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Who to vote for?  That's your choice, but I do have my opinion ;-)   

Besides their bios on the AHA site, The Brewing Network will be doing interviews with all the candidates in the month of March.  In the past, they've done them at the beginning of the Sunday Session, so you don't have to wait until the end of the program.  Check out their webite, http://www.thebrewingnetwork.com for the show schedule (sometimes their Sunday Session is on Monday).

Fred...when are you going to be on?

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Events / Re: NHC 2013 Entry Problems - Possible Solutions?
« on: March 05, 2013, 09:44:12 AM »
how much money would the AHA save by NOT printing out those certificates for first round beers that get some score above 20? 

btw, I throw those things in the garbage before i even read the scoresheets.



In fact, don't even send out ribbons to the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place finishers. 

Use that money to promote the well being of the first round judging.

Now this I can agree with.  I save my certificates, but definitely don't need them.  Or send them out in email format ( automatically generated from the database to a template ).

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Events / Re: NHC 2013 Entry Problems - Possible Solutions?
« on: March 05, 2013, 09:25:00 AM »
Tough luck silver/bronze; do better next year. 
Isn't it conceivable (Wallace Shawn voice inserted) that a silver and bronze in one region could be a better beer than all the golds in the other regions? 

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I listen to brewing podcasts, Brewing Network, Beersmith, some local  podcasts like Seacoast Beverage Lab, etc.

I may have the TV on somedays depending on what's on, like sports or watching the Beerfest dvd...DASSSSSS BBBBOOOOOOOTTTTT!!!

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Events / NHC 2013 Entry Problems - Possible Solutions?
« on: March 01, 2013, 08:39:13 AM »
Update posted on Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10151335533118310&id=19834173309

edit:  Here's the text of the posting ( too hard to do from my phone )

NHC Registration Update: The AHA continues to actively troubleshoot the problems associated with this year's National Homebrew Competition (NHC) registration. We are sorry that the progress is not faster; at this point, the AHA is focused on taking the time necessary to get this right rather than rushing through the remediation process. We know those of you with entries are anxious for an update on their status.

Overpayments and other payment issues were among the AHA's priorities to address. As of Friday, March 1, we believe we have resolved most overpayment issues, and are working to resolve the remaining overpayments as soon as possible. If you experienced a payment issue, you should have received a credit (refund) notice from the AHA via our payment processor, or will receive one soon. (Of course, a statement or processing by your financial institution is subject to their policies and practices.)

Another step in the clean-up process has involved updating the competition database to reflect all paid entries as, in fact, paid. This is now complete. This leaves some entries in the system that are still unpaid, whether due to the entrant's selected region being at capacity or due to other issues. As troubleshooting continues, rest assured that all currently registered entries (paid and unpaid) will have an opportunity to be judged in the competition. The AHA will be in touch directly with everyone who registered in the system within the next several business days.

What's next?
Due to the problems with registration, some judge centers mistakenly accepted more entries than the designated limit for judging. The AHA is currently finalizing and executing a plan to reassign entries among the judge centers. As soon as possible, entrants will be contacted directly if their entry(s) needs to be reassigned to an alternate region. This communication will outline the steps to follow to accept and finalize the reassignment.

Once again, please accept the AHA staff's apologies for the failures and frustrations of this year’s registration and payment system.

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Events / NHC 2013 Entry Problems - Possible Solutions?
« on: March 01, 2013, 08:30:49 AM »
There are a lot of open spots in some regions but I'm not sure if the website numbers have been updated.  The AHA also said they are shifting some of the oversold region's entries elsewhere.  Some people have commented on the BN forum that they received emails from Gary regarding reassignment, so my guess is they are still working on it.

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Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Bigfoot 2013
« on: February 28, 2013, 11:36:47 AM »
4 pack? Why?  >:(

Same cost as 6 pack last year?

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Events / Re: NHC 2013 Entry Problems - Possible Solutions?
« on: February 28, 2013, 11:24:17 AM »
I think you are fooling yourself if you think the winners of the NHC are the best of the best when many, many people were shut out of entering all together.  This year it will be the best of the best of people who were fortunate to get a slot.  Might as well make it a random lottery.....

I don't think anyone is fooling themselves, but to say that winning a medal doesn't grant you some standing because you were lucky to get in when others didn't is a little insulting.  I definitely admit I am not the best of the best, but do the best I can and try to improve.  Many of the best brewers out there don't even compete, so what does that say about last year's winners?  Again, some got shut out which is unfortunately,  but entering beers that I've been brewing over the past 6 months in preparation for the competition was a priority to me.  So I made sure I was available when registration opened.  And I do not "carpet bomb".  I had two other beers I could have entered but didn't because I didn't feel like they were worthy.

What about the brewers who don't attend NHC because they can't afford it until it's in their backyard so they can limit the expense of travel, and share a room with 3 other people to cut down on cost?  If they decide $30 is too steep for a brewing competition, is there beer not considered the best of the best?

And it's because we are willing to spend hundreds, even thousands of dollars to attend the greatest homebrew event in the world that we balk at increasing the cost even more by doubling the entry fee for competition.  Again, if it happens, I just won't enter.  But I will still attend NHC and have a great time.

NHC is one of the comps I try to enter each year.  Other ones I will enter will either be local, or if someone I know from The Brewing Network is calling for entries and it fits my timeline.

Based on the responses from Tom, Ron, Fred, and others, I know the opinions on both sides will get their day in court and hopefully the outcome will benefit the membership as a whole.

edit:  although I think Tom will take a position opposing me because he hates Belichick  ;D

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Events / Re: NHC 2013 Entry Problems - Possible Solutions?
« on: February 28, 2013, 11:03:38 AM »
With the cost to attend NHC every year going up, it just wouldn't be worth it to me.
Can you be more specific? 
Conference cost, Hotel cost, or Travel cost?
The first one, Conference cost, has had very few increases, Hotel, we have a little control over and have held the increases down, travel we have no influence on.

Fred,

I was referring to the total cost to attend, which I realize the AHA doesn't have a lot of control over.  It was not meant to offend or suggest the AHA, GC, or local committees aren't doing a great job setting these events up...they are.

Thanks!

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Events / Re: NHC 2013 Entry Problems - Possible Solutions?
« on: February 28, 2013, 09:54:54 AM »
+1!!!!   And that is what a higher entry fee will do..people will be sending the beers that they feel are the best of the best.  It will help lower the amount of people "carpet bombing" the competition with every beer they have brewed in the last 6 months.   The brewers who brew beers specifically for the NHC,and have put in many hours refining and brewing will pay the higher entrance fees. The guys just looking for feedback will opt out and find other comps.

I don't agree with this.  This year, I specifically scheduled my brew days for the competition, entered beers that I thought could win ( some have won this year including NHC ).  Even though I paid more than $30 to register my entries this year, if I had to pay $30 to register one, I just wouldn't bother...even if I had won with that beer throughout the year.  I also think the banquet awards ceremony wouldn't be as exciting as it is now, knowing that anyone has a chance to win, not just the ones with the means (i.e. $$)

With the cost to attend NHC every year going up, it just wouldn't be worth it to me.

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Events / Re: NHC 2013 Entry Problems - Possible Solutions?
« on: February 28, 2013, 09:42:49 AM »
and here's a comment from you on conference registration last year:
"...Obviously the servers are overloaded but it will eventually go through.  It felt like I was trying to get Buffett tickets."   ;D

Yes, I did say that but I didn't think it was an issue.  Like you said, last year was a walk in the park compared to this year.

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Kegging and Bottling / Bottle Fill Line
« on: February 28, 2013, 07:37:26 AM »
So here's one that bugs me.  In several competitions, most scoresheets have had the low fill or high fill line checked.  I know you're not supposed to get points off for that, but is this picture ( taken from the internet ) a good indication of a proper fill.


I use a beergun and it is said that if you fill it to the top, the displacement of the gun will result in a proper fill when removed, but I'm not too sure of that so I'll hit it with a little extra.

Thanks.

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Events / Re: NHC 2013 Entry Problems - Possible Solutions?
« on: February 28, 2013, 07:07:02 AM »
I don't see where it's extremely exclusive.  Everyone had the same opportunity to experience 503 Service Unavailable errors as anyone else.  The brewer has to make a decision if it's important enough to take time off from work, shift their lunch hour, or call in sick to be available for the opening of registration.  Moving it to a Saturday or evening may work, but not everyone is working banker's hours, (2nd & 3rd shifts, working weekends, etc ), so you potentially exclude them.

I am against a prequalifier for the ability to enter the first round of the NHC.  That's potentially 3 brewing days for one competition depending on the style.  Now you exclude the people who try to fit a brewday in between work, kid's karate, family time, and all the other crap we save up for the weekend. 

I enjoy enter the national competition, but the rule changes proposed will exclude me from entering in the future (prequalifier, $30 entry fee, etc.)...so mission accomplished I guess.

I don't see an too much of an issue with lowering the limit to 10, but I would never enter that many anyway, so I'd hate to exclude the one who do.



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Events / Re: NHC 2013 Entry Problems - Possible Solutions?
« on: February 28, 2013, 06:34:37 AM »
Was there problems registering for the competition last year?  I got my 4 entries in no problem and then remember watching the site to see how fast they filled up.  Not as fast as this year, but pretty quickly.  I just don't remember any issues with the comp registration, hotel, or conference.

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Events / Re: NHC 2013 Entry Problems - Possible Solutions?
« on: February 27, 2013, 02:29:14 PM »
At $30-$50 per entry, wouldn't you think there would be a requirement for the judges to be National or above, therefore limiting the number of judges.  I know I wouldn't want to spend that money and have someone like me judge the beer.

You think you can find that many National level judges?

It takes time, money, effort, reading, learning, etc to become a National level judge, or any BJCP judge for that matter. This is obviously the bottleneck here - people who will talk about solutions but not actually be part of it. We NEED more qualified judges!

That was my point.  At a entry fee this high, there would have to be some expectation of quality and experience, similar to the 2nd round of NHC.  I admit I am not a judge but have thought about it.  But I have a hard time picking up flavors and aroma, and believe me I try (as my recycle bin can attest to :)

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