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Yeast and Fermentation / Trub in an all-grain starter
« on: September 13, 2013, 12:24:49 PM »
I recently grew up a pitch of Wyeast Canadian/Belgian from a bottle I brewed last year. I'm a big fan of the yeast and it's a seasonal strain that's not scheduled for release any time soon, so I decided to keep it going for a while. I decided to save the last ounce or so of yeast slurry and add some of the final "runnings" I set aside from the Belgian Pale Ale I was brewing to restart the starter.

So now I have a starter with a huge amount of trub - approximately 3 times as deep as the yeast slurry was in my last starter (and the yeast hasn't even started to floc out yet). Has anyone done an all-grain starter and run into this before? Any idea how I should handle the trub? I'm not growing a starter for a particular batch at the moment, but I just wanted to stockpile some relatively fresh slurry in the fridge for use later this fall.

I was thinking of either:

A) Wash the yeast to separate it from the trub, then store in a loosely closed mason jar in the fridge until I'm ready to use it


B) Just say "screw it" and dump the slurry and trub all together into a mason jar in hopes that the layers will separate and I can pour mostly yeast slurry off the top when I go to pitch.

Any thoughts or other suggestions?

Ingredients / Wet hop sale
« on: September 02, 2013, 07:37:08 PM »
I saw this and thought I'd share for those who'd like to brew a wet hop beer but aren't growing their own.

Commercial Beer Reviews / Moat Mountain Smokehouse and Brewery
« on: August 30, 2013, 08:44:21 PM »
I was also able to make it to Moat Mountain on my recent trip to NH. Unlike my experience at Woodstock Inn, Moat Mountain has never disappointed me. Food and service were excellent, as were the beers. My favorite brews were the Czech Pils and the Brown Ale. The Pils was crisp and firmly hopped. The Brown Ale was easy-drinking but with a touch of roastiness, which is something I appreciate in a Brown.

They also had a nice Helles as one of their seasonals. I don't see too many brewpubs dabbling in lagers, so I really appreciate seeing a Pils and Helles on the menu. I think Helles is one of the most unforgiving styles to brew, and I think it says a lot when a brewery puts out a good one. Props to Moat Mtn for having the stones to put one out.

Commercial Beer Reviews / Woodstock Inn Station and Brewery
« on: August 29, 2013, 09:14:51 PM »
I was up in NH with the family this week and I managed to squeeze in dinner at a couple of the local brewpubs. Unfortunately, I had a rather disappointing trip to Woodstock Inn. Without going into the service too much, I'll just say that our waiter was having a truly horrible day. My wife ended up wearing some of it, too.

On the beer front, all they had available was their 6 year-round brews. Not only have I had all of them at one time or another, but they are all distributed fairly well in the region so I could pick up most of them at the store if I wanted to. Kinda lame to make the trek to the brewery only to find nothing new/special/seasonal on tap.

And then I remembered why I wasn't a huge fan of their beers in the first place. Every single one was a butter bomb. It's like they were all fermented with 1968 and crash cooled about 2 gravity points too soon. It's a shame, because I think their APA and red would be killer if there was no diacetyl.

Kegging and Bottling / Fixing overcarbonated bottles
« on: August 21, 2013, 05:04:13 PM »
I bottles an ESB a couple of months ago and underestimated how much beer the dry hops would soak up, so I ended up overpriming my bottles. Unfortunately, there is a lot of sediment in the bottles (side note - I will never be trying the "1-day dry hop" thing again. Not enough time for the hops to settle out and too much makes it through my siphon/paint-strainer bag setup). The carbonation is high enough that it blows the sediment loose once I open the bottle and it all makes it into my glass. Essentially, this batch is a dumper unless I can fix the carbonation issue.

So, has anyone here had any luck fixing an overcarbonated batch of bottles? Most of the bottles I've tried have been gushers, so I don't think I can simply open, then recap them. Any ideas?

Beer Recipes / Belgian Pale Ale
« on: August 18, 2013, 08:24:47 PM »
So hop harvest time is just around the corner and I've done the APA/IPA thing to death this summer so I want to do something a little different with me & my buddy's hops. I was thinking a Belgian Pale Ale using our hops at flameout (will have several ounces of Cascade and an ounce or two of Willamette). Here's my first draft of what I was thinking:

Title: Belgian Pale Ale

Brew Method: BIAB
Style Name: Belgian Pale Ale
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 3.5 gallons (fermentor volume)
Boil Size: 4 gallons
Boil Gravity: 1.047
Efficiency: 80% (brew house)

Original Gravity: 1.054
Final Gravity: 1.013
ABV (standard): 5.33%
SRM (morey): 8.99

2.5 lb - Belgian - Pale Ale (40.8%)
2 lb - German - Vienna (32.7%)
10 oz - Belgian - CaraVienne (10.2%)
8 oz - Cane Sugar (8.2%)
8 oz - Belgian - Aromatic (8.2%)

1) Infusion, Temp: 151 F, Time: 75 min, Amount: 17 qt, Sacc Rest

Any thoughts or recommendations? Most of the BPA recipes I've seen call for Pils as the base malt, but I'm not really looking for that Pils malt flavor in this one. That's why I went with the Pale Ale/Vienna combo for the base malt. I'm going to try to grow up a starter from a bottle I brewed last fall using the Canadian/Belgian Wyeast strain. The other option I was thinking of was the Duvel strain.

For hops I was planning on bittering with Magnum for 15 IBU's, then making a WAG at how long to hold a hop stand with the homegrown hops to get another 15 IBU's or so. If I can end up in the 25-35 IBU range I'll be happy.

Beer Recipes / Hopstand & Dry Hop IPA
« on: August 12, 2013, 10:30:46 AM »
I just got this into the fermenter. Crazy amount of hops - looking forward to how this turns out. I used a 30 minute addition to estimate the utilization from the 90 minute hop stand. Not that it matters much at 475 IBU...

Title: Hopstand IPA

Brew Method: BIAB
Style Name: American IPA
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 3.5 gallons (fermentor volume)
Boil Size: 4 gallons
Boil Gravity: 1.058
Efficiency: 70% (brew house)
No Chill: 30 minute extended hop boil time

Original Gravity: 1.066
IBU (tinseth): 475.51
SRM (morey): 7.62

6.5 lb - American - Pale 2-Row (72.2%)
2 lb - German - Munich Light (22.2%)
8 oz - American - Victory (5.6%)

2 oz - Citra, Type: Leaf/Whole, AA: 14.8, Use: Boil for 0 min, IBU: 104.49
2 oz - Apollo, Type: Pellet, AA: 18, Use: Boil for 0 min, IBU: 139.79
2 oz - Meridian, Type: Pellet, AA: 6.7, Use: Boil for 0 min, IBU: 52.03
2 oz - Motueka, Type: Pellet, AA: 7.2, Use: Boil for 0 min, IBU: 55.92
2.5 oz - Nelson Sauvin, Type: Pellet, AA: 12.7, Use: Boil for 0 min, IBU: 123.29
1 oz - Amarillo, Type: Leaf/Whole, AA: 12, Use: Hopback for 0 min at  °F
1.5 oz - Citra, Type: Leaf/Whole, AA: 14.8, Use: Dry Hop for 7 days
2 oz - Meridian, Type: Pellet, AA: 6.7, Use: Dry Hop for 7 days
2 oz - Motueka, Type: Leaf/Whole, AA: 7.2, Use: Dry Hop for 7 days
1 oz - Nelson Sauvin, Type: Pellet, AA: 12.7, Use: Dry Hop for 7 days

1) Infusion, Temp: 153 F, Time: 60 min, Amount: 17 qt, Sacc Rest

Fermentis / Safale - Safale - American Ale Yeast US-05

90 minute hop stand

(Note: Efficiency calculation dropped to 70 to account for wort lost to hops.)

"Hopback" Amarillo is actually steeped in French Press with priming sugar immediately prior to bottling.

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Ingredients / Single hopped beer tasting notes - 2013 edition
« on: August 09, 2013, 09:22:33 PM »
So I've finally started tasting my most recent crop of single-hopped pale ales and have some tasting notes to share. First, here's a quick rundown of my basic recipe/procedure.

I brewed these all as a series of 1-gallon (preboil volume) extract batches with a 15 minute boil. The goal is more speed and efficiency than precision here. Once I get a good flow going I can crank out a new batch every 30-40 minutes.

Malt bill - 0.8lb Light DME/0.3lb Munich LME, but I figure out how much this is by volume and just measure it out by the scoop to save time. Target OG is between 1.055-1.060. I add this to my kettle with 1 gallon of water and stir as it heats up until everything is dissolved.

Once the extract is dissolved I add the FWH hops. I calculate this as a 20-minute addition and target 40 IBU's (although my palate is telling me that it's really closer to 30) I then add 0.25oz at flameout and 0.5oz as dry hops. I find that this gives me a decent overall picture of the bittering, aroma and flavor for a hop variety. It also conveniently works out to almost exactly 1 ounce of hops per batch, which is a nice coincidence.

Without further ado, let's get to some tasting notes.

Other Fermentables / Ginger Ale Mead?
« on: August 04, 2013, 06:48:53 PM »
I've had an idea that keeps popping up in my head, so I'm thinking of giving it a go. I was thinking of brewing a relatively low gravity (1.050-1.060ish) mead that would be a bit more refreshing than my typical 15%+ "dessert-wine" style melomels. I want to shoot for something like a fruited ginger beer (thinking raspberry, lime, or both).

Anyone have any experience with a recipe in this style? Would I use as much fruit as I would for a bigger melomel, or cut it back? Also, any recommendations on how much ginger root to use? Lastly, I'd want to bottle carbonate, but I've never done this with a mead. I'd assume the preferred priming sugar would be the honey I used for the mead, correct? I'm thinking of priming to 3 volumes in normal beer bottles.

Due to a serious lack of time I want to combine two similar brews into one brewday, then split them off partway into primary. I thought I'd bounce my basic plan off of the forum in case I'm overlooking something or if someone has a better idea.

I want to end up with 3 gallons of 1.040/28 IBU saison and 3 gallons of 1.048/8 IBU lambic. I can produce 4 gallons of wort max in a batch. So here's what I was thinking:

Main batch - 4 gallons of 1.040/12 IBU wort. Pitch 3711 and ferment in the mid 60's for 3 days.

After 3 days i will rack 2 gallons into a separate fermenter and add 1 gallon of unhopped wort to bring the 3 gallons up to 1.048 (and thus dilute the IBU's from 12 to 8]. By my calculation this is equal to about 1.5 lbs of light DME. At this point I pitch my bugs and strap on my Brew Belt to kick the lacto into gear. This way I also get some flavor and mouthfeel contributions from the 3711, but add some food back for the lacto.

The remaining 2 gallons get a gallon of 1.040 wort with enough IBU's to bring the 3 gallons up to 28 IBU's (60 IBU's by my calculation), plus my flameout hops. Once it's finished I will process as usual (one gallon will be going on some red and pink currants, and some on hibiscus as well).

So, does this sound reasonable? Am I missing anything obvious?

The Pub / Question for the microbiologists out there
« on: July 25, 2013, 10:05:09 AM »
Over the past couple of weeks I've noticed a familiar smell that I couldn't quite place whenever the air conditioning turns on in one of our pharmacies. Today I got a good whiff of it and I finally figured it out - it was the distinct cherry pie/funk aroma of Brett. Once I picked it out, it's unmistakeable and nothing like the usual vinegar/feet smell you can get when a humid HVAC system first kicks in. I am now sitting here craving Orval while I'm at work.

So here's my question to the professionals out there - are there any species of mold that can produce the same compounds that Brett does to give these aromas? We've had a positive test for airborne mold in the general area under this HVAC outlet not too long ago.

I've always suspected the HVAC system since my allergies go berserk once it turns on, but we were told it was most likely from the sink. Whenever anyone mentions the HVAC as the culprit they get shot down, even though we've had issues with poorly designed HVAC systems in several other locations. It's much easier to say "just pour some bleach down the sink once a month" than to start ripping through an HVAC system.

All Things Food / Lambic for pickle making?
« on: July 23, 2013, 04:52:49 AM »
So, here's my dilemma. I already have more cucumbers than I can eat coming out of my garden, and I only have 1 out of my 6 plants setting fruit right now. The obvious solution to this problem is to make pickles. Here's the thing - I hate vinegar and I've never really liked pickles. So, my thought was to use another type of acid to brine my cukes.

The first thought that jumped to mind was to use lambic instead of vinegar. Obviously this would be ridiculously expensive for now since I don't have any sour beers online in the home brewery as of yet. But I'd be willing to shell out 8-10 bucks or so for a test batch. Any experienced pickle makers care to weigh in on this idea? I'm planning on doing this as a fridge pickle, so long-term storage isn't as much of a concern. I was thinking a combo of sweet/spicy/funky - something like ginger, brown sugar and chile peppers plus a less-expensive gueuze (Girardin, Oud Beersel, Boon, etc.).

Does this sound doable? Would it be even remotely palatable? Any guesstimates on the proportion of gueuze to water?

Beer Recipes / English Pale Ale
« on: July 19, 2013, 08:02:01 AM »
So I'm looking for a good all-grain English Pale Ale recipe, or at least some tips to help build my own. I'm looking for something closer to Bass Ale than a Fuller's ESB. I saw an old Bass clone recipe from BYO, but when I see Flaked Maize in an English Ale recipe it makes me suspicious. Even if that is a true clone, that's not the direction I want to go with my own recipe.

I'm looking for a dry pale ale recipe to showcase some UK hops. I know Bass isn't super hoppy, but I think that is a good ballpark to get started with. Some specific questions I had:

Base malt - Some sort of English Pale Ale malt - Anyone have any preferences between MO, Optic or any other pale ale malt?

Crystal - I want a little bit of English crystal character, but not as much as a Fullers-style ESB. I'm thinking about 5% of an 80L English Dark Crystal.

Victory/Biscuit - This says "English ale" to my palate. I'm thinking 6oz for a 3 gallon batch.

Roast Barley - one thing I do agree with the BYO clone recipe on is a touch of roastiness. I'm thinking of 1-2 oz of 300L Roast Barley added late in the mash.

Yeast - Any strong preferences to a particular strain? Leaning towards WLP007, but S-04, WLP002 and WLP023 come to mind also. Any other options I should consider?

Hops - Whatever UK hop styles I have on hand, mainly late additions. First up will be Challenger + Phoenix. I may pick up a third variety to add along, but I want to stay away from the typical EKG and/or Fuggles for the first round.

As always, thanks in advance. I'm looking forward to everyone's ideas and experiences with this style.

Ingredients / Hops Direct Summer Sale
« on: July 03, 2013, 12:59:42 PM »
Just started. They have a pretty good selection, including 2013 Galaxy leaf and pellets as well as some organic imports if that's your style.. Just picked up some Galaxy, plus some Challenger and Phoenix.

Ingredients / Light vs Black Roasted Barley
« on: June 28, 2013, 11:00:55 AM »
So I was just placing an order online with Midwest and saw that they carry Briess Light (300L) Roasted Barley. It sounded interesting, so I ordered a pound. Is anyone familiar with this product? How does it compare with a more traditional (500+ L) Roasted Barley? What type of recipes would you use it in?

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