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Beer Recipes / Re: Wine Kit Saison
« on: March 08, 2017, 11:27:32 AM »
I have meant to try this for a couple years and haven't. I want to do it this year. I've been thinking Moscato might give a subtle sweetness to the dry finish.

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Yeast Vault
« on: March 08, 2017, 10:54:41 AM »
I'd definitely like to try the 835 and Saison blend.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Is a 90 Min boil needed?
« on: March 08, 2017, 10:36:54 AM »
I've had some raw ales as well, and while some have had some subtley strange flavor component I couldn't nail down. I wasn't sure if it was just a higher protein content due to no hot/cold break, or if it was some dms just above threshold..

How did he get the necessary bitterness? Did he use a hop tea or a >180F non-boil whirlpool?


That was my question - the effects on the beer of the excess proteins/no hot or cold break. Interesting.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Container for Holding Grain
« on: March 08, 2017, 08:44:48 AM »
Another vote for Vittle Vaults.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Is a 90 Min boil needed?
« on: March 08, 2017, 08:42:52 AM »
I love Green Chili...just not in beer lol.


Agreed. Each his own.

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The Pub / Re: Songs you never want to hear again.
« on: March 07, 2017, 06:51:49 AM »
I'm afraid metal has not withstood the test of time, I find it kind of sterile now, including stuff I loved in the late 80's.
Soundgarden et al has, however withstood the test of time for me.



I feel the same, Pete. I do love Soundgarden and a few other early 90s bands. Great music. As for the true metal stuff, I guess I'm too old now (or less pissed off).   :)
Jon, when I realized metal wasn't doing it for me anymore, I found old school punk fit the bill nicely. I think becoming a fan of punk in my late 30's to fit that theme, and it fills my need for loud and fast. It's also a great genre to vent grustrations and the anger you speak of. 2 compilations did it for me: XXX records "XXXile on Main Street" (sorry for any Stones fans) and Fat Wreckords(sp?) "Short music for short people" really got me going. I really miss the punk channel on Sirius, but not sirius

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Yeah, I'm a big punk fan as well. I love the energy.

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Ingredients / Re: How many ounces of hops in your American IPA?
« on: March 06, 2017, 03:38:48 PM »
Thanks, Sean. I know it sounds like a crazy amount but I'll say in my defense that, if you look at Kelsey McNair's recipe (maybe from his NHC presentation?) , his hop schedule is on a par with mine. And he's done ok with his IPAs.  Or actually the Le Cumbre  recipes posted in Zymurgy - IIRC theirs used more. It's funny, I get one of those out of my system and it's on to kolsch and lagers for awhile.  ;D

I've been looking at some pseudo-canonical recipes and I'm just having a terminology hangup - I brew ~8% beers with around 4 lb/bbl pretty frequently but I tend to think of them as IIPAs. My "IPAs" that I almost always have on tap run around 6.2-6.5% and 8 oz hops per 5 gal. I go to La Cumbre every chance I get, but I don't think I've ever had two Elevated IPAs.

I just read the Kelsey McNair presentation and since I recently stocked up on hops, I think I'll try to slip something in that vein but with your hop schedule into the rotation. If my math checks out, his recipe is just over 10 oz per 5 gal, and other than the malt bill being lighter (no Munich) actually looks a lot like my IIPAs. I maintain that my low boil temperature means I get more flavor and aroma out of my hops though. ;)


Cool, been a while since I looked at his presentation. I thought I read a reference somewhere to one where he used more. The Project Dank from Le Cumbre recipe uses 18 oz after checking. Regardless, balancing the hops somewhat is the step after.  :)

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Ingredients / Re: How many ounces of hops in your American IPA?
« on: March 06, 2017, 01:19:09 PM »
14-16ish.

However many oz of Chinook or Columbus it takes to hit 70 IBU @ 60 mins. Then 8-10 oz in a 170F whirlpool/stand. 5-6 oz dry.

Edit - should've added for 5.5 gallons.

WOW!  I don't think I've ever used even half that much. I need to try your IPA!

Having had a couple of Jon's APAs I can tell you it's well worth your time.

I just went through all my notes and 16 oz is the most hops I've ever used in a 5 gal batch - and that was a 14% ABV triple IPA. :o


Thanks, Sean. I know it sounds like a crazy amount but I'll say in my defense that, if you look at Kelsey McNair's recipe (maybe from his NHC presentation?) , his hop schedule is on a par with mine. And he's done ok with his IPAs.  Or actually the Le Cumbre  recipes posted in Zymurgy - IIRC theirs used more. It's funny, I get one of those out of my system and it's on to kolsch and lagers for awhile.  ;D

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Ingredients / Re: How many ounces of hops in your American IPA?
« on: March 06, 2017, 10:49:51 AM »
14-16ish.

However many oz of Chinook or Columbus it takes to hit 70 IBU @ 60 mins. Then 8-10 oz in a 170F whirlpool/stand. 5-6 oz dry.

Edit - should've added for 5.5 gallons.

WOW!  I don't think I've ever used even half that much. I need to try your IPA!



I'd love to share one with ya !

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Ingredients / Re: How many ounces of hops in your American IPA?
« on: March 06, 2017, 10:16:15 AM »
14-16ish.

However many oz of Chinook or Columbus it takes to hit 70 IBU @ 60 mins. Then 8-10 oz in a 170F whirlpool/stand. 5-6 oz dry.

Edit - should've added for 5.5 gallons.

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The Pub / Re: Songs you never want to hear again.
« on: March 06, 2017, 09:47:01 AM »
I'm afraid metal has not withstood the test of time, I find it kind of sterile now, including stuff I loved in the late 80's.
Soundgarden et al has, however withstood the test of time for me.



I feel the same, Pete. I do love Soundgarden and a few other early 90s bands. Great music. As for the true metal stuff, I guess I'm too old now (or less pissed off).   :)

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Pics of recent brews?
« on: March 06, 2017, 09:25:35 AM »
JT, that's where it comes in handy IMO - adjusting color in a style like that without picking up any extra roast flavor.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Pics of recent brews?
« on: March 06, 2017, 09:09:48 AM »
My Dunkel cleared out nicely. Let's see how it fares @ NHC. Regardless, it's pretty darn good.




Do you have the recipe posted somewhere? I've been thinking about brewing one. Yours looks great.



I think so, somewhere. No big deal, here it is.Enjoy! :

OG 1.052
FG 1.010
IBU 22.4 - all @ 60 mins. I used Mittelfrueh.
SRM 16.2

78.5% Barke Munich (9L-ish)
6.4%   Barke Pils
6.4%   Weyermann Pale Ale
4.8%   Caramunich II
3%      Flaked Barley
1%      Carafa II
Sinamar to adjust to 16ish SRM -  I used 15.4g for 5.5 gallons

Step mashed @ 5.2 pH

WY 2206 - I used 1/2 a yeast cake,collected from a previous pitch.

I pitched and held 46F throughout. FG in under a week.

There ya go!
Great looking beer, makes me want a dunkel!  Let's talk about Sinamar.  When do you add it?  Any treatment before adding?  What is the flavor contribution, pH impact, etc?

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Thanks. As for Sinamar, I added at the end of the boil, no treatment prior to adding. No flavor impact that I can discern. As for pH , I didn't account for it in software, being such a small amount. I didn't check pH here but would be curious. IIRC it's prepared similar to lme/dme so I assume there is some pH control in the manufacturing. Need to check next time. It's a good beer.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Top 3 - Bottom 3
« on: March 06, 2017, 07:22:50 AM »
Honorable mention: A BLUE cooler for mashing. The blue cooler obviously increased my mash efficiency to approximately 247%.

For sure, and that's a conservative estimate.  :)

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The Pub / Re: Songs you never want to hear again.
« on: March 06, 2017, 07:19:51 AM »
Almost bought tickets to see Iron Maiden this tour...opted to go see the Metallica tour instead. Stoked to see A7X and Volbeat. Iron Maiden's supporting act, Ghost, can't hold a candle to those two.

That's true, but I've seen Metallica enough in their prime to be indifferent to seeing them now (saw them a few years ago at Voodoo Fest even). Paying the price of tickets today, I want to be excited to see the headliner. The opening act is a tiny part of my decision. Metallica can't hold a candle to Maiden at this moment. Back in the early 90s maybe, but now, not even a close decision.

I completely agree about Maiden being the hottest of all the bands mentioned here...but that's why they got stuck touring with Ghost IMO. To me, Volbeat/A7X/Metallica is the better package, even though though none of them individually will be better than Maiden.

Hopefully Maiden will come back soon. I'm still pissed they got stuck touring with Ghost, this will be the closest they've come to me in I think about 4 years.


Maybe not as metal but I bought tickets yesterday to see Soundgarden in Indy in May. One of my very favorite hard rock bands of the 90s (late 80s as well). Their music still holds up extremely well IMO. Get to relive my younger years. ;)  In the metal vein, I saw Metallica 5 times in their heyday, once in a club of maybe 400 people when Ride The Lightning came out. Cool stuff.
Jon, the Soundgarden show sounds awesome, but my SO is not a fan so I won't be catching them this time around. As far as Mettalica goes, I first saw them in 1988 for Van Halen's Monsters of Rock tour: Kingdom Come, Dokken, Mettalica, Scorpions, and Van Halen. I was not a fan before that, but Mettalica definitely stole the show. I saw them another 2 or 3 times after that. Have not liked much since And Justice for all, so not likely to see them again anytime soon.

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I saw the Monsters of Rock tour, too, Frank. I agree, I liked their albums from Justice on back better, too.

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