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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 18, 2015, 02:12:37 AM »
Seems to me that most of the arguments about changing the rules can be summed up like this:

"What can we do to make it so the BN doesn't win next year?"

That kind of seems like poor sportsmanship to me.

The consensus in this thread, having just skimmed it, seems to be more along the lines of "What can we do to ensure that clubs of all sizes compete on a level playing field?"
Agreed Sean.

I believe several of us have said something to the effect of "this isn't about the BN, it's about the AHA".

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: How much food do Brett and pedio need?
« on: June 17, 2015, 12:23:51 PM »
Agree with Jim.

Once you have nail polish, there is no no going back. Nail polish is a dumper in my house.

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Brewers at White Labs
« on: June 17, 2015, 12:13:33 PM »
I haven't run the data yet on an xBmt you participated in comparing wlp800 fermented at 50 vs 66, no pressure... plan to get it published on Monday-- 40+ participants from NHC!

I am looking forward to seeing these results.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 16, 2015, 04:31:07 PM »
As a completely neutral observer (don't have a club, don't enter competitions), Amanda's suggestion that there be 3 awards for small, medium, and large clubs makes the most sense. Its fair and it would actually motivate more clubs because every one would have a shot.
If I had time and there was a good one near me I might join a club but it would be to hang out and talk home brewing and do things together. If its not small enough and local enough for me to know everyone in it I personally wouldn't refer to it as a "club". I would consider it an "organization" or "association".

+1  Seems the fairest solution to me.
Fair and neutral is what we should be aiming for, IMO. I'm glad the idea comes off as that.

We can't fault the BN for being perfectly within the rules and winning. When entry limits were put in place, it switched from having many great brewers to just having a lot of brewers. The BN has a lot of brewers, therefore they have been winning. That's all it really is at this point.

Club of the Year shouldn't be about who can field the largest pool of brewers, but until the rules change, that's what it will be.

FWIW, I already sent my suggestions to someone I know on the AHA Comp sub committee. I encourage you all to do the same (but only if you keep a level head about it - shouting at volunteers is never good form).

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: My journal of NHC 2015
« on: June 16, 2015, 12:18:16 PM »
It was great putting names to faces!  Saw lots of old friends and made a bunch of new ones.
Had a great time on the bus on the way to BNA with you Brulosopher.
Great meeting you too, Amanda.
Hope to see you guys all again next year.

Very good to meet you as well, Steve. Great to put a face to the other half of the CEP team!  :)

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: All this talk about COTY... :)
« on: June 16, 2015, 11:57:44 AM »
Awesome. I love archival stuff too.

I gotta get them to start up again with the Bier Notes. It's such a great way to preserve history.

I think my favorite one is the very first one in May 1983, before they even had a name. It was just called "Beer Club".  8)

The Pub / Re: If I could bother my friends here for a little help...
« on: June 16, 2015, 03:21:40 AM »

General Homebrew Discussion / All this talk about COTY... :)
« on: June 16, 2015, 02:15:31 AM »
I started digging through my club's old Bier Notes and found a few of the issues around when they won Club of the Year in 2000.

Check out how nonchalantly they organize what beers people should brew:

And then the party after they won:

Anyway, I just get a kick out of these old newsletters. :) Thought I would share. We used to have some epic speakers for our annual competition too... Charlie P. came in 2003 and Ken Schramm came in 2009. Reading about the past is like a who's who of the homebrewing greats, pretty entertaining.

PS: KC Bier Meisters is my club for those on Tapatalk.

Events / Re: 2015 NHC Impressions
« on: June 15, 2015, 10:42:54 PM »

  I'll be honest; I was floating on Alpine Duet when I walked in and only even tasted the last of the 4 beers.  That one was certainly lackluster.   

And you were judging me for drinking a ton of Duet! Haha.

I gotta say, a great perk of being a BJCP judge is the beer at the events they put on at NHC. Utopian (plus 3 other Moonlight meads!) and Tart of Darkness on Wednesday, Duet on Saturday. Not too shabby.

Yeah, that last pairing was pretty poor. That beer was way too bitter for the dessert. I drank Pils with my dessert.

And for the record, I make better short ribs. ;) But... I certainly don't make them for 3000 people! Geez, could you imagine the plating team involved in that?

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 15, 2015, 09:37:43 PM »
Amanda, will direct message you the statement, as it will totally derail this thread.

I would also post what was said to me at Club Night, but it would also derail the thread. Let's just say that someone got an earful from me after they were done talking.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 15, 2015, 09:18:10 PM »
I'm a member of the 1997 Club Of The Year.
it was accomplished with less than 20 members...times have sure changed, eh?!

KCBM won CotY in 2000 with about 8-10 people actually entering in a club of about 30.  ;)

So we had aimed for Gambrinus instead.  Finished close 2nd, way ahead of 3rd place, and would have won, if some brand-new brewers hadn't insisted on entering poor batches.  (Whatever; I can't exactly bar them from entering.)  Next year we'll try for Gambrinus again.

My point exactly. You can't really tell people not to enter - that would obviously be a d*ck move.

P.S. - I'm taking applications if any Midwest superclubs are forming and recruiting.    ;)

If nothing changes, I think it'll happen this year. We just need an epic name! ;) (That doesn't bash the BN - they aren't the cause of this.)

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 15, 2015, 09:04:15 PM »
Justin got an earful at the AHA Member meeting - I hope he really takes it to heart as well as the AHA leadership. You want diversity? Start treating every brewer with respect a person deserves.

Out of curiosity, what was said at the AHA Member meeting to Justin? I was out grabbing dinner somewhere much better than the hotel.  ;)

And April, here's a small portion of what I sent to someone on the AHA GC Comp Committee regarding the Gambrinus Award:
Quote from:  my emailz
Yes, there is the Gambrinus Award, which is basically a winning % game. However, if you think about that award in any detail your club either has to be extremely lucky to have only award winning brewers in your club entering NHC or you have to instruct the less-high-quality brewers to simply not enter the NHC for the sake of winning. And how crappy would that be? For a club like ours, we have many people who are consistent award winners and we also have many people who are just starting out. Could you imagine how poorly that would make some people feel if we were to actually try and make a run at the Gambrinus by way of telling some people not to enter?? That would be terrible.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 15, 2015, 07:38:57 PM »
Why not just get rid of the first round medals in the Homebrew Club of the Year tally, and only count second round medals? The way it was done in 2012 and before.

My understanding is that first round is only meant to whittle down the entries for the final round, not be a standalone competition.

I wouldn't have as much of an issue with BN winning club of the year if they also won the most second round medals. By my count, Austin Zealots would have won COTY by 2012 rules.

2015: AZ = 20 pts, SP = 18 pts, BN = 10 pts

But that's not how it used to work. There was a Club Only Competition circuit that counted to the point totals, which was held multiple times throughout the year and had different categories each time.

Homebrewer Bios / Re: elburko25's bio
« on: June 15, 2015, 06:51:37 PM »
Welcome Myles.  Met you guys briefly in Grand Rapids and I've sent entries to the KCBM comp the past 2 years.

Does Amanda call the bar the "batters box" since she seems more of a baseball fan?

Nah, he let me keep the "Redbird Brewhouse" as the brewery name, so "The Penalty Box" is the bar name.  ;)

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: My journal of NHC 2015
« on: June 15, 2015, 06:50:16 PM »
poo beer

Hahahahahaha.  ;D

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