't seem to be able to import xml files.

I checked BeerAlchemy's support ( and they say, "Some brewing software sometimes produces BeerXML files that don't conform to the published BeerXML format. Currently BeerAlchemy Touch will not import these files. Please let us know if this causes you problems as we could look into potential workarounds."

Maybe no one uses "BeerXML" format because every website I've been to and saved a recipe to import has not worked.

Other than entering the recipes by hand I've not come up with a workaround. Anyone else use BeerAlchemy and have a workaround or want to share the .bar files they files they have?

Beer Recipes / Re: Pliny the Elder's IBUs -- Calc v Actual
« on: March 11, 2011, 07:01:48 PM »
There is a limit to the solubility of isomerized alpha acids, and the limit is affected by wort gravity.  The yeast will also pull some out when it sediments.  The formulas are fine up to a point, and above that they're just wrong. 

If the upper limit is ~ 90-105, then why add more hops than what a 90-105 calculation might give you? What's the payoff in adding more hops? (Don't get me wrong. I love hops. I want a hop flavored cologne.) Is it analogous to adding sugar in iced tea, where the saturation limit is reached and the additional sugar just ends up at the bottom of the glass or is there more flavor and aroma?

Beer Recipes / Re: Pliny the Elder's IBUs -- Calc v Actual
« on: March 10, 2011, 05:35:35 PM »
Thanks. I'm new to all the calculations and their limitations and when I head to some of the books I get into the weeds pretty quick.

Beer Recipes / Pliny the Elder's IBUs -- Calc v Actual
« on: March 10, 2011, 04:40:39 PM »
The Jul/Aug 2010 issue of Zymurgy lists the hop bill below in the Pliny the Elder recipe. Beer Alchemy calculates the IBUs in PtL at 236. The recipe says the actual (not calculated) IBUs for PtL are 90-95. Why the vast difference between calculated and actual?

3.50 oz Columbus 13.90% A.A. 90 min.
.75 oz Columbus 13.90% A.A. 45 min.
1.00 oz Simcoe 12.30% A.A. 30 min.
1.00 oz Columbus 8.00% A.A. 0 min.
2.50 oz Simcoe 12.30% A.A. 0 min.
1.00 oz Columbus 13.90% A.A. Dry Hop (12 to 14 Days Total)
1.00 oz Centennial 9.10% A.A. Dry Hop (12 to 14 Days Total)
1.00 oz Simcoe 12.30% A.A. Dry Hop (12 to 14 Days Total)
.25 oz Columbus13.90% A.A. Dry Hop (5 days to go in dry hop)
.25 oz Centennial 9.10% A.A. Dry Hop (5 days to go in dry hop)
.25 oz Simcoe 12.30% A.A. Dry Hop (5 days to go in dry hop)

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