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Ingredients / Re: Funny Stuff in Package of Hops from Hops Direct
« on: May 24, 2017, 06:44:09 PM »
Just for peace of mind, I'd still check for bones, haha!  Chalk another example of great customer service from HD!

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Ingredients / Re: Funny Stuff in Package of Hops from Hops Direct
« on: May 24, 2017, 05:50:50 PM »
I noticed a bunch of weird poop-like material in my 1-pound bag of Ekuanot hops. It seems like it might just be hop resin, but I am pretty curious if anyone knows what it is or if anyone has seen this before.


I think I found out what it is.  Check towards the end of this document around page 108: https://s3.amazonaws.com/assets.cce.cornell.edu/attachments/9647/-reduced-Hops_post_harvest_considerations-NY_April_2015.pdf?1435762646

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Ingredients / Re: Funny Stuff in Package of Hops from Hops Direct
« on: May 21, 2017, 08:47:58 AM »
Most likely just hop hash.

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Hop Growing / Re: Some Reading on Hop Training Dates.
« on: May 18, 2017, 09:39:34 PM »
Hahaha, the beer ends up getting to me every time too. 

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Hop Growing / Re: Some Reading on Hop Training Dates.
« on: May 18, 2017, 06:38:45 AM »
I had no idea it could impact yield.
http://msue.anr.msu.edu/news/hop_training

I'm surprised they didn't cover this management practice when you were out at hop school?  Most backyard growers would never really notice the impact that training date has, but a large operation has to take this into consideration, especially on varieties that ripen close to the same time.  Hops are easy to grow, but to consistently grow high quality year after year takes some doing!

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Hop Growing / Re: First Year Hop Plant Growth is Lackluster - WTF?
« on: May 02, 2017, 08:45:45 PM »
Enough to fill a wheel barrow, after one years growth?

The picture of the excavated hop crown in the article shows it's size in relation to the blue 5gal bucket.  http://allaboutbeer.com/canadian-red-vine/   Sure it's established, but those rhizomes that are exposed get lopped off every spring so what you're seeing is what that plant produced in the way of rhizomes over one growing season, yes they can get big.  Also, at this time of the year in traditional growing areas, soils are still just gradually warming up and there's a ton of feeder roots being formed.  The fact that your soil is above ground and sitting on a surface that absorbs heat (then is radiated back into the surrounding areas at night) mostly has a huge impact on the hops.  Tomatoes and peppers love the heat on their roots, hops - not so much, especially early in the season.  Just by moving them out into the lawn will help cool things down a little for you.

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Ingredients / Re: Cascade and Chinook Terroir
« on: April 26, 2017, 08:15:59 PM »
Maybe it's time for us to stop kidding ourselves and grow hops hydro indoors.  Hint: halide for vegetative and HPS for flowering  ;D

There's more than a few folks trying it and are finding quite a few issues.  I've never had anyone get back to me about vernalization so I know that's a big one.  I guess they'll keep trying as long as it's other peoples $$ they're using, haha.  http://www.coloradoan.com/story/life/food/2016/07/01/csu-professor-pioneers-fast-growing-hops/86599646/

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Ingredients / Re: Cascade and Chinook Terroir
« on: April 26, 2017, 10:21:18 AM »
This all makes me wonder besides weather and location what type of soil amendments could radically affect the hop smells and flavor profile?

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I'm interested in this too. Hopefully someone less lazy than me does the research and posts. :D

If you're interested in soil amendments only, home research will probably be the only way you'll find out.  Farmers certainly understand that soil health is at the top of the list when it comes to producing a healthy crop, but serious soil amendment at production scale is an enormous task that generally doesn't happen on a grand scale. 

Larger growers generally reserve their best land to high value crops like apples, wine grapes and hops and work with what they have. 

Here is an article that concurs with what was posted earlier: http://msue.anr.msu.edu/uploads/234/78934/7._Post-Harvest_Quality_Control_Zac_German.pdf

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Ingredients / Re: Cascade and Chinook Terroir
« on: April 21, 2017, 06:55:00 PM »
From what I'm coming to find is that most of the legacy growers (PNW) know what the hops need during the reproductive growth phase in the way of nutrients to coax the best oil profile to develop, but there are other factors that play a much bigger role in the quality of the final oil composition.  Growing temperatures throughout the season have a huge impact on the quality of the oil package as does harvest timing as the plants push a ton of energy into making the oils/resins within like the last week or so leading up to harvest.  Now, if you have so much acreage of one variety that it takes you an entire week to harvest, the oil composition of the early harvested vs the late harvested can be quite different, so the lots are generally blended to homogenize things a bit.  It's easy to grow hops, but not so easy to grow high quality hops year in and year out. 

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Ingredients / Re: Cascade and Chinook Terroir
« on: April 13, 2017, 06:30:03 AM »
I'll agree with the whole terroir conversation.  A month or so ago while attending the Great Lakes Hop and Barley Conference a brewery located close to the event held a tasting: http://msue.anr.msu.edu/news/great_lakes_hop_barley_conference_to_feature_single_hop_craft_beer_tastings.  The unfortunate part of the exercise was the fact that the beers weren't really cleanly brewed and the majority of those who tasted them were  having a hard time finding any appreciable differences. 

I know for one, the Chinook I grow here in NEOhio are much more minty than anything coming out of PNW and those I've tried from Michigan did have a cool pineapple character and were much more different than either mine or the PNW sourced ones I've used.  Hopefully the growers in the non-traditional regions can figure it out and have long term success!

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Hop Growing / Re: Selling hop rhizomes
« on: January 13, 2017, 08:14:15 AM »
If those plants were growing in a 'happy place', you should have a decent amount of rhizomes to trim off of the crowns when you dig them up.  The rhizomes will grow out horizontally away from the center of the crown like tentacles on an octopus and are generally located within the top 6 inches of soil.  Can't figure out how to post pictures here so here's a link with a great picture of a canadian redvine crown I excavated a few years back: http://allaboutbeer.com/canadian-red-vine/.  Just start digging with the shovel oriented like in the picture and dig all the way around the crown lifting the rhizomes as you go.  Cut them back to the crown and then into about 6-8 inch lengths (usually two sets of buds), sell, replant or whatever you'd like.  One other option is to stick the rhizomes into pots for this year so you can sell whole plants this fall or next year. Hoppy Trails~

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Ingredients / Re: Studying the differences in hops and malts
« on: January 02, 2017, 11:38:46 AM »
Something like this is kind of a handy option for tasting the differences in the hops: https://webgram.co/p/BOsURSHh7zq

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Hop Growing / Re: Harvest in MI
« on: August 20, 2016, 08:01:40 PM »
Really good growing conditions up til the last few weeks here in NEOhio.  Picked and dried this seedling selection from last year in the past few days for a total of about 13+ ounces.  Nothing earth shattering  but I would say like the old heads used to that it has a very pleasant 'general hoppiness' to it.  Proof will be in the beer it's used in this fall once all the others are harvested.  http://imgur.com/a/c0B9p

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Hop Growing / Re: 2016 hop growning season
« on: April 14, 2016, 08:32:54 PM »
Rhizomes are usually dug when they're dormant and kept refrigerated to help hold them back.  If that's what you're planting, as soon as you can work the soil is a good time to get them in the ground.  Once it begins to warm up, they'll start poking.  In your first year you should let everything grow as the more foliage it can produce, the more food it can produce  to help build a strong root system and crown.  Once they're established they'll generally produce many more shoots than you'll need  so folks thin them out. 

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Ingredients / Re: (R) Hops
« on: April 11, 2016, 08:19:45 PM »
If the public domain hops really were as good as the private ones then they would flourish in the free market, right?

Hops get hot because they offer aromas that are unique and help sell beer. Hopefully the growers can keep up with demand.


Well put!  I'm pretty sure that the folks who developed them know enough growers to make sure they'll be able to keep up, but do they really want to? 

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