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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Woo hoo!
« on: June 23, 2015, 05:35:49 AM »
Congrats!!

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Other Fermentables / Re: Ey! Where you get your honey at?
« on: June 23, 2015, 05:34:13 AM »

Does one of those books seem noticeably better than the other?  I am trying to decide which one to read first.

I never read a mead book but I found online resources from Michael Fairbrother and Curt Stock to be invaluable.  Search out any documents by them and download some of the BN and Basic Brewing podcasts.

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Other Fermentables / Re: Ey! Where you get your honey at?
« on: June 22, 2015, 10:47:36 AM »
Local is great if you can afford it. However iv'e had great experiences with  https://www.dutchgoldhoney.com/.
Orange blossom is tasty.

This is what I have used and I love it.  I also believe Michael Fairbrother sources a lot of his honey form them (and McClure's in NH, which they also own).  I can get a 60 lb pail of wildflower from them for about $168 shipped, which works out to about $2.81 per lb.  Not a bad price.  Other local options for me end up being closer to $4-5 /lb.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 19, 2015, 11:11:21 AM »
Back on topic. One way to change the rules is to make the first round points per ribbon worth less than the second round medal. Anyone here that values, no, lusts after a second round medal? I can say that it is easier to ribbon in the first round than medal in the second round. I always sctratched my head at the current point set up.

So something like 3 pts for gold, 2 pts for silver and 1 pt for bronze in the first round?  I think that idea has merit.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 19, 2015, 11:07:22 AM »
Back on topic. One way to change the rules is to make the first round points per ribbon worth less than the second round medal. Anyone here that values, no, lusts after a second round medal? I can say that it is easier to ribbon in the first round than medal in the second round. I always sctratched my head at the current point set up.
To me it seems that a 'circuit' type system would make more sense (a club that consistently has award winning brewers in multiple comps would seem to be more 'deserving' than a club that targets one comp), although I suppose that could be gamed the same way.  Our state circuit looks like it may fall victim to that sort of thing.
Only problem is I don't think any of the clubs that win at NHC are just targeting that comp.  I see the Brewing Network entered as a club in most of the competitions I enter.  And most of these comps pull entries from all around the country (KCBM, MidWinter, Mashout, etc.).   So if the BN enters comps all year and wins, will the complaining stop if the win COTY again...doubt it.

P.S. Notice the double space after each period  8)
 

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC Date...
« on: June 19, 2015, 08:25:44 AM »
All the districts around here, as far as I know, end the regular school year the week before Memorial Day.
Same here.  School usually starts in August and is wrapped up at the end of May.  We almost never get snow days, though (has happened twice in the ten years my daughter has been in school).  We do get hurricane days sometimes, though.
Here in NH, we start at the end of August, then throw in a few weeks for Christmas, February, and April vacations, and finish up around June 10-12.  Any snow days have to be made up (although the last few days this year were spent doing field days, watching movies, etc).  Last year, my district instituted "Blizzard Bags"...assignments in case of a snow day the kids do and if 80% of the population do them, it doesn't count as a snow day.  The assignment had nothing to do with what the kids were studying.  Some basic math and writing exercises...well below the level he's at.

Maybe I should homeschool him next year and finish around June 1st.  ;)

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC Date...
« on: June 19, 2015, 06:10:44 AM »
Traveling in winter sucks. I've had flights canceled due to snow and ice before. That is no fun.
Even more fun when the pilot comes on over the intercom and says they are almost ready to leave...just a quick stop to get the ice off the wings before we take off.   :o

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC Date...
« on: June 19, 2015, 05:34:58 AM »
Not being judgmental or anything, just curious what happens on the kids last day at school that you miss and would feel guilty about?

Next year, my son's 8th grade graduation (I know, I know) falls right in the middle of NHC so I may not be able to go.  Is it bad for me to hope for the same kind of winter we had this past year so it gets pushed to the following week? ;)

It's tricky - keep it where it is - it interferes with some end of school. Move it back, you run into father's days. fun times! There's also the question of hotel availability - as you move deeper into summer, it's harder to get rooms.

What better gift for a Dad?  Last year, we came home on Father's Day and got a free beer on Southwest!


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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Pitch Rates
« on: June 19, 2015, 05:28:12 AM »
I've been using this one lately and seem to be fine with pitching rates:
http://www.yeastcalculator.com/

Also, I use the Kai stir plate settings because it gives me more yeast than Jamil's  ;)

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 18, 2015, 08:50:09 AM »
I wonder if QUAFF or ASH or the Zealots win next year, does all this talk go away and will it return if the BN wins the following year?

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: NHC 2015 First Round Results
« on: June 18, 2015, 08:23:57 AM »
With the relatively new entry restrictions, it would be fun to see the creation of a new award. Tripple Cown! Medaling in all three groups, Beer Mead and Cider. Not a one winner only thing, but anyone who wins a medal in all three gets a Tripple Crown. With only 4 entries allowed, that would be a heck of a feat. Maybe even more impressive than Ninkasi.

AmandaK will confirm that at the banquet I said "my goal for next year is to win all 4 "Major Awards" and get booed louder than The Brewing Network for hogging all the awards"   ;D

If you beat me in the cider category for KCBM next year...I'll boo you ;)

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Events / Re: NHC 2016 Location
« on: June 18, 2015, 07:18:22 AM »
Personal confession - was driving from Rehoboth Beach to home after the conference, and when we crossed into Maryland it dawned on me what Delmarva stands for. Doh!

It's not apparent to many travelers that Delmarva stands for Delaware-Maryland-Virginia.  The Delaware and Maryland parts are easy, but the Virginia part is not apparent until one looks at a map.  Delaware used to be part of Maryland at one point.  It was then a part of Pennsylvania.  This tug of war is the reason for the establishment of the Mason-Dixon line.
Cool. I wonder how long till they call my area Wagonho?
I live in Mass near the NH and Vermont border. VENHMA? MANHVE?
Ver-hamp-sachusetts!

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 17, 2015, 01:16:20 PM »
GC members are elected at large, no regions for the elections. We do listen to the member input.

Fill out that survey. If you feel strongly about it, e-mail the AHA and the competition sub-committee.

Jeff,
I know the survey is mostly going to be looking for feedback from San Diego, but will there be one for the membership as a whole, especially if it provides feedback for future conference and competition rules.  I assume the survey you are talking about is only being sent to those who attended San Diego.

Thanks!

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 17, 2015, 11:56:00 AM »
BN members (and other National Internet clubs) do not have to deal with this, while local terrestrial clubs gain and lose members due to locale changes.
Not so. Several people, myself included, who have entered under the BN club in the past find a local club and enter under that club, even though they know there's no chance of winning a COTY or Gambrinus.  Could I enter under the BN and go up on stage during the conference?  Sure, but that's not why I and most people enter.

Many cities have multiple clubs, in fact I know people who belong to a local club but still claim the BN in comps. Too busy to attend meetings? Many clubs like mine have started recording their meetings, in fact we even started live streaming our meetings for those who cannot attend.
A lot of people don't live in a city.  some may be far away from a local club or in a rural area where there aren't a lot of homebrewers or homebrewers interested in being in a club to form one.  Also, a lot of people got their homebrewing chops from the BN and have a connection with the members, chatting in the forums or on the live chat during show and meeting outside of the BN broadcasts to brew, attend beer festivals or just hang out.

So you are saying if you stream your meetings and watch them online, you are a club member and can legitimately join as a member of that club?  Sounds like an internet based club.

I too felt quite puzzled as to why they were given the mic at the banquet to accept their award when the other winners were not.  Yeah I suppose that could have been just something Justin chose to do on his own and the AHA didn’t want to cause a scene, but maybe it’s because they were producing a show.
Do you honestly think Gary would deny the Gambrinus winner time on the microphone?  Even Mark Schoppe was being called out by the crowd to give a speech but he declined.  Obviously, Justin is comfortable addressing a crowd and grabbing the microphone on behalf of the BN Army is second nature to him.

So is the BN a club or a business/sponsor? We really have no way of answering that as the AHA has continuously failed to fully address what defines a club.
Even though Justin accepted the award for the BN Army, he has nothing to do with the forming of the BN club.  It was a listener who didn't have access to his own club and setup the BN Army as a sanctioned club.  He even handed off the trophy to one of the winners for him to take back to his table because it was his award.

Not sure if those fix the problem, but they are action rather than inaction. Not too keen on the idea of separating based on club size, but that might be more based on the fact that I am in a larger club and would still get our butts kicked by the BN.

Of course maybe segmenting it based on total club entries rather than total club members might work, especially for those larger clubs who have very few members compete.
Quaff came within 6 points of winning last year.  It's been rumored that it was only a couple points this year but until the AHA publishes those numbers, it's just a rumor.

Another idea I have floated is requiring NHC entries to have placed in another AHA sanctioned competition throughout the before they are eligible to enter the NHC comp, but that might require more resources than available.
Not sure how well this would work since they are probably already entering in competitions throughout the year.

At the end of the day, it is not our problem to fix as we do not have the authority to do so. Where we do have control is in our elected Governing Board. If we choose to not hold them accountable (and by accountable I mean bringing this issue to their attention, including suggestions on how to fix it), then it will never change. If they won’t speak for their members, then maybe they do not best represent their regions and need to be replaced by people who better understand their constituents.
I've never considered a GC member to be regional.  I expect the folks in CA as well as the East Coast to take the entire membership into account when making suggestions to the AHA.  I'm sure the next monthly phone call is going to be interesting.

Apologies for the novel, but I love this community and don’t want to see it splinter over something so frivolous.
CHEERS!

Agree with you here!  I'm really not trying to be argumentative here as I believe a fair change is necessary, but felt I needed to address some of your statements above.

RDWHAHB and Brew Strong!

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 16, 2015, 01:36:02 PM »
The last 13 Homebrew Clubs of the Year:

  2003 QUAFF
  2004 QUAFF
  2005 QUAFF
  2006 QUAFF
  2007 Saint Paul
  2008 ? (the AHA site has some guy listed-Saint Paul again perhaps?)
  2009 Saint Paul
  2010 DOZE
  2011 The Brewing Network
  2012 The Brewing Network
  2013 The Brewing Network
  2014 The Brewing Network
  2015 The Brewing Network

Eliminate "online" clubs and I'm sure this list will look the same, minus the BN.  And having separate COTY categories for online vs. brick and mortar - how exciting that would be  ::).  The BN vs. Chop and Brew vs. Homebrewtalk...yay.

Maybe the COTY has run it's course and all effort should go into the Gambrinus and Radegast to make them the highlight of the evening.

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