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But back to your post Nateo.  If I missed the sweet spot, and pitched 33% viable cells (or worse since it was a day in 100F heat from the LHBS), what now?  I guess I have to let this ride out since it's starting to show signs of life after 2 days.  But what will that mean to the end result of the starter?  Will it be ready for a lager in 3-4 days?  Or will I still be short on cells?

Hoping I'm staying within the OP's topic......


Good info, thanks.  Need to buy that book!

Thinking about something like this on my next brew. A pale ale malt bill and two different yeasts. I brew 10 gals and two separate fermenters. Considering a San Fran lager for one and a English ale or London ale for the other. All three are past expiration so a starter is required prior to use. Fermentation temps will be the same unless I figure how to keep one bucket in an air conditioned part of the house and the other in the regulated chamber. Looking forward to it whatever the result. I just hope to make a tasty brew.

Have switched to this method myself.  It's truly amazing how different the beers come out. 

I just received some 2007 Pilsen and made a 1G starter on Sunday.  On Monday there was very little activity so I checked the MFG date on the pack.  It was 4-10 or almost three months old for a viability of 33% per Mr. Malty.  This morning there are more bubbles coming up, but far from where it should be 2 days in on a stir plate. 

So not to hijack the thread, should I have made a 2 stage starter as well and why?


Yeast and Fermentation / Re: San fran lager strain
« on: July 02, 2012, 02:50:25 PM »
+1.  You are at about 64% attenuation now.  It's only got a few more points in it....

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Dealing with trub
« on: July 02, 2012, 11:13:28 AM »
I try to remove as much trub as possible solely for the purpose of reusing the yeast.  I'm not concerned about the effect on the beer either.


General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Dealing with trub
« on: July 02, 2012, 11:04:41 AM »
I'm starting to brew to an extra half gallon or so as I have the same problem.  I also bought a large fine strainer bag but have yet to use it.


All Grain Brewing / Re: Mash schedules for Lagers
« on: July 02, 2012, 05:22:36 AM »
Just had to add a thought to this thread.  IF the malts produced today are all well modified, why do all of the German breweries still perform Hochkurz mashes?  Yes, tradition is one thing, but if it didn't affect the flavor and quality of the beer, I would think they would all go to single infusion to save time and money.  Thoughts?


General Homebrew Discussion / Re: how are you using maris otter?
« on: July 02, 2012, 05:03:08 AM »
I really like the 50/50 maris otter/2-row combo.


I use this combo quite often with my IPA recipe.

Me too....

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: That German lager flavor
« on: June 29, 2012, 07:23:39 AM »
On topic, I'm in DC now at my buddy's house for the golf tournament.  I built a "Go Tap" on wheels with my old tower and brought it down with a BoPils.  He was blown away.  I used 9# Floor Malted BoPils with .5# Vienna and .5# Munich with 4 Saaz additions and it is AWESOME.  I can say that the Hochkurz definitely made a difference.

Also had to post #500!  Not quite to Denny level, but still proud to be a homebrew geek!   8)


General Homebrew Discussion / Re: That German lager flavor
« on: June 29, 2012, 06:38:01 AM »
Me too!   ;D

Equipment and Software / Re: Aeration? How important is the method?
« on: June 28, 2012, 11:47:56 AM »
Mixstir, paint stirrer, never heard of the first and didn't think of the second. what a great wealth of info these forums are. I will have to give these a try my next batch. Thanks a bunch.

Here's a MixStir...

OK, just had one added to my Oktoberfest ingredient order from my LHBS.  Got the stainless version.  Seemed to make sense to spend 1/3 less than an O2 system for pretty much the same result.


General Homebrew Discussion / Re: That German lager flavor
« on: June 28, 2012, 11:38:04 AM »
Wow - 8K posts! A staggering number indeed!

Staggeringly ridiculous.

Ridiculously dedicated? You have helped me out on more than one occasion for sure!

+1.  Me too!

Equipment and Software / Re: Mash tun frustration
« on: June 28, 2012, 11:01:32 AM »
The JB Weld product looks promising. I use aquarium silicone that is food safe. It does an ok job.

Try it!  You'll like it!   ;)


General Homebrew Discussion / Re: That German lager flavor
« on: June 28, 2012, 10:42:48 AM »

That is great news, I figured life got in the way. I really enjoyed talking with him at the 2010 NHC. His doppelbock was excellent!

Hey, how many days until Philly?  :)

ALL of the beers he had there were excellent.

How many days til Philly?  Just enough to recover from Seattle!

We'll need every one of those days to prepare for Philly.  ;)

I'm on the local committee and the GC sub-committee...and there will be a ton of work to do in preparation for this prestigious event.  :) you very well know Denny. are now the 8K postman.  ;D

Ron, being local, I'd be happy to help for next year in any way.  Let me know.


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