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Hop Growing / Re: New and unusual rhizomes
« on: March 05, 2015, 12:19:29 AM »
Not saying that the hops you rubbed didn't have seeds in them, but a lot of it has to do with how much of what is available at any given time.  The cream of the crop goes to the guys with the most pull, but being that there's not enough of certain varieties (like Mosaic) planted, even the big players have to take what they can get until acreage can keep up with demand.  Most of what I dry-hop with are varieties like Mosaic, Citra, Simcoe etc. so I'm pretty excited the following spring to see what comes up as those seedlings will be carrying some of those genes with them.  It's a long shot but you can't win if you don't play!

Hop Growing / Re: New and unusual rhizomes
« on: March 04, 2015, 11:37:43 AM »
You'd be surprised at how many lots of hops I've used over the last 25 years were seeded, some were actually loaded.  Homebrewers are pretty low on the feeding chain so I'm guessing we get the 'less than premium' hops when all is said and done.  All it takes is one boy in the hood.

The other surprise is how seeds are built, not just hops but most all are designed to weather harsh environments.  The first one popped up in the mid-90's and she's still going. 

Hop Growing / Re: New and unusual rhizomes
« on: March 04, 2015, 09:10:08 AM »
Great Lakes has a bunch of high quality/unique stuff.  I don't have any experience with High Hops so can't say about quality, but they list quite a few:

Using whole hops in your brews is another way to increase variety.  Every spring, the compost used on my garlic patch yields a good number of seedlings.  I don't know if they've survived the late-hop/knockout additions, but am sure those used as dry-hops are most likely the ones that germinate.  It's really cool to witness the genetic diversity that's out there!  Hop On~

Ingredients / Re: Hop Oil
« on: February 27, 2015, 11:17:28 AM »
I think this is pretty much sold as 'singles':  Never tried it but it seems to get good reviews?

edit: I literally just saw this one:

Ingredients / Re: Hop Oil
« on: February 25, 2015, 11:52:14 PM »
And to take things to the next level, there's this:  I've actually used the Freshops product to flavor water before and it was a pleasant surprise while out riding my bike to reach down and take a hit of hop flavored water!  The candy will also achieve a similar result and works well in hot tea and coffee. 

Ingredients / Re: Michigan Hops Farms Expanding.
« on: February 25, 2015, 08:35:15 AM »

Ingredients / Re: Hop Oil
« on: February 23, 2015, 07:30:01 PM »
If it's anything like this:, it should be a hit.  Great for those events you get stuck at where your host ends up providing a keg of BMC or other lifeless beer.  A drop or two will help you get through the event a little better.

Ingredients / Re: Michigan Hops Farms Expanding.
« on: February 19, 2015, 10:37:07 PM »

Wonder where in N. MI?

The guys I know on teh brewing side like some of the qualities of the Chinook and Cascade from MI. They say the aromatics are very nice.

Don't quote me but I think I remember hearing near TC?  I did get some of the 'pineapple' Chinook from Jeff & Bonnie but haven't tried them yet.


Apparently the thinking is that there is another hop shortage coming up - or at least good profit margins to be made in the next few years.

I've seen some unbelievable numbers on the planned expansions and have to think it's all tied to contracts.  Lots of brewers, especially the new ones, are tired of ending up with the 'scraps' that may or may not be there after all the contracts are filled so they're finally contracting.  And you're right when saying that hop prices are finally rising.  Not a whole lot, but enough to justify the growers investment in some additional acreage.  I've heard from a few sources that there could be a downside to the expansions in that there will come a point that additional drying capacity will be needed to get the crop dried in a timely manner, and I guess a new dryer can run in the millions?  Get ready to pay a little bit more for your hops in the next few years to help finance the dryers.

Ingredients / Re: Michigan Hops Farms Expanding.
« on: February 19, 2015, 11:31:12 AM »
While attending a hop conference here in Ohio two weeks ago, a fellow mentioned to me that one of the big players in Yakima was considering establishing some test acreage (200A?) in Northern MI. $2000/A in MI is quite a savings from what land is going for in the Yak Valley.  Business is business I guess. 

Ingredients / Re: neomexicanus
« on: February 13, 2015, 09:35:02 PM »
I had two bombers and found it really tasty!  My taste buds really aren't all that sharp to be able to discern a lot of subtleties but I did get a general fruitiness along with a very clean, crisp character.  The first sip actually took me back to when I first started enjoying beer (late 70's) when the hopping levels were quite a bit higher (pre-craft), and I can't  remember what beer it was, but the Wild Hop reminded me of that flavor.  It could be that the Neo's contain some of the oil components that the 'late hops of yesteryear' also contained?  Todd mentioned that he never had an oil analysis done on any of them but I have seen some numbers on some other Neo's that are out there and the cohumulone levels are off the charts.  Either way, I'm a fan!

Hop Growing / Re: 2015 Hop season
« on: February 09, 2015, 09:37:26 PM »
That sounds about right, thanks!

Hop Growing / Re: 2015 Hop season
« on: February 08, 2015, 09:33:59 AM »
Just curious as to what they charged you for the oil analysis as I've got some seedlings that have made it through the first couple years of hurdles and am thinking that they're worth spending a few bucks to see what's actually inside now?   

Hop Growing / Re: Crown removal
« on: October 07, 2014, 08:11:06 PM »
If you're talking about running bamboo, then yes.  Hops are way easier to contain than bamboo.

Hop Growing / Re: Crown removal
« on: October 07, 2014, 10:11:22 AM »

Interesting.  We have four hills going, and all are in half wine barrels.  two will need some work, and I had intended to clean them up in January or so.  Are you saying it's better to "harvest some rhizomes" now?  I've done this type of thing with rhubarb for years, and had planned the same M.O.
I was mostly talking about crowns, but I think just cutting and moving rhizomes might be a little more dicey due to rhizomes having less energy stored up than crowns.  Actually, that's how I obtained my first cuttings.  I spotted a wild one about this time of the year and took the chance of yanking up a chunk of rhizome and planting it in a cornfield close to where I lived.  The following spring I dug it up and moved it to a permanent location with great results.  They're really durable plants and have a great desire to live so I'm sure you'll have success with whatever you plan.

Hop Growing / Re: Crown removal
« on: October 07, 2014, 06:55:30 AM »
el_capitan,  it's a great time to do that sort of thing.  One big benefit is that the soil is usually easier to work with at this time of the year, as many times you're dealing with a bunch of mud in the Spring.  Not only is it messy, but you can harm your soil structure when it's wet. 

The other huge benefit is that those cuttings that are moved will be able to begin developing new roots until the soil freezes.  When you do this in the spring, root growth/development is very slow until the soil warms enough to get them going.  Try one crown this fall and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised!

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