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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: It begins...
« on: March 20, 2017, 03:02:21 PM »
Exclusive access to fermenters, yeast, etc. really doesn't bother me at all.

There are so many different varieties of everything available that I think it's moot.

As far as the LHBS, there is and always will be more variety available on-line.  If NB has what I think I need, I'll order from them.

 



Simply put, it irks me that I can get Omega strain x, but not y from my LHBS due to NB's agreement.  The fact that y is available only through NB means I can't order it as fresh as my LHBS provides x.  It seems irksome to me that instead of the weekly delivery from Omega to my LHBS, if I want an Omega Strain that is covered by NB, I have to get it from Chicago by way of Minnesota (with the attendant issues of delivery time and yeast viability impacted. 

If I have a particular favorite maltster and brand (say Weyermann Floor Malted Bohemian Pils), I would be upset if Weyermann sold to homebrewers only through one online homebrew outlet and I had to pay extra for the shipping to get it.  Maybe it won't come to that, but, then again, I didn't expect a yeast monopoly to be imposed, either, though I feared to some degree the unknown and this is what we have.  I don't mind that NB isn't releasing the recipes for its kits, but that is because I find many recipes from reliable sources as a starting point for most styles of beers that I brew.   

Equipment, as you say, is ubiquitous and ordering it online is not going to put my LHBS out of business (they sell equipment almost as an after thought and as an accommodation to new customers - they are homebrewing and wine ingredients and ancillary supplies mainly).

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: It begins...
« on: March 20, 2017, 08:57:38 AM »
I appreciate the NB marketing philosophy and its target demographics (which are not me - and that is fine).  My largest concern are the limitations that it is able to bring upon the market.  Specifically, that it is using market strength (real or perceived based on its ownership?) to limit availabilities of products that would otherwise be available through my LHBS.  Namely, "locking up" certain distribution lines making certain items unavailable to homebrewers through their LHBS.  I first experienced it with Omega Labs yeast varieties.  I cannot get all of Omega's yeasts through my LHBS, because NB has an exclusive on certain yeasts that appear to be available to pro brewers through Omega, but are only available to homebrewers through NB.

I like my yeast to travel the least amount and as someone who prefers to buy from my LHBS for local support reasons, I see the limitations as a bit overreaching.  (For what it is worth, Omega is located just a few miles from my LHBS, so its yeast deliveries to the LHBS are very fresh).  Will this happen with other products?  When the buyout was first mentioned on this forum, most folks thought it is not likely.  I am not so sure, but I probably won't be searching out NB for my homebrewing products that are not available through my LHBS (I'll just go to other sources or do without).  Just my 2 cents...

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One more tip - enter the beer that you brewed and not the beer you intended to brew...I have judged good beers that just miss the style as entered that would have been surprisingly better suited to enter into a similar, but different style.

I have adjusted my approach for this, as well as anticipating a judge bias that tends to favor a slightly bigger beer within a category.  It may not be "right", but it is what it is.....

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Have y'all ever seen anything like this?
« on: February 28, 2017, 09:45:49 AM »
Quality is the key.  I pay more than $50 per sack for Weyermann floor malted and it is worth the price.  It is a flyer here and they may not get off the ground.  It's just a matter of risk tolerance for you.  With 10 guys in a club buy, it would spread the risk greatly...but my club already does occasional bulk purchases, so it would only make sense if shipping is nearly free. YMMV, of course.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Introduction to Low Oxygen Brewing
« on: February 27, 2017, 08:05:37 PM »
I have a friend that decocts Helles in a unique way that could work with low O2.  He starts his mash that is being decocted as a separate mash in a separate vessel - roughly 1/3rd of the grist and water.  He adds water salts and additives and runs through his steps and adds it back to the main mash that is going through a single step from mid 140's F to mid 150's F and then it is all raised to a mash out.  He does not go Low Oxygen, but could.  His point is that his decoction doesn't cost him a lot of extra time for a single decoction.  It's all a matter of timing and pre-boiling and breaking out the SMB and BTB (and AA, if you are going triple threat).  I'm not saying I have applied the technique, but it seems relatively compatible to Low O2 approach if you work out the details....

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: How to recover yeast out of a bucket
« on: February 25, 2017, 05:17:34 AM »
I just wipe some sanitizer on the upper part of the bucket and pour through a sanitized funnel. I use the yeast shortly after harvest or else I toss it after a few weeks, though.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Got a brewday disaster story?
« on: February 24, 2017, 11:44:29 AM »
So I had two empty kegs and was transferring Vienna lager to the kegs from  bright tanks for an annual party.  I CO2 purge with sanitizer, so one keg was filled with sanitizer and jumpered to a second keg to push it all out and then fill that empty sanitized keg from the bright tank keg.  Then clean, sanitize and purge the prior bright tank keg and repeat the process with the second bright tank of Vienna...except somewhere along the line after removing the tape identifying the beer kegs, I confused which was which and proceeded to put about a half pint of iodophor solution into a bright tank of Vienna Lager!  I could not tell the difference in the beers - so I guess it turns out that beer is pretty forgiving, indeed. I am also happy that my iodophor solution was at the dilute end of the spectrum for its use.  I didn't bring the bad keg to the party...if you were wondering about that.

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I thought it was adopted in part to distinguish the conference from the competition, since both were referred to as "NHC" in common parlance among my group.  Changes of these types don't bother me a bit - now if it was just undertaken to sell more appealing t-shirts, that is a whole 'nother thing😀

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Introduction to Low Oxygen Brewing
« on: February 16, 2017, 03:22:47 PM »
This is a dumb question, but I have a lid to use for the mash cap and want to punch a hole for the locline to connect to an elbow on the topside of the lid.  What is the punch size for the threaded locline fitting?  I'm guessing 3/4", but I don't want to miss it and screw up the lid and the mash cap function in the process - borrowing a conduit punch from an electrician friend.  Thanks.

My locline threaded coupler was 1/2 NPT. I used my step bit.

Right, so I guess a 3/4 inch punch is about 3/64ths big (45/64ths being the hole for 1/2"NPT based on a quick internet search); I will see if my step drill has an 11/16ths inch step to get a bit closer.  I just don't have access to the smaller calibrations in terms of measurement or boring.  Thanks.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Introduction to Low Oxygen Brewing
« on: February 16, 2017, 04:18:17 AM »
This is a dumb question, but I have a lid to use for the mash cap and want to punch a hole for the locline to connect to an elbow on the topside of the lid.  What is the punch size for the threaded locline fitting?  I'm guessing 3/4", but I don't want to miss it and screw up the lid and the mash cap function in the process - borrowing a conduit punch from an electrician friend.  Thanks.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Increasing ABV Content of beer
« on: February 16, 2017, 03:57:34 AM »
For the invert sugar, if you don't want to make it, you can buy it under the brand name of Lyle's Golden Syrup.  Google it and you will find outlets that sell it.  I added it at high krausen without any issue, also.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Making a DIY 12000 BTU/hr Glycol Chiller
« on: February 16, 2017, 03:47:59 AM »
I think I have discovered the line that I won't cross on DIY projects.  But as noted that is extremely cool.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Out of my comfort zone
« on: February 15, 2017, 12:11:48 PM »
I'm working on my process since going all electric BIAB.  Combined with lower boil off rate with simmering rather than raging boil, I have had a couple "light batches".  No problems - I found out I like Leichtbier!

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Introduction to Low Oxygen Brewing
« on: February 14, 2017, 07:04:00 PM »
I am wondering about people's thoughts on low gravity British ales using LOB techniques.  I found the malt flavors a bit too strong compared to known styles.  The German lagers are killer on point with LOB, but I'm thinking that perhaps it is out of style for low alcohol Bitters, for example.  Maybe I just had a bad result from process or recipe, which I would admit to without hesitation, if others are finding it to be good in their experience

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: OMG....I just made good beer!!!
« on: February 14, 2017, 06:48:34 PM »
Keep it up!  I have found that my circle of influence has grown as I brewed and got better.  I still get what I consider a klinker now and then (recipe or process was not clicking for me), but I am more frequently praised for the beers these days.  It makes it all worthwhile.  And winning a couple times at my club only competition against national champs hasn't t hurt the confidence, either.  It shows to me that anyone can make a really good beer that will hold up to just about any commercial beer.  The poor pros actually have to sell their beer, after all, so many of them aim toward the middle of the road as a matter of economics.  Which is understandable.

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