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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Imperial L17 Harvest
« on: September 19, 2018, 09:10:58 PM »
I've used the Wyeast (2352) and Omega (Bayren Lager) versions of L17 Harvest before, and I've only had good experiences with Imperial's comparable strains. Supposedly, this specific strain is the lager strain from Augustiner brewery in Munich. 

L17 should work VERY well in both of the styles you mentioned. I actually developed one of my Marzen recipes around this yeast strain, and have no doubt that it would work in a Vienna just as well.

It's a very clean fermenter, has a very neutral character, and flocculates better than the 2124 strain. It doesn't attenuate quite as much, and will leave the beer with ever so slightly more body. Definitely one of my favorite lager strains, and I need to get back to using it again.

Thank you very much for the feedback. I think I will give it a try!

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Oktoberfest recipe
« on: September 19, 2018, 02:38:11 PM »
Brewing one soon even though it will be ready a little late.

50% Weyermann Munich II
41% Weyermann Pilsner
8% Weyermann Vienna
1% carafa II

Amber Malty water

21 IBUs with Magnum/HM @ 60

Undecided on yeast. Probably Imperial L17

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Imperial L17 Harvest
« on: September 19, 2018, 02:31:59 PM »
Looks like L13 might be better for the Vienna and L17 better for the Marzen...

Maybe I could use L13 for both?

Yeast and Fermentation / Imperial L17 Harvest
« on: September 19, 2018, 02:24:54 PM »
I am looking for a strain that would be suitable for a Vienna Lager then a Marzen and would prefer to use Imperial Yeast.

First of all, is it a bad plan to use the same strain for these styles?

From what I can tell Imperial L13 Global is equivalent to WY2124/WLP830 and L17 Harvest is equivalent to WY2352/WLP860. Does anyone know if this is accurate? Would either of these be suitable for both styles?

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 1st batch of hard cider
« on: September 15, 2018, 02:25:30 AM »
With beer yeast my ciders seem to reach fg in less than 2 weeks. I bet you’re good to go.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: What's Brewing this Weekend?
« on: September 13, 2018, 02:14:12 PM »
Vienna inspired amber adjunct lager

74% Vienna
15% Flaked Corn
10% Pilsner
1% carafa II

Amber balanced water

Bitter with Sterling and at 10 minutes for ~30 IBU


General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Adding cucumber
« on: September 12, 2018, 02:00:48 AM »
I had a very cucumber forward beer recently. The brewer said he used a juicer, strained it well, and added the liquid directly to the keg.

As mentioned, FG has likely been reached unless there was a fermentation problem. I cold crash to remove any remaining krausen. Don't know if you have the ability...

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Favorite Beer Drinking Scene
« on: August 24, 2018, 01:57:57 AM »
Brad Pitt’s funeral scene in Snatch. May be more whiskey than beer...

Oh an almost any episode of always sunny.

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Repitching yeast on Odell Wheat recipe
« on: August 23, 2018, 08:19:10 PM »
Can't comment too much about your plan but I'm not sure that yeast would be the best choice for Easy Street.

EDIT- Have you taken a hydrometer reading? If it didn't ferment well you could always throw another packet of yeast in.

Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Kona Brewing from a bottle...
« on: August 23, 2018, 08:14:13 PM »
I believe on the mainland their beers are brewed at Widmer and Redhook locations because they are part of Craft Brewers Alliance with those two and a couple other breweries.

The Kona beers in Hawai'i are definitely better than what floats around here.

I have noticed the bottles I get say brewed and bottled in Ft Collins.

"We began working more closely with Anheuser-Busch (“AB”) to advance several key aspects of the new and enhanced agreements we announced with AB in the third quarter. As part of the new brewing agreement, we made significant progress in qualifying several CBA beers for production in AB’s Fort Collins, Colo. brewery, beginning spring 2017. On the commercial side, Kona was featured in a special craft beer holiday variety pack, alongside Widmer Brothers, Redhook and other brands from AB’s High End division, and we developed multiple assets for AB’s annual sales and marketing conference. Finally, we continued to explore potential international distribution opportunities that leverage AB’s strong footprint around the world. These efforts demonstrate tangible progress in advancing this key relationship and harnessing AB’s immense global capabilities."

Beer Recipes / Re: Opinions on piney/ Earthy IPA recipe
« on: August 23, 2018, 03:11:24 PM »
I have a similar goal for my red rye APA. I bitter with Columbus then Simcoe, Chinook, & Centennial late in the boil and dry hop. For you goals, I would probably replace the Centennial with Columbus. I get a lot of earthiness from the rye though...

I agree that the Willamette will get lost unless you use a lot more of it.

Homebrew Competitions / Re: Judge experience
« on: August 15, 2018, 01:43:17 PM »
Good to hear others feedback. I am in no way disparaging any judges but just thought it was an interesting occurrence. It is likely just the pair of judges I got. It seems that as I have become a better brewer, my scores have gotten worse which is a bit frustrating. I don't think I will truly ever understand competitions but that's okay.

Homebrew Competitions / Re: Judge experience
« on: August 14, 2018, 09:46:21 PM »
Thanks all. The only reason I enter comps is to get feedback. The most frustrating part lately is even decent scores get more negative feedback than positive.

Homebrew Competitions / Judge experience
« on: August 14, 2018, 05:51:00 PM »
Lately I seem to notice a trend in comps I enter where I have two judges of different experience levels. The less experienced judges seem to give me scores that are about 4-6 points lower than the more experienced judges. Has any one else experienced this? What would be the explanation?

The only thing that makes sense is that the less experienced judges are looking for more flaws to prove they know what they are doing. It's almost they are looking for the good parts of a beer secondarily or as an afterthought. It's been very frustrating for me so I pretty much ignore those scores even though the two scores get averaged for my final.

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