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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: German Lager Strain
« on: January 25, 2017, 03:26:50 PM »
2206 is my favorite all around lager strain. Attenuates well, with nonetheless a malty finish, and actually flocs well compared to some of the powdery ones. I've switched to it in the last year and will probably stick with it. I do like 2633 as mentioned and have
used a ton of 2124. I prefer 2206.


Edit - I'd like to try 2352 or LagerX strain at some point though.

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My imaginary brewery has a beer hopped with Unicorn farts.  It's not very good, only a 2.9 on imaginarybeeradvocate.com


Awesome.  Beats my dry beaver anal-glanded brown ale. That one only scored 2.4 . Damn hipsters can't rate anything right.

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I guess it's still imaginary...
http://www.cedarislandbrewing.com/beer-list/



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Whoa, nice!  How soon?

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Beer Recipes / Re: Looking for a good Dry Stout recipe
« on: January 24, 2017, 05:21:39 PM »
Thanks again Jon

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You bet!  Be sure to post if you brew it up.

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Beer Recipes / Re: Looking for a good Dry Stout recipe
« on: January 24, 2017, 05:12:44 PM »
Jon, when you make it, do you follow his original recipe, or are you mashing the roasted barley in with the rest? Do you make any adjustments for that if you mash it all together?

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I only did his once and I used his recipe and process to the letter. Came out outstanding. I normally brew my American stout but I need to revisit that one. It's legit Irish stout.

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Beer Recipes / Re: Looking for a good Dry Stout recipe
« on: January 24, 2017, 04:54:37 PM »
That made it so much easier to track down

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Yeah, I forgot the article went back that far. I was digging!

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Beer Recipes / Re: Looking for a good Dry Stout recipe
« on: January 24, 2017, 04:48:11 PM »
Anyone remember when Martin's article was? I can never get Zym app to work very well on my phone. I'm sure I have hard copy, just looking for someone to point me in the right direction

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November/December 2013 Zymurgy, Frank. Good stuff.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Making Norther Brewers "Off the Topper" Juicy?
« on: January 24, 2017, 04:37:31 PM »

Totally agree. I don't judge or care how someone brews - the whole different goals, available time, etc, thing . But those of us who are interested in the info are entitled to read it without the same redundant noise. It's become like the movie Groundhog Day played nonstop at this point. Not gonna lie - arguments (vehement or not) against ANYTHING don't carry much weight when the protester hasn't actually tried the entire process. Brew and let brew (might have been a James Bond movie title. Or not).

Homebrewers are generally a very sensitive bunch.  This is one of the reasons why I have a very limited attention span for homebrew forums.  If the collective had thicker skin, maybe I would disappear less often.

The basic context of this LODO acceptance problem is one camp has a brewing method validated by science and they think it makes the "best beer" because science and opinion.  They need to be reminded that the term "best beer" is not something science can determine.

The other camp makes beer they really enjoy drinking and maybe they have won some awards to validate the quality of their beer.  If they make beer that they honestly think can't be improved, then I guess I can relate to their contempt for a process they think they don't need.

I'm absolutely certain both camps believe they make great beer.  There are many, many ways to make great beer and they don't necessarily need to be supported by science.

Blanket dismissals of the LODO process doesn't invalidate it's legitimacy.  I'm semi-LODO and can't think of any reason to introduce more DO into my beer based on science and subjective taste. 




I don't disagree. There are a lot of approaches to brewing, most of which make good beer. I'm probably considered semi lodo at this point too , with some more equipment upgrades needed to reduce O2 further. I see it as similar to the game of baseball, in that you can make it as simple or as complicated as you like. Pretty hard to argue that O2 in beer isn't something to at least try to reduce, at the very least.

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IPA is a victim of its own success. It's fairly easy to brew a decent, mediocre at best IPA. And that's evidently enough for a lot of breweries. Young craft drinkers, whose goal is more number of pints than quality, taste a hoppy beer and assume it's good. Brewer brews more. Rinse and repeat. A great IPA is much harder to brew and less often strived for unfortunately. Hopefully drinkers' palates evolve as more time goes by.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Making Norther Brewers "Off the Topper" Juicy?
« on: January 24, 2017, 03:26:46 PM »
If you don't think LODO is beneficial based on whatever, there is no need to be defensive every time it's mentioned.  It's a valid brewing technique that is validated by rigorous science.



Totally agree. I don't judge or care how someone brews - the whole different goals, available time, etc, thing . But those of us who are interested in the info are entitled to read it without the same redundant noise. It's become like the movie Groundhog Day played nonstop at this point. Not gonna lie - arguments (vehement or not) against ANYTHING don't carry much weight when the protester hasn't actually tried the entire process. Brew and let brew (might have been a James Bond movie title. Or not).

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Homebrewer Bios / Re: Just a quick hello...
« on: January 24, 2017, 09:53:18 AM »
Welcome, Glenn! Lots of good folks here.

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Achouffe strain
« on: January 24, 2017, 08:18:21 AM »
It flocs fairly well compared to most other Belgian strains. Definitely not as powdery as some.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Introduction to Low Oxygen Brewing
« on: January 24, 2017, 07:46:47 AM »
I'm also curious how it compares to something like a beer gun.  Do you have any measured data on how bad the results are for those "blow purge" and fill systems?

I do, beer gun is at about .4-.6ppm DO. Maximum Bottling limit is .15ppm. At that rate(.4-.6) you will see oxidation results in about a week or less.


Bryan, I'm pretty sure I've asked, but that is even with purging the bottles thoroughly first, right?

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The Pub / Re: Songs you never want to hear again.
« on: January 24, 2017, 07:32:04 AM »
I am blessed with the ability to listen to music ironically, so bad songs don't anger me I usually thumbs down songs on Pandora just because I'm sick of them.
That being said a few pet peeves:
I had a couple groups of friends growing up. My metal head friends and I had a saying: "A little Bob Segar is too much Bob Segar"
I have the same feelings regarding JourneyStyxForeigneretc.
A really bad song: "Dust in the Wind". I think that maudlin sentimentality is what sums up all that is wrong about the era and those bands.I give Boston a pass, they had their own thing going on.
Drunk, drugged Aerosmith writing their own songs: good
Sober Aerosmith with a commercial songwriter: bad
Always hated hairbands from day one. I was a teen in the eighties and hated what was available for contemporary music except a few like SRV and Metallica. GnR's Appetite for Destruction was a nice break in the late eighties but mostly I listened to classic rock and went to see those bands who were still around.
I remember switching between station when hairbands were big and all of a sudden I heard Smells Like Teen Spirit" and said WTF is this. Thanks to grunge and other hard rock like AIC, Soundgarden, STP, etc I could listen to current bands again although no time for concerts with a baby and Law School.
Some worst offenders: "Living on a Prayer", "Every Rose has a Thorn" and whatever it was Cinderella did. It's fun to watch the videos ironically though.
I don't hate the Eagles but given that they are the best selling American "rock" band ever they are vastly overrated.
Lastly, I love Led Zeppelin. They may be my favorite band. But I wish "Thank You" never saw the light of day.
To sum it up, I hate maudlin BS in all its forms.



It's hard for me to agree more with all of this, Pete. Especially with the drunk/high Aerosmith being fantastic, sober Aerosmith becoming 'REOStyxJourneyWagon' (paraphrasing there  :) ). The early nineties grunge stuff obliterating the s#^**y hair metal was a great resurgence for rock. Felt like a victory for me. In short, it's like you read my mind.

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Beer Recipes / Re: Firestone Wookey Jack
« on: January 23, 2017, 07:34:00 PM »
Well it explains why Solo wears a 70s vest and turtleneck. Han and Chewy obviously met in Eugene, Oregon



Clearly.    ;D

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