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Equipment and Software / Re: Kegerator
« on: April 01, 2011, 04:53:13 PM »
Ah...... fatigue is an issue sometimes. Actually.... since October, so 6 months 100 gallons, at a cost of about $3/G, so $300, x2= $600 a year..... compared to close to 10K for commercial beer.... I'll take it.

My records have me about $4.50/galllon for the last several years (ranging between $3.80 and $6.50 per gallon per batch) $3/gallon is pretty good.  I am all over the place, neither too light, nor too IPA's of any kind, no imperials, mostly all grain 5-6% ABV with the occasional 8% christmas beer.


Equipment and Software / Re: Kegerator
« on: March 28, 2011, 07:58:41 PM »
Quote from: denny on Today at 12:24:35 PM
Quote from: oscarvan on Today at 12:19:49 PM
Craigslist fridge with room for 6 and hops freezer below..... $50

Cost to run it for a year....$3000. 

Funny. At 45º it doesn't run that often this time of year. It's on the cold end of the house, my office is right next to it and I can hear it when it runs..... summer the "mudroom" as the pantry is known will get toastier...

Irony is lost.....The cost to run includes the beer to be consumed....hence the $3,000.

Keep in mind this was my first keg ever, but I found that carbing at a pressure 12psi worked fine.
After a while I took it down to around 8-9 psi for a serving pressure and that worked fine.

The 8-9 psi is a function of your 6' beer line.  The problem is, though, that your carbonation level drops from your 12 psi to your serving pressure over time (as you serve beer).  That is why we are talking about a "balanced" system....where the length of beer line from the keg to the faucet equals the pressure in the beer and keg.  Too long a hose and the flow of the beer to your glass is too slow, too short and you get more foam than beer in your glass as the co2 rushes to escape.  Temperature also plays a part.  So, if you are serving at 40 degrees at 8-9 psi, you have 2.1-2.2 volumes of co2, where you were at 2.5 volumes at 12 psi...if you want 2.5v, then lengthen your hose a foot or two....if you are good at 2.1v, just set your regulator at 8-9 psi to carb and leave it for a week, and leave to serve.

Kegging and Bottling / Re: Futzing around with gas lines....
« on: March 25, 2011, 07:54:34 PM »
I just futzed over the weekend.....added quick disconnect and additional check valve.

Kegging and Bottling / Re: Futzing around with gas lines....
« on: March 25, 2011, 05:53:34 PM »
in a word, don't have to off gas....unless "need" to....but never around the beermistress

Kegging and Bottling / Re: seeking CO2 set up advice
« on: March 24, 2011, 09:16:42 PM »
if money is no object, buy another tank, but otherwise, 4 on tap isn't so bad.  I have a 7cf with a collar and can fit 3 cornys and a 5 gallon sanke (which is slightly bigger) with room to spare, but not enough for 5.  I don't own 5 cornys to test if I would have enough room for them without the sanke 1/6th barrel.  My collar isn't wide enough for the 5th keg on the hump.  My tank is 20# so, it doesn't even fit on the hump, so I drilled through the collar.

good luck.

Kegging and Bottling / Re: How Long Will It Last?
« on: March 23, 2011, 05:50:28 AM »
the only thing I can think of is that as you drink it down the surface to volume changes in the fluctuation in carbonation is does change over time, too.  Also, if you disconnect your serving hose and make sure it stays clean....I would personally go for it.  You have to taste it to make sure it is good enough for competition, right?

Kegging and Bottling / Re: air compressor fittings/hose for co2
« on: March 22, 2011, 06:44:15 PM »
I am using a quick disconnect, and that is the part I am watching for a leak.  My guess is that after a lot of use, it will start to leak....but, with teflon tape all connections seem to be holding.

Thanks for the input Oscar.


Equipment and Software / Re: Building a garage brewery
« on: March 18, 2011, 10:55:14 PM »
I hope you are not having girls.....they are tons of fun, but I am even more marginalized as the only dude in the house.  A real argument for man space out in the just won't get out there for a while.

Grinding off your own top is just takes time (depending on the equipment you have).  I bought a air compressor and grinder cheap from craigslist....but cheap meant it didn't have the capacity to do the job.  It took me over a hour of grinding to get a top off, but I use the compressor for so many different things (bicycle tires for kids...hint hint...if you make it about the kids, it is easier to get it past spouse), including cleaning my grain mill....well worth the purchase and the time.

good luck.  Post pictures and let us know about your experience of both your build as well as your brewing schedule with newborn twins (or not).

Kegging and Bottling / Re: air compressor fittings/hose for co2
« on: March 16, 2011, 09:54:24 PM »
Yeah, I thought of that, but my compressor is not one of those, and the fittings I have sitting are either never used, or lightly used (like once).

Thanks Tom.
ps, you and I are neighbors (so to speak).

Kegging and Bottling / air compressor fittings/hose for co2
« on: March 16, 2011, 08:59:03 PM »
Is there any reason I can not use fittings and hose from an air compressor for my CO2?  I have quick disconnects, fittings and hoses rated to 300 psi sitting around collecting dust....and the threads fit my co2 regulator and my gas manifold too....

Is there any compelling (or dangerous) reason not to?

The Pub / Re: Japan quake
« on: March 15, 2011, 10:49:21 PM »
the problem with that 1. we like cheap and profitable, and 2. We don't like government telling us what to do.  Land of McDonald's and Walmart also likes Arrogant Bastard and has a puritanical rave about distribution and consumption of certain beverages....and has a obesity problem.

go figure.  I can't decide about America....and I was born here.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Another oopsie
« on: March 13, 2011, 02:24:38 PM »

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Another oopsie
« on: March 13, 2011, 02:06:10 PM »
I think if you've ever had a bad batch, you get more stringent about sanitation.  Over time, some of that strictness wears off.  But both sides are right.  It is unlikely that you might have an infection from a short exposure to a relatively clean surface...but unlikely  isn't good enough for most (at least brewers)...
unlikely to get her pregnant.
unlikely to catch anything eating food from a restroom floor.
unlikely to get caught.

Or, just do the right thing and know you can "Relax, Not Worry, and have a clean uninfected Homebrew".

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Beer Comp Entries Up?
« on: March 12, 2011, 07:58:54 PM »
I have been thinking about competitions lately....I have no real interest in entering them because while the feedback is nice, I don't brew to win, but rather to enjoy (making and crafted for and by me), but judging has my interest to grow my own knowledge of what is out I may take the exam this year.

I think that capping entries and making them more expensive would work....also, perhaps NHC needs qualifiers.  If you score minimum of 30 in a qualifying comp, you gain entry for 1 beer in nationals.  I like the idea of each brewer bringing what they think is their best beer, rather than the shotgun approach to winning medals.

Obviously, if it cost $100 to enter one beer, you would bring only your best of best, but that is not the spirit of inclusion that the AHA has always been about....hence the two rounds and regional judging at NHC.

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