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Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Shiner Holiday Cheer
« on: December 18, 2015, 03:42:18 PM »
Sadly, I bought 12 of these stupid things. Have 11 left. (12 pack was $1.50 more than a sixer.)

I remembered it being much, much more subtle than what I have now, which who knows if that's true or not. Last time I had it was 2011. Now, well, I'll probably drag them to Christmas so I can get rid of them.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Playing Favorites
« on: December 16, 2015, 08:07:28 AM »
If I can find the experiment I'll post a link. I found it surprising too, but I was already aware that Vienna contributes very little from experience and light Munich isn't that far from Vienna.

$10 says that it was Breiss Pils and Breiss Munich, which are sorry excuses for Pils and Munich.  ;)


But it is of no matter, really. If I can taste the difference between 5% Munich and 7% Munich (or Best Pils and Dingemans Pils... or 10% table sugar and 13% table sugar... etc) in my own beers, then I'll continue to tweak my recipes as such.  8)

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Pimp My System / Re: Redbird Brewhouse - There's Always a Project
« on: December 16, 2015, 05:55:13 AM »
Looks a bit fancy for me. Where's the floor drain?

Looking very much forward to your visit so you can check it out in real life.  :D

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Pics of recent brews?
« on: December 15, 2015, 08:00:18 PM »
Oh you guys are drinking tonight too? :)



A saison dosed with dregs from a 5 year vertical of Boulevard's Saison-Brett, our "KCBM Board Brew" of 2015. :)  What a great brew day that was.

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Pimp My System / Re: Redbird Brewhouse - There's Always a Project
« on: December 15, 2015, 01:38:46 PM »
I love it. Are all those pictures in the same space or is the brewery in the garage and the taproom in the basement.

We have a split level home. I think it's called a front/back split. Idk, I hate these types of houses but it's all that's available around here outside of huge 2 stories.

The sink/Z is in the garage, the bar area is in the "basement" which is on the same level as the garage. The beer storage area is in the "sub basement", which is a half level lower than the garage & bar towards the front of the house.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Playing Favorites
« on: December 14, 2015, 06:03:15 PM »
List your favorite:
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Pilsner malt - Best for ze Germans and Dingemans for my Belgians
Pale malt - Rahr 2-row
Munich malt/Vienna malt - Best Munich II is my favorite for it's depth of flavor, but it's not appropriate in a lot of things
Other Base malts (MO/GP) - I've used a bunch of Crisp, but I'm now loving the TF Maris Otter
Specialty malt(s) - Does Carafa II count? :)
Bittering hops - Herkules for ze Germans, Warrior for pretty much everything else


I don't have strong opinions on the others.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Swap-toberfest '15
« on: December 12, 2015, 10:33:17 PM »
I quite liked it and will do again. I got a chance to connect with other brewers and get to know them outside of their forum name/posts, which is probably the best part for me.

Looking forward to the next one!

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Hochkurz vs 150F - The 'play nice' thread
« on: December 12, 2015, 09:22:08 AM »
How about having everyone give feedback (spider plot?), and then do the triangle test? You could still ask for impressions from correct triangle-testers afterward if you wanted, but the initial input would be blind.

I only vaguely like spider plots, since I haven't seen one that works for all aspects of a beer. I think they're fine for hop comparison and the like, but not so sure on whole-beer analysis. You have one?

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Episode 3 - Experimental Brewing
« on: December 11, 2015, 08:07:27 AM »
I like to pretend that I am saving money. Anytime I buy a piece of equipment, I try to amortize its cost across batches to figure out where my break even is. I have a new kettle and burner on the way, so I won't be saving money for a couple of years.
Mine are depreciated over the amount of time it takes me to forget its new, then I consider it free

Ha. I do the same thing. 'Sunk cost' or some such nonsense.  ;)

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Episode 3 - Experimental Brewing
« on: December 11, 2015, 06:14:26 AM »
Gosh, hearing you guys chat about your poor LHBSs makes me want to go hug my favorite shop owner! We must be spoiled here - 5 LHBS and several new (awesome) breweries opening these past couple of years.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Hochkurz vs 150F - The 'play nice' thread
« on: December 11, 2015, 05:52:51 AM »
I'm intrigued by the idea of knowing the recipe and parameters when taking triangle tests.  If you can focus on the one aspect of the beer, but still have to differentiate between blind samples, so what? It's not ideal for fair judging but I think there could be some benefits for flavor analysis.

That is precisely why I am toying with the idea of taking the 'successful' blind triangle judges and telling them that I'm testing different mashing procedures before they fill out scoresheets. The point of the scoresheets is flavor analysis, not a simple differentiation, so I'm thinking that revealing the general nature without revealing the beers will be the way I go.

Anyone thirsty for some Pilsner? I'm going to take what will probably be the last gravity reading in the primary today as they have dropped clear. Dunkel and Schwarz brew day(s) on Sunday! Woot!! 8)

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Hochkurz vs 150F - The 'play nice' thread
« on: December 10, 2015, 07:23:36 AM »
Any plans to present the beers to blind tasters?

Yes and maybe - I think.  ;D

I haven't yet devised a final plan for getting feedback on these beers. You have said before that knowing the nature of the experiment does not have an effect on the responses, so I don't know that I will hide the variable being tested. I want to have scoresheets filled out for both beers, so people can see what (if any) difference there was.

So maybe I just give each judge a beer (with them knowing the nature of the experiment) without telling them which one it is, and have them write their comments down. Then ask them if they noted a difference. Or do a blind triangle first and then have those that "pass" write scoresheets about the difference, not telling them which one is which.

Thoughts?

Well, I may not have been clear enough. What I found is that revealing the nature of the xBmt after a person has already made their decision on the triangle generally won't cause them to change their mind. There's all kinds of psychological stuff that could explain this, I'm not sure it has much to do with anything other than that, hence we chose to remove it from the survey.

Go blind, that's what I think, then go back and have only those who were correct on the triangle complete the scoresheets.

Thank you for clearing that up for me. I'm just an engineer-type brain, all that psychological stuff is firmly out of my wheelhouse. Which is why I asked you. :) So blind triangle, then those that are correct fill out scoresheets. Would those be blind as well or would I tell them that we are testing different mashing procedures, but not tell them which is which or the type of mashing procedures used?

You think you guys can wait until January for the results? Ha.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Hochkurz vs 150F - The 'play nice' thread
« on: December 09, 2015, 09:14:22 AM »
Any plans to present the beers to blind tasters?

Yes and maybe - I think.  ;D

I haven't yet devised a final plan for getting feedback on these beers. You have said before that knowing the nature of the experiment does not have an effect on the responses, so I don't know that I will hide the variable being tested. I want to have scoresheets filled out for both beers, so people can see what (if any) difference there was.

So maybe I just give each judge a beer (with them knowing the nature of the experiment) without telling them which one it is, and have them write their comments down. Then ask them if they noted a difference. Or do a blind triangle first and then have those that "pass" write scoresheets about the difference, not telling them which one is which.

Thoughts?

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Beer Travel / Re: What You Can Expect After 3 Weeks in Germany.
« on: December 08, 2015, 05:16:47 PM »
Rough life!

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Hochkurz vs 150F - The 'play nice' thread
« on: December 08, 2015, 01:13:08 PM »
Obviously attenuation is much more important - you certainly can't taste efficiency!  ;)

Ah.... but can't you?!  Again, more experiments are needed!  I've been meaning to run such an experiment for a long time, but haven't gotten around to it yet.

Oh, you're evil!  ;D

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