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Beer Recipes / Re: First Recipe design
« on: April 08, 2015, 01:01:53 PM »
I'd throw in DFH, too. Very sweet IPAs. Sickly, as Denny would say.

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Beer Recipes / Re: First Recipe design
« on: April 08, 2015, 12:53:46 PM »
The whole idea of balance in IPA is subjective and kind of a head scratcher to me anyway.  The 2008 BJCP guidelines for AIPA describe hop aroma as "prominent to intense" and hop flavor as "medium to high". I don't by any means want a glass of hop tea for an IPA, but I also don't agree that it should be an overly crystally dry hopped American Amber. Every style of beer has its own version of balance relative to its characteristics.
And a good very hoppy West Coast IPA is actually balanced in that there needs to be enough malt to carry that much flavor. You don't perceive it as "malty" but you sure do notice the lack of it in one of those god awful "session" IPA's. (Another chance for me to trash those 8))

Yep.  That's the real problem with most of those - not enough OG/body to support the hops.

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Beer Recipes / Re: First Recipe design
« on: April 08, 2015, 12:25:38 PM »
The whole idea of balance in IPA is subjective and kind of a head scratcher to me anyway.  The 2008 BJCP guidelines for AIPA describe hop aroma as "prominent to intense" and hop flavor as "medium to high". I don't by any means want a glass of hop tea for an IPA, but I also don't agree that it should be an overly crystally dry hopped American Amber. Every style of beer has its own version of balance relative to its characteristics.

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Ingredients / Re: New Hop Question
« on: April 08, 2015, 10:51:40 AM »
I find most hops don't do well as a single hopped IPA. Layering of flavors and aromas is key. Some hops certainly make great single hop IPAs. Mosaic makes an incredible single hops and I find I don't have to over do it with the late additions or dry hops.

I agree.  I like to blend for IPA too, but there are a few that stand alone pretty well, like Mosaic and Equinox. And when that SN single hop Idaho 7 gets to retail, that's another one I'd definitely use alone.

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Beer Recipes / Re: First Recipe design
« on: April 08, 2015, 09:46:44 AM »
I find most West Coast-style IPAs to be unbalanced aroma/flavor hop forward beers.

You say that like it's a bad thing.  IMO, most East Coast IPAs are unbalanced in regard to malt.  Just a question of how you look at it.

Agreed. 

+2.  Too malty/crystally/underattenuated in IPA is still unbalanced.  I like a firm malt base for IPA, but as for West Coast IPAs being "aroma and flavor hop forward" - I agree. That's what I shoot for.

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Ingredients / Re: New Hop Question
« on: April 08, 2015, 07:24:41 AM »
I used Lemon Drop recently in an American Wheat and couldn't be happier.  The flavors and aromas were just as described.  I think it would work well in a saison.  I also did a single hopped ipa (with magnum for bittering) and didn't think it worked great as a single hop for a beer like that.

Yeah, I see it more as a great APA hop or something to be blended with for IPA. Really like it, though.

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Beer Recipes / Re: Summer Ale?
« on: April 08, 2015, 06:29:40 AM »
Looks like a nice summer beer to me. Depending on how much hop flavor you want, you could bump the 10 min and FO hops to 1/2 oz, or just leave as is. It'll be good either way. As for Mt Hood, I really like it but standard Hallertau is obviously nice, too. Good luck !

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Ingredients / Re: flaked oats
« on: April 08, 2015, 06:21:20 AM »
+1 to quick oats. No issues.

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Ingredients / Re: New Hop Question
« on: April 08, 2015, 04:48:35 AM »
I like Lemon Drop quite a bit better.  It's moderate AA (5-7% IIRC)  and is lemon/citrus/herbal/slight pine where El Dorado is mostly Jolly Rancher candy to me. Lemon Drop works well in American styles , but would work great in a saison, too. It's another new hop I think is gonna catch on. Good stuff.


EDIT -  Though the new Stone Delicious IPA uses a blend of the two hops and is very good. The sweet candy character of the El Dorado gets balanced out pretty well by the Lemon Drop.

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Beer Recipes / Re: First Recipe design
« on: April 08, 2015, 04:40:57 AM »
Yeah, west Coast IPAs are "unbalanced" compared to east Coast IPAs the way a 1970 GTO "Judge" is unbalanced next to a 1981 Ford Fairmont.

Awesome.  ;D    Obviously, +1.   

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The Pub / Re: Happy National Beer Day!
« on: April 07, 2015, 05:36:02 PM »
Celebrated with h a free shly tappd Saison Rye with Nelson, really pleased

That sounds pretty tasty !

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The Pub / Re: Happy National Beer Day!
« on: April 07, 2015, 04:41:21 PM »
Celebrated with a Nooner (good stuff) at a pub, and to be sure I hadn't forgotten to celebrate, I had one of my new APAs when I got home. In light of the thread on how APAs run the gamut stylistically, who knows how it would score. Who cares, it's pretty damn good. 

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Beer Recipes / Re: First Recipe design
« on: April 07, 2015, 02:55:09 PM »
I like a little victory in my IPA - key is a "little" I don't think you want that and special roast.

Also, east coast or not, you need more flame out hops.

Yep

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: No signs of fermentation
« on: April 07, 2015, 02:48:01 PM »
Jim you forgot RDWHAHB.
I would, but its his first... he'd have to borrow one.

Good point, man. You have to brew one to be able to relax and have one.  ;D

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The Pub / Re: Happy National Beer Day!
« on: April 07, 2015, 12:20:51 PM »
Ok, you guys sold me. I think I'll go home and have a beer.    ;)

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