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How the heck did they get away with pitching one vial in to 10G of lager wort?  Do they have a diacetyl removing machine or something?  How long is the lagering period?

I had a few lagers, and no diacetyl. I'm pretty sensitive to that stuff.

I'll have to ask about the lager fermentation process when I'm back in 2 weeks. That's when they bottle.

After the primary fermentation of 7 days (ales) the beer is cold crashed for 7 days, filtered and force carbonated.

Kai

Please post that?  I intrigued now as to what they are doing for lagers....

Dave

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Kai,

How the heck did they get away with pitching one vial in to 10G of lager wort?  Do they have a diacetyl removing machine or something?  How long is the lagering period?

Dave

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Kegging and Bottling / Re: Kegging without a fridge
« on: December 04, 2012, 06:18:43 AM »
+1.  You should be able to find a working fridge on Craigslist cheap....I found an upright freezer for $100. 

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All Grain Brewing / Re: OG right after pitching yeast
« on: December 03, 2012, 12:29:15 PM »

It was a full boil.  I may have to get a more efficient chilling process if I want to get it down to 68 or below.  I use a homemade immersion chiller and ice bath in a big wash tub.  I can chill to 70-75 range in about 20 minutes.
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I agree with the pitching temp as well.  If you can get to 70-75 in 20 minutes, I would think you can get to 65F in 30 minutes?

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All Grain Brewing / Re: OG right after pitching yeast
« on: December 03, 2012, 09:02:27 AM »
So I'm an idiot.  I guess I was so happy that I had enought volume at the end of the boil that I forgot to collect some wort for an OG reading.  However, we noticed it as soon as we put the carboy in the fermentation chamber.  We immediately took it out and grabbed a sample for an OG reading.  I was going for 1.086, but got 1.071.  We already aerated and pitched the yeast.  I would estimate about 8-10 minutes passed between the pitching of the yeast and the OG reading.  Is this OG reading valid, or did the yeast start going that quickly?  FYI, I pitched two packs of US-05.

1.071 is the number.  Did you take the reading at the right temp?

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Pests in brew house/ Need storage suggestions!
« on: December 03, 2012, 08:21:57 AM »

Dean, what happened to make you this passionate against the Vittles Vault?  Did grain spoil on you?  I've had a good experience with mine thus far.

Dave

Well, to make a long story shorter (I hope) Keep in mind the ones I bought were probably 8 years ago so they might have fixed the plastic mold quality and seals but I doubt it.

I bought the first one (about 14 gallon size) and made a fermenter out of it, then bought two more for grain storage. I found that all of these had such inconsistent molding of the main vessel that I had to hand file it to make the gasket surfaces seal on the lid mount ring. After that I found that for the o-ring in the spin-on lid to seal it had to be screwed on so tight that it took a mallet to loosen it. Kind of impractical for something advertised as being better than regular bucket lids and costing $45+ each. I really didn't care that the airlock didn't bubble as I knew the nasties would not be able to just float in due to the poor seal, but with our high humidity here in Florida I wasn't willing to leave my bulk grain possibly exposed to moisture and possibly insects (no rodents :-) I just want to make sure people don't think they are getting something better than buckets, and spending money for no reason. They should call them the "gimmick-Seal lids" not Gamma Seal. Just my experience, opinion, and a bit of humor.

Not to mention that if you need to really clean them you need to remove the lid mount and that is difficult and can break that part. If used for fermenters this is where the nasties hide. My solution and modification suggestions for this are at the bottom of the main page of my website. Pics of the vessels as fermenters is also on the site.

OK, I just use mine to store bulk grain, not as a fermentor.  I can see how that could cause problems.

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Kegging and Bottling / Re: Kegging a Belgian Tripel.
« on: December 03, 2012, 08:08:52 AM »
I always think it's best to let it take it's time unless there is a reason to rock and roll the keg around.....

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Pests in brew house/ Need storage suggestions!
« on: November 30, 2012, 09:51:02 AM »

Dean, what happened to make you this passionate against the Vittles Vault?  Did grain spoil on you?  I've had a good experience with mine thus far.

Dave

Same here.  I have 1 for 2-row and 1 for pilsner.  I will probably pick up another for Maris Otter in the future.

LOL!  I have the same as above as well as the third for MO!   ;D

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Pests in brew house/ Need storage suggestions!
« on: November 30, 2012, 08:59:58 AM »
Vittles Vaults seem thinner than buckets and they are not going to stop a rodent that will chew plastic. Those crappy Gamma-Seal lids they use also don't seal like people want to think they do. If you do get the tiny seal in the spin-on lid to seal the one between the lid mount and the vessel will usually be leaky. Been there with these, and they are mostly hype. Unless you just have to have a square vessel to fit a certain space, buy buckets with o-ring lids (very common), or metal containers (for rodent issues) and use liners that you can seal. Trash bags work well actually for inside any larger bucket. You can buy a lot of good buckets for the price of a Vittles Vault.

Regular bucket lids with o-rings are much more reliable, cheaper and easier. I gave away two of the overpriced Vittles Vaults as I think they are of limited use, and still own one to remind me not to buy gimmicks again :-)

Dean, what happened to make you this passionate against the Vittles Vault?  Did grain spoil on you?  I've had a good experience with mine thus far.

Dave

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Iostar to measure starch?
« on: November 30, 2012, 08:07:45 AM »
Good info guys, thanks!

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Iostar to measure starch?
« on: November 30, 2012, 06:31:02 AM »
So Jeff, do you perfrom an iodine test on every brew or just those that have a more complex malt bill?

Dave

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Iostar to measure starch?
« on: November 29, 2012, 01:48:23 PM »
I think iodine tests are useful and brewers should know how to do them correctly to troubleshoot mash conversion issues: http://braukaiser.com/wiki/index.php?title=Iodine_Test

Kai

Kai,

What types of conversion issues have you seen?  Are some more common than others?

Dave

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: pitching temp
« on: November 29, 2012, 11:57:21 AM »
Hey Mitch, you've been waiting a while so:  AMEN!   ;D

I go a little cooler with the ales and a little warmer with the lagers (+1-2F) but I'm with ya! 

Dave

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Iostar to measure starch?
« on: November 29, 2012, 11:52:03 AM »
Old guy on the Moonshiners show last night stuck his finger in the mash and held it up in the wind. He said if it's not sticky when it dries, it's ready.

I'd think it should be sticky from the sugars.  Seems like if it's not sticky it hasn't converted.

Who knows where else ol' Jim Tom's finger has been!!!   :P

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All Grain Brewing / Re: 5-gallon vs. 10-gallon cooler?
« on: November 29, 2012, 11:50:22 AM »
Didn't know where the blue cooler comments were coming from until I did a search. I guess I'll have to pay extra for the blue, or my whole future of brewing is doomed to horrible failure ;)

One additional, related question: can a thermometer be installed into a rectangular cooler (the way I've seen in the round ones)? I would think that would be a problem, just given the size of the cooler. If so, how? If not, is the only alternative to periodically check the temp?

Thanks again for all the help. It's nice to know that there are so many helpful people around here.

Yep, all other colors are slightly defective.  Or you could look at it as blue is slightly better!   ;D

BTW-Not sure of your equipment, but a refractometer came late on my brewing wish list, per your earlier post.  There is another thread on equipment upgrades in the equiment section which would be very helpful for you IMO.  If you have everything listed in the thread already though, a refractometer is a very nice to have.....

Dave

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