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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Bias in BJCP judging?
« on: March 01, 2014, 11:53:57 PM »
you said some other stuff, but that's what I took from your post.

No, it gets worse.  The BCJP judges at my table could not tell the difference between acetaldehyde and ethyl heptanoate (the condensation ethanol and heptanoic acid). They flagged a really nice sweet smelling beer as suffering from acetaldehyde.   I said, "are you sure that you do not grape?"  That's when everyone at the table noticed it.  One said,"I smell Concord grape."  I said, "Bingo! You just smelled ethyl heptanoate."   Silence fell over the room because no one had heard of that ester.  Ethyl heptonaote is the ester that is used in artificial grape flavoring. Ethyl heptanoate smells like Concord grape or grape lollipop.    Many heirloom British yeast strains produce this ester.

With that said, the major problem that I have with this situation is that inexperienced brewers tend to take contest remarks as gospel.  Flagging ethyl heptanoate as acetaldehyde is a major faux pas that only confuses the entrant. 

Sounds like you had some very insightful knowledge to share. Like I said, get involved, or stay involved. You can help make the competitions in your area better.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Bias in BJCP judging?
« on: March 01, 2014, 06:23:07 PM »
Anytime you get one set of criteria and two humans to apply that criteria you will get 3 different opinions.

The best way to influence judging is to become one. I am a novice, but I have judged for a number of competitions and I have entered many more. You can look at your score sheets. The BJCP judges are always identified by their ID number. In many cases, it has not been the BJCP judge giving my beer the lowest score, but rather a non BJCP participant, and I know that they are not the lead.   I have also strongly disagreed with the score at a table where I was judging. I was allowed to present my argument and the lead judge altered his score to bring our table scores to within the 7 point requirement.

Judging is hard work. I personally do not enjoy it. 98% of the judges I've worked with take the job VERY seriously, work hard and try to render helpful, fair and objective scoresheets. You may have met one of the 2%, I don't know, but don't condemn the process based on this one experience. Get more involved.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: "Wet Hopping"
« on: March 01, 2014, 12:30:57 PM »
I use muslin bags for dry hops and just toss 'em after I use them. 

OK, we're even. You win pragmatic and I win cheap. xxx

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: "Wet Hopping"
« on: March 01, 2014, 11:44:49 AM »
My hop bags are utterly disgusting looking. Many, many batches of beer under their drawstrings. I toss 'em in a bowl of Star San for a few minutes, wring 'em out then add the hops, a weight and toss 'em into the fermenter or keg, where ever I want the hops. Seriously.....never a problem.  I even (shame on me) neglected to clean them immediately after use one time and they molded. Scraped the mold off, washed and bleached the bags and I continue to use them.

I would never worry about contamination of a beer just through adding hops...remember, when dry hopping there's alcohol in there already and the hops are recognized as having antibacterial properties.

Equipment and Software / Re: Yet another mill setup
« on: February 23, 2014, 10:20:59 AM »
Oh my, if you have been using a Corona Mill all this time, you're gonna be in heaven with the new set up.
Less time, better crush, better efficiency.

You're build looks very ....dare we say.....pragmatic. Clean, simple, efficient, cost effective. Good job.

Ingredients / Re: Fermcap-AT
« on: February 22, 2014, 02:42:40 PM »
Ah, that I get. We only get up there every other month or so, so we really have no basis of comparison. I must say I have the same problem down here.

Open a brewery, then learn to brew. Weird, it would have never struck me that you could get away with that.
I'm always saying to our members....yah, that's good, but can you brew it again. They're off doing this that or the other without ever getting a foundation recipe down and then expanding from there. But hey! Their friends just love their beer.

All Grain Brewing / Re: cold-weather brewing
« on: February 22, 2014, 11:14:08 AM »
If you're out of the wind, you can brew in just about any weather. I had a whimpy burner back in Minnesota, so I always stuck to 5 gal. batches when it was cold. Loved having all the snow for quick chilling.

Now get out there and brew. You'll be able to tell your grand kids about the adversity you survived one day.

Ingredients / Re: Fermcap-AT
« on: February 22, 2014, 11:12:07 AM »
I respectfully disagree with the brewery comment Denny. We've got a 65 mi.trip home after leaving Eugene and I really like having a nice selection of low gravity beers. Too many places up there have little available under 6.-6.5%. Maybe I'm just getting old. Maybe you're just getting cranky. ;)

Ingredients / Re: Fermcap-AT
« on: February 22, 2014, 10:47:24 AM »
Good store, good people.

The Pub / Re: Beer Limericks
« on: February 19, 2014, 10:59:05 AM »
There was an old farmer named Lear,
Who possessed a fine cow that gave beer.
Budweiser or Schlitz,
Could be tapped from her teats,
And pretzels came out of the rear.

What is hoppy and brings us good cheer?
Not a froggy, I promise, my dear!
It’s brown, black or tan,
It may come in a can.
It’s deliciously wonderful beer!

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Carboy Disaster
« on: February 17, 2014, 05:52:28 PM »
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Equipment and Software / Re: Weird Gas Post
« on: February 10, 2014, 08:34:29 AM »
Got a couple like that.  Cleaned as usual, been using for 20 yrs. no problems.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Malt head?
« on: February 08, 2014, 10:58:21 AM »
Beautiful balance makes a beer eminently enjoyable. My favorite place to drink has about 11-12 rotating taps. 10-11 of them range from 3.2% to under 6%. Mountains of malty flavor and plenty of hop aroma and flavor and very, very balanced beers. There's usually one bigger one with massive IBU's for the "Xtreme tasters" out there, but the bulk of their offerings are brewed for those who want to savor the flavor and appreciate all that a well crafted beer has to offer. Good Food is also important in this establishment, and the hops bombs don't play well with many foods.

Ingredients / Re: making Torrified Wheat?
« on: February 08, 2014, 10:26:11 AM »
Torrified wheat is not malted. It is made from unmalted wheat berries. They are just heated. I saw a Youtube of a guy who did his in a popcorn popper. Heated until brown and aromatic, but not popped

Equipment and Software / Re: Stainless Steel Hop Flter
« on: February 07, 2014, 05:11:10 PM »
Just got one.  They work very well. I purchased mine after using a friends. Good bye grubby little hop bags.
I special ordered a 6x16 with the center or side hanger option. Had it within 3 days. Great customer service from Arbor Fabricating in Ann Arbor, Mi.

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