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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: medicinal bite - astringency?
« on: October 27, 2017, 02:54:46 PM »
The character I'm referring to is a harsh, vegetal bitterness more than astringency. It may be that Polyclar helps diminish this (I haven't done a side-by-side to compare relative amounts of this character), but it certainly doesn't eliminate it in my experience.

The fine hop particle idea jives with my experience that whole cone hops don't cause this issue. My only issue with this is that in my experience this harsh bitterness never fully goes away. You would think that particles in suspension would drop out completely if given enough time.


This is something I have run into in the past with keg hopping - not so much medicinal astringency per se as noticing very fine hop particles that made their way through a strainer bag, giving the beer the vegetal, harsh character you mention. I don't blame the strainer bag solely, more the bag sinking down near the dip tube and the suction created through the dip tube pulling those particles from the bag.

The solution for keg hoppers IMO is using the Clear Beer Draft System, which allows you to pull the dip tube, weight the hop bag to the bottom, and draw beer from the top of the keg well away from the bag. Not to mention the beer at the top of the keg is always clearer than the beer on the bottom (barring hazy or deliberately hazed styles). Regardless, I'm noticing a huge dropoff in harsh particulate and getting clearer beer quicker, with no more gelatin.

Combining this draft system with keg hops (on the bottom) and spunding to purge the keg completely during the dry hop period has solved the dry hopping conundrum for me. $0.02  .

http://www.clearbeerdraughtsystem.com/

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Pics of recent brews?
« on: October 26, 2017, 06:47:10 PM »
Thanks guys.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Pics of recent brews?
« on: October 26, 2017, 04:01:34 PM »
"Mositracoe" IPA. An awesome beer. The changes I've slowly made to my process, recipe, and water chemistry have produced an IPA that holds hop character much longer than ever and is just better than IPAs I can find - anywhere. Rarely even bother to buy them anymore. Pretty psyched.   :)



Awesome Jon.  Mosaic, Citra, Simcoe?  Sure looks tasty. 

  "If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world."




Yep, those are the ones. Thanks.


1.064 OG
65 IBU-ish
1.010 FG

94% Rahr 2 row
3.5% Carahell
2.5% Caramunich II

65 IBU Warrior (this time, had on hand) - 60 mins
2.5 oz each Mosaic, Citra, Simcoe - 175F steep, 45 mins.  Given 5.5 gallon batch.
1.66 oz each of same, dry - keg hopped

1056

Closer to Yellow Bitter profile




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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Pics of recent brews?
« on: October 26, 2017, 03:37:53 PM »
"Mositracoe" IPA. An awesome beer. The changes I've slowly made to my process, recipe, and water chemistry have produced an IPA that holds hop character much longer than ever and is just better than IPAs I can find - anywhere. Rarely even bother to buy them anymore. Pretty psyched.   :)



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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: medicinal bite
« on: October 26, 2017, 09:43:48 AM »
No mention of the use of polyclar in this thread?  WOW.  For NEIPA use it in the WP 10m to KO. 

Haze active (low molecular) proteins should in theory combine with polyphenols and drop out making the beer less astringent.  That said, I don't buy into the hazy is better thing.

Erock mentioned that the use of polyclar did nothing to help reduce this issue above....


Missed that part. Busy work days + reading posts quickly = operator error sometimes.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: medicinal bite
« on: October 26, 2017, 09:37:39 AM »
No mention of the use of polyclar in this thread?  WOW.  For NEIPA use it in the WP 10m to KO. 

Haze active (low molecular) proteins should in theory combine with polyphenols and drop out making the beer less astringent.  That said, I don't buy into the hazy is better thing.



I considered posting on it, but the PVPP might make a NEIPA  look clearer, ie., like a 'boring' ole AIPA.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Pics of recent brews?
« on: October 25, 2017, 03:06:56 PM »
Looks great!

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Beer Recipes / Re: Mt Hood APA/IPA
« on: October 24, 2017, 05:07:54 PM »
Azacca is the mildest of those and would work great 1:1 . It'd be my pick. Equinox deserves the praise but is much stronger than Mt Hood, so 3:1 would be better there. Any of those could work nicely, though I'd rank El Dorado last with Mt Hood.

Edit - For 5 gallons,  I like 5 oz-ish to keg dry hop IPA, Frank. 2.5 ish oz for APA.
Thanks Jon, looks like I need to find my Azacca

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If you use it I'll be curious to see how it comes out!

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Beer Recipes / Re: Mt Hood APA/IPA
« on: October 24, 2017, 03:56:24 PM »
Azacca is the mildest of those and would work great 1:1 . It'd be my pick. Equinox deserves the praise but is much stronger than Mt Hood, so 3:1 would be better there. Any of those could work nicely, though I'd rank El Dorado last with Mt Hood.

Edit - For 5 gallons,  I like 5 oz-ish to keg dry hop IPA, Frank. 2.5 ish oz for APA.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Darkening Malt
« on: October 23, 2017, 10:04:26 AM »
Midnight Wheat is supposedly totally free of husks.



That's my understanding too. Which explains it being by far the mildest black malt IMO.

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Kegging and Bottling / Re: A Sneak Peek
« on: October 23, 2017, 04:18:49 AM »
Looks awesome, Sean!

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All Things Food / Re: Why buy a 22" WSM
« on: October 22, 2017, 11:57:17 AM »
Just put some bacon 🥓 on the smoker that’s been curing for ten daze




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Oh yeah. Looks awesome. 

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: medicinal bite
« on: October 21, 2017, 02:48:00 PM »
Many people have noted harsh, unpleasant polyphenols from the high late hopping in NEIPA.  Could that be it?

Kind of my assumption however 4 oz at the end of the boil and 6 oz dry is nothing compared to what a lot of people use. Are you referring to the hops at the end of the boil?


I don't brew NEIPAs (as of yet), but that level of late and dry hopping isn't out of line with my hopping and I don't get medicinal character from an 8 oz hop stand and 5 oz dry (or more on each). So I don't think it's the hopping in and of itself. Not being a NEIPA brewer, I don't know the interplay between the higher levels of oats and other ingredients including higher CaCl2 levels. 1056/001/05 should be no factor. Any chance of infection? Medicinal fits there.


Edit -  Or maybe it's a different beer in a week as it sits and mellows/comes together. Be sure to post how it comes out. Sorry not to be more help.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: What's Brewing this Weekend?
« on: October 20, 2017, 05:07:04 PM »
Doing my tweaked version of Janet's Brown with 1450 tomorrow. A really good fall beer.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Darkening Malt
« on: October 19, 2017, 07:16:59 PM »
I am trying to find out what malt others use to darken beer but without any flavor added. I have heard using carafa special II, but I tried in vorlaug but had it grind to a powder and I get the roasty bitter flavor. I want something that has NO roast. Any ideas.

Erik


Midnight Wheat, being huskless, has the least roast of any black malt. It's very, very mild. Past that, Sinamar from morebeer or others is used by some breweries to adjust color and is basically flavorless. I've used both with good results.

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