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Ingredients / Re: Hop Flavor Database
« on: March 14, 2014, 10:02:18 PM »


 What I'm interested in is some of the oils that seem to be popping up in the hop literature in recent years like 4MMP, geraniol, linalool, citronellol, etc.
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All that stuff that you're looking for and more are listed in the original link.  The way that page is set up you'd need a 72 inch monitor to see it all without scrolling, ha!  I saw that a while back but it blew my mind trying to remember what the headings were so I went back to shoveling snow. 

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Hop Growing / Re: 2014 Planting?
« on: February 27, 2014, 11:01:10 PM »
Think about it this way.  Someone who digs and sells rhizomes usually gets out and digs before the soils get warm enough to initiate growth so the buds are nice and compact and haven't started to elongate.  Once they're cleaned and graded, they immediately put them in the fridge to help keep them in a dormant state until they're sold and shipped.  I'm very familiar with Freshops and know that Dave usually stops shipments sometime in June.  He's been digging rhizomes for a few weeks now, so you know they'll store for at least a few months in the fridge which will give you plenty of time not to worry and drink plenty of beer!

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Ingredients / Re: corn or rice
« on: February 02, 2014, 08:13:20 AM »
You have to cook the unmalted grains to gelatinize the starch prior to adding it to your mash.  http://byo.com/bock/item/442-cereal-mashing-techniques

edit: oops!  All good~

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Ingredients / Re: malting
« on: January 24, 2014, 11:38:02 AM »
Tonight I've got "good chit":


Nice job!  Whatever variety of barley that is, the husk is almost transparent.  This makes it very easy to monitor the process and know when to begin kilning.  Like was said, cooler temps will buy you some time by slowing the germination process if you're not yet ready to dry them down.  If you observe a few random kernels on a daily basis for the next few days,  you'll know then the majority are at about 3/4 the way to the tip.  That's generally the time suggested to begin halting the process.  Remember your temps!

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Hop Growing / Re: Anyone seen hops like these?
« on: December 23, 2013, 08:08:16 AM »
pinnah,

I'm sure if you contacted these folks: http://www.ars-grin.gov/cor/reprints/hopexpedition2002.pdf ,  they'd take a few cuttings off your hands and be able to let you know what you have as that's what they're looking for.  Merry Christmas!

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Hop Growing / Re: Anyone seen hops like these?
« on: December 13, 2013, 11:21:20 PM »
pinnah,

Get in touch with Greatlakeshops & send some pics and descriptions.  I know they're growing some of the neomexicanus and should be able to help narrow it down for you.  http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=TSN&search_value=19160  The dude that bred the Multihead, Neo 1 and Amalia told me that they produce really, really scrawny rhizomes so that's another possible identifier.  Without spending a bunch of $$ to have an oil profile or DNA done . . . it's up to you.  I pretty much had to give up on that kinda stuff, other priorities.  Hopefully Zeus or CTZ candy next?  Good luck!

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Ingredients / Re: malting
« on: November 27, 2013, 11:29:18 AM »
My impression has always been that making malt is easy, but making good malt is hard.  I'll be looking forward to your results!

Very true, as you're just encouraging a seed to do what it naturally does (germinate), but from that point on is the real test.

I did about 15 pounds of feed barley back in the early 90's and ended up turning it into a munich/vienna malt as I couldn't get my final kiln temps below about 220F.  It did make a decent beer but what I remember most was that I'd never do it again because of all the work, haha!  (especially the fact that you could buy a bag of malt for less than $20 back then)

I'm sure you'll have good luck with your project!

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Hop Growing / Re: Requests to Hops Growers
« on: November 21, 2013, 03:11:44 PM »

Multihead is a variety grown in New Mexico. I just bought some on
I talked to some guys a couple of years ago who were doing some research into wild hops found in NM, but they were very tight with info.  I saw somewhere that El Dorado is a hop developed from wild hops in NM but I don't know if that's true or not, and I've never heard of Multihead.

I actually spoke with Todd a few months ago and he did say that he began with wild NM hops that they found at high elevation (8000 feet) and kept the ones that did well at 6000, also mentioned that there are a good proportion of citrus compounds to be found in the varieties that came out of their breeding efforts.  He also mentioned that he worked out a deal with a grower up in Yakima to take over his project.  Here's a little background: http://www.santafe.com/article/humulus-lupulus-neomexicanus and where to buy cuttings: http://www.rnventerprises.com/files/Variety_Descriptions_20134.pdf.

Never used any of them myself but would like to in the future.

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Ingredients / Re: Hop Report
« on: October 29, 2013, 09:31:01 PM »
I don't think there's any reason to start hoarding unless you use lots of European hops.  Like  hopfenundmalz said, the German crop was the worst in 50 years (so I've seen).  Most of the reports from the US have been pretty good in that the folks with contracts will pretty much be taken care of.  What remains will most likely be a little more expensive than the last couple of years.  Again, he mentioned that 'global' production was down so I'd figure that some will be a little hard to find.  Hops Away!

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Ingredients / Re: Gimme some sugar!
« on: October 25, 2013, 06:48:07 AM »
No plans on those any time soon, but I recently have been playing with some of the high alpha and super alpha girls like Super Galena, Nugget, Zeus, Bravo and Apollo.  It's really amazing what flavor/aroma compounds are hidden behind all that bitterness. 

Been sending samples out with all of my customers orders and looking for feedback, unfortunately folks seem to be reluctant to get back to me for some reason.  The few that have are leaning toward Zeus which is fine with me.  Stay tuned and have a Hoppy Halloween!

ps: Simcoe, Galaxy = nothing to write home about. 

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Ingredients / Re: Gimme some sugar!
« on: October 24, 2013, 10:33:32 AM »
Don't forget the hop candy Denny!  Folks actually DO use it for priming . . . and other stuff.

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Hop Growing / Re: Obtaining Hop Rhizomes?
« on: September 28, 2013, 11:55:42 AM »
FWIW, I'm pretty sure Freshops doesn't dig the rhizomes.  AFAIK, Dave doesn't grow any hops at all.  But he's near the major hop growers and gets everything very fresh.

Believe it or not, "they do" and "he does".  I don't know were he gets all the energy to keep up with all that he's got going, but I want to find that place!  Might have something to do with his ginseng porter though?
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Thanks for the correction, Bob!  Obviously, I didn't realize that!  Dave does seem to have superhuman energy...but that still won't get me to drink that porter!  ;)
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Hahaha, I know what you mean.  The Bourbon BBL Porter is quite a different story though.

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Hop Growing / Re: Obtaining Hop Rhizomes?
« on: September 28, 2013, 10:08:47 AM »
FWIW, I'm pretty sure Freshops doesn't dig the rhizomes.  AFAIK, Dave doesn't grow any hops at all.  But he's near the major hop growers and gets everything very fresh.

Believe it or not, "they do" and "he does".  I don't know were he gets all the energy to keep up with all that he's got going, but I want to find that place!  Might have something to do with his ginseng porter though?

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Hop Growing / Re: Obtaining Hop Rhizomes?
« on: September 27, 2013, 08:27:53 PM »
I don't think it's a question of vendors selling 'bad' rhizomes, it's more a question of who the vendor is.  Is it the guy who digs the rhizomes and stores them properly then sells them to you, or is it a vendor who's actually a middleman?  Not saying that middlemen are a problem at all, but the more times the plant material gets handled the more times there's a chance of it being mishandled somewhere along the line which can lead to poor performance. 

Some of the folks I know who dig and sell are http://www.freshops.com/, http://rnventerprises.com/, http://hopsdirect.com/.  And as was mentioned, you can buy actual plants which will perform better than rhizomes in their first year being that they already have roots and can concentrate their energy into top growth. 

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Hop Growing / Re: Anyone seen hops like these?
« on: August 30, 2013, 07:14:20 AM »
I had cuttings given to me when I lived in Upstate NY (late 80's) which were said to be Canadian Redvines (http://www.ars.usda.gov/SP2UserFiles/person/2450/hopcultivars/21679.html) which I had never heard of. A hop breeder over at Oregon State told me they were grown in PNW a long time ago but were replaced by other varieties.  I gave him some cuttings which he grew and then did an oil profile once they produced for him.  Each hop has a unique oil profile and can be identified this way.  I'm not sure if this would be cheaper than genetic testing but you might want to contact them or maybe Ali Hamm.  She was working for Summit Plant labs and recently assumed a teaching position at Colorado State fermentation program.  She's a fan of the candy and might be able to steer you in the right direction.  Also, some of the folks in this article may be worth trying to contact: http://farmingtonsc.nmsu.edu/documents/hops-flier3-july2013rev3.pdf

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