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Homebrew Competitions / Re: Competition changes your category
« on: February 08, 2015, 03:24:19 PM »
Something doesn't add up. Mid-Winter is using 2008 guidelines according to their web site, so there shouldn't be a category 34 in the first place.

Maybe they split categories apart and your entry landed in Table 34, or Medal Category (not BJCP category) 34?

They are judging to 2008 BJCP but have added some extra categories looking forwards to 2014 such as Specialty IPA, Brett/Sour, Aussie Ales etc. My issue is that there is a disregard to my wishes as an entrant regarding which category I want to enter, and the fact that it's assumed that wild notes in 2008 20A is a negative.

I was told that since cat. 20 is a small group it's being combined with cat. 21 and so I would stand a better chance being judged against brett/sour rather than judged against spiced. But I'm not being judged against spice beers. because I should be judged as a fruit beer, as the assigned category.

It's not a group or table issue. I'm clearly looking at a 34A Specialty Brett / Sour Ale reassignment right now.

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: Competition changes your category
« on: February 08, 2015, 01:48:34 PM »
Is it in Texas?

No. Sod it, it's Midwinter Homebrew in Milwaukee.

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: Competition changes your category
« on: February 08, 2015, 07:45:47 AM »
I just want to go on the record and say that while KCBM 32 matches nearly all of the qualities of the comp mentioned here (judging dates, same circuits), it is certainly not KCBM 32. We would not move an entry and will call the entrant directly if we think that there is confusion to ask the entrant what they want to do.

It's not KCBM 32.

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: Competition changes your category
« on: February 07, 2015, 09:35:47 PM »
I'm in the same boat, had my fruit beer moved to category 34 against my will.  Worse still, it is a clean fermented beer with tartness only from the fruit.

There are no style guidelines published for this category, just the name "specialty sour and brett beers".
I had to dig pretty deep in the competition web site just to find out they even had this special category, sure didn't know about it up front.

I've seen it before where other competitions have a specialty IPA category or similar, in that case it was prominently noted that any specialty IPA's entered in 16E or 23 would be moved to the "Specialty IPA" category.  I have no problem with that, as long as you know what you're getting into up front.

Why do I get the feeling we're talking about the same comp? Judging in two weeks?

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: Competition changes your category
« on: February 07, 2015, 01:11:35 PM »
Yeah I won't be entering this competition next year. What's scary is to quote the coordinator "It gets judged the same no matter what category it is in". Uh, no, how it gets judged is highly dpendant on the style guidelines for that category. We've traded emails back and forth, but that this point I'm going to demand the original category, then contact BJCP to file a complaint.

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: Competition changes your category
« on: February 07, 2015, 12:25:33 PM »
I'm with you - seems a bit odd.  A Berliner aged on fruit would go in 20A, and certainly it could have a hint of Brett, so what's the difference?  Maybe they're hung up on base style?  But still...

No one but the entrant should determine the category.

That's what I've always thought.

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Beer Travel / Re: Oslo?
« on: February 07, 2015, 12:12:52 PM »
Stumbled across Crowbar & Bryggeri courtesy of Untappd. Excellent atmosphere brewpub with 6 house taps and 14 more other local micro-options. Also a had a rotisserie food window upstairs. Friendly staff, good music and fun vibe. Beer was fairly solid too. Simcoe SMaSH IPA was average but the Smoked Pale Ale was really tasty.

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Homebrew Competitions / Re: Competition changes your category
« on: February 07, 2015, 11:52:07 AM »
Thanks Denny. Its a big competition; BJCP and MCAB qualifier. I was trying to avoid naming the actual competition before I gauged opinion here.

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Homebrew Competitions / Competition changes your category
« on: February 07, 2015, 11:41:51 AM »
Has anyone else had an experience where you submit entries to competition, then the judging coordinator reassigns your entry to a different category? I entered a 20A; basically a fruit beer with very mild wild yeast notes from the fruit that I noted in the description. It's been moved against my wishes to a 34A Specialty Brett/Sour, and the coordinator has declined my request to return it to 20A.

To me, it's a fruit beer first and foremost, with just a hint of wild. If it was a Brett/sour with a hint of fruit I would understand, but it's not. I want it judged as a fruit beer. I do  not want it judged against a flight of primarily sour or Brett beers where that character is the defining flavor. The coordinator told me it would be marked down in 20A if they tasted Brett notes, but I do not see anything in the 2008 guidelines that says wild yeast is inappropriate in 20A.

I feel I know my beer better than a comp coordinator who's read a 50 character description of it.  Anyone else experienced this?

 >:(

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Beer Travel / Re: Oslo?
« on: February 06, 2015, 03:52:19 AM »
Thanks guys,

I've got meetings at the airport all day but I'll try to sneak in on the express train and catch the last of the daylight. And by the sounds of it, it's a good thing I'm on expenses!

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Beer Travel / Oslo?
« on: February 04, 2015, 07:40:55 AM »
Headed to Oslo for 48 hrs. Any suggestions?

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Extract/Partial Mash Brewing / Re: Black IPA Extract Recipe?
« on: February 04, 2015, 07:37:15 AM »
For 5 gal I'd try the following to get the color without the excessive roast. This is real close to my all grain recipe I brew regularly.

8 oz BlackPrinz
8 oz Midnight Wheat
1 lb C-60/75
6lbs Extra light DME
1lb Dextrose

2oz Chinook @ 60 mins (~75 IBUs)
4oz of assorted finishing hops at flameout
4oz of assorted finishing hops in dry hops

Hops wise I think lots of late Chinook, Simcoe, Amarillo, Cascade, Mosaic, Galaxy etc work well for this style.



That'd make an excellent extract beer. Love Blackprinz and/or Midnight Wheat for that.

Thanks Jon,

I've got the AG Imperial version ready to tap at the house right now. 2oz each of Simcoe, Amarillo, Chinook and Citra went in the keg 3 days ago. Next time you're passing through Pike Township come on over!

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Extract/Partial Mash Brewing / Re: Black IPA Extract Recipe?
« on: February 04, 2015, 07:28:46 AM »
For 5 gal I'd try the following to get the color without the excessive roast. This is real close to my all grain recipe I brew regularly.

8 oz BlackPrinz
8 oz Midnight Wheat
1 lb C-60/75
6lbs Extra light DME
1lb Dextrose

2oz Chinook @ 60 mins (~75 IBUs)
4oz of assorted finishing hops at flameout
4oz of assorted finishing hops in dry hops

Hops wise I think lots of late Chinook, Simcoe, Amarillo, Cascade, Mosaic, Galaxy etc work well for this style.


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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: help me spend my bonus
« on: January 15, 2015, 07:43:51 PM »
I'm boring when it comes to spending bonuses.  The first things that came mind were:

1) Pay down son's college loans
2) Extra principle payment on the mortgage
3) put in savings account or IRA

I'm sure you can come with something more fun.   ::)

Paul

I am the same way Paul.

But back to OP, you can build yourself a nice little E-Brewery for $2k. Notice I said "build yourself". That $2k would be the parts to build one without a full control box. High Gravity out of Tulsa sells 'dial type' switches for electric elements, which would bring down the cost of going electric considerably. Dave Knott is a great guy and will probably be who I go to when I break down and convert the Sabco to electric.

good info, thanks.

Big +1 for High Gravity. I've known Dave and Desiree for years, judged with them in FOAM Cup, and shopped there many a time back when it was my LHBS.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Recommend a good monthly beer club?
« on: December 14, 2014, 12:37:52 PM »
Anyone have a good recommendation (or warning) on a beer of the month club? Looking online I see several but other wanting stay away from those that think Anchor Steam or Sam Adams is something novel.

So far I've looked at www.beermonthclub.com, www.craftbeerclub.com and www.amazingclubs.com/beer. Any others? Any comments on these ones? My boss asked me for a recommendation, but since I only brew my own or spend my hard earned $$$ on beer I've researched directly, I've not got any experience on trusting someone else to send me something good!

Thanks,
Ross

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