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Beer Recipes / Re: American wheat
« on: April 19, 2012, 08:54:13 PM »
So after reading everybody's suggestions we have decide to go with two separate beers
an "American" wheat beer (5gal)  and dunkelweizen (3gal) the dunkelwiezen has not been scaled down for a 3 gal batch yet. Do these ingredients make sense

970 American Wheat Recipe
6.5 lbs  Liquid Wheat Extract
8oz Munich Malt
4 oz Crystal 10
.5  oz Chinook @ 60min
.5 oz Chinook  @20 min ?
1 oz Tettnanger  10 min
Safale US-05
Steep munich and crystal for 30min
Add extract and hops  boil for 60min
1st fermenter 7days
2nd fermenter 14days

Bernstein Weizen Dunkleweizen
6.6 pounds, wheat malt extract
   1/2 pound, crystal malt
 1/2lb pale malt
 1 pound, wheat malt
1/4 pound, chocolate  malt                                                                                                                                        1 oz, of Hallertauer (US) 60min                                                                 .5oz  Willamette 20min
.5oz  Willamette 5min
WY1010 - American Wheat.
Steep specialty grains for 30mins @ 150
7days prime
10-14 days 2nd

For a 3gal batch should i boil 3+gal or should i only boil 2gal and some cold water to the carboy?

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Beer Recipes / Re: American wheat
« on: April 05, 2012, 12:38:17 PM »
I  appreciate  all the useful info I. think I may do a 5 gal american wheat. And a 3 gal "american" dunkelweizen. I found that my knowledge of beer types is lacking since I began to homebrew. I enjoy learning and being educated by the patient experts on this site

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Beer Recipes / Re: American wheat
« on: April 04, 2012, 08:44:53 PM »
American wheat is a pretty wide open style so you can do what ever you want.
You're first recipe would look a lot more like Wheat Stout than American Wheat in my opinion.

If you want an American Wheat style, I do one that's AG but you could take a shot at it as an extract.  I also wouldn't bother with a bunch of specialty grains, just a bit for colour should do. 
I'd start with 7 or 8 lbs wheat extract (which as I understand is actually 50/50 wheat/pale or pilsner).
1 - 2 oz black patent added to the water as you heat it up but remove it before it boils.
1/2 oz magnum or other high alpha bittering hop
1 oz saaz or hallertauer (or you could go with an American style hop such as Cascade, centennial etc.)
1/2 oz saaz to at finish. 

Personally, this beer needs to be clean and balanced.  I think your original recipe was a bit too complex.  I'd start simple and then modify.  You say you wan't hoppy but do you want bitter or flavour?  I'd ramp up my late additions to get more hops up front.  Sort of an APA with wheat instead of pure pale. 

As for yeast, my go-to for American wheat is WLP001.

Thanks for the suggestion, that makes sense. the i think the original recipe poster called mine a hoppy amber wheat

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Beer Recipes / Re: American wheat
« on: April 04, 2012, 08:18:38 PM »
yeah we wanted to do more of and American style wheat vs Belgian , but it seems like this recipe is more like a dunkelwiezen vs an American wheat.
hence the confusion, i think i will go with a dunkelweizen style.
However, does anybody have a good American Wheat that could be hopped up?

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Beer Recipes / Re: American wheat
« on: April 04, 2012, 05:27:54 PM »
I guess we want some sort of dunklewiezen/wheat pale ale style. the desired color is less important than the balance between the wheat and hops.

Also what  type of yeast would work best?

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Beer Recipes / Re: American wheat
« on: April 04, 2012, 05:00:28 PM »


I don't know why you want to add dark extract and chocolate malt, but that's a personal choice I guess.  1 1/2 lb. of crystal is a bad idea in extract beer.  There are plenty of unfermentables in there already.  You'll need to do a minimash for the wheat malt and flaked wheat.  The wheat may may have enough distatic power to convert the flakes, but if it was me I'd add at least .5 lb. of pale malt to be safe.
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So if I sub the dark malt with pale malt that would still get a "amber color" and then decrease the crystal malt does that sound better? Would you add anything else?

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Beer Recipes / Re: American wheat
« on: April 04, 2012, 04:49:41 PM »
5gal, and yeah i'm not to concerned with staying the official guidelines. This will be my 3rd attempt at a homebrew and my friend will joining me this time and we both like wheat beers, but wanted a little more "bite" to them.

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Beer Recipes / American wheat
« on: April 04, 2012, 04:34:34 PM »
    so i was thinking of making an American Wheat beer, i wanted to make it hoppier than normal. I like the balance between the wheat and hops. Does this recipe look good?

6.6 pounds, wheat malt extract
    1--1/2 pounds, dark dry malt
    1--1/2 pounds, crystal malt
    1 pound, wheat malt
    1/2 pound, wheat flakes
    1/4 pound, chocolate malt
    2 ounces, of Hallertauer hops (Alpha 4.2) for full boil
    1/2 ounce, Saaz hops (Alpha ??) for 20 minutes
    1/2 ounce, Saaz hops to finish
    yeast

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The Pub / Re: Colt To Bronco.
« on: March 19, 2012, 04:55:26 PM »
The local news and ESPN have barely covered any other story since this brook earlier today. I think people are having a hard time separating Tebow's ability to throw a forward pass well and consistently with his qualities as a human being. Manning is a better thrower and just as upstanding of a person off the field. i say we keep tebow let him learn and improve.

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Ingredients / Re: when to plants hops?
« on: March 19, 2012, 12:58:43 AM »

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It will work a lot better if you tie some twine to the top of the stump for the hops.  The stump is probably too big around for the hops to want to climb around behind it, but i haven't tried it.
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that's a good idea makes total sense. thanks

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Ingredients / Re: when to plants hops?
« on: March 18, 2012, 10:18:14 PM »
My question is what method would see the best growth.

Planting in the ground, not a pot, will give the best growth. 

I suggest using the stump as support.  Native hops in the Gunnison Basin grow up rock escarpments.
Don't worry too much about what the pros do, since you are at home and just want to grow a few pounds for home use.

You could try attaching a little metal pig panel upright to the stump,
to give a rigid grid to grow on. 10 feet high plenty.

Hard to go wrong, if you irrigate. 8)

Good luck.

I would like to plant in the ground, but i don't own the house and i also want make sure the plant does well first. I appreciate all the suggestions form everyone. I think i will see if the stump works well enough by itself with any additional trellis support

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Ingredients / Re: when to plants hops?
« on: March 18, 2012, 12:21:14 PM »
So I have some more questions about planting hops. I'm trying decide if I should just a trellis with a pot or we have a dead tree the stump with be about 8-10ft high. My question is what method would see the best growth. I guess for both methods i could use another trellis like the pros do and string them across. I just wanted to know if the hops would climb the tree as well as a trellis

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Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Favorite Commerical Breweries
« on: March 09, 2012, 01:03:45 PM »
This is a list that's ever changing, but here is mine at this moment...
1.  Odell
2.  AleSmith
3.  Avery
4.  Full Sail
5.  Dry Dock (right around the corner from my house)*
6.  Stone
7.  Oskar Blues
8.  Left Hand
9.  Dogfish
10.  New Belgium
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Dry Dock is great, I have recently discovered them. I really enjoy the brew hut for my homebrew supplies. only  draw in terms of supplies is its a 30min drive for me to get to the neck of the woods, and also you have to navigate the tech center  >:(.

I think that my favorite list could easily go up to 20 regular breweries that i drink, but i tried to pick breweries that i liked all their beers or almost all.

I live in SE Centennial and Dry Dock and Brew Hut are only a 7 min drive from my house.  Dry Dock brews some great beer.  I get all my ingredients from Brew Hut and the staff there is great.

Yeah I live over in the Ken Caryl so the Brew Hut and Beer at home (Broadway and Quincy) are my two local brew shops. however the Brew Hut i think has a better staff. I love dry dock i have not had a bad beer yet, their ESB is great and along with their IPA's, i only wish the bottled all their beers :D

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Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Favorite Commerical Breweries
« on: March 09, 2012, 12:59:35 PM »

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If you're going to pick 10 great local breweries your list is bound to leave off a bunch that are worthy :)
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I agree living in CO i can name like 30breweries off the top of my head that are great and could compete with any national craft brewery

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Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Favorite Commerical Breweries
« on: March 08, 2012, 10:11:35 PM »
Bells
DogFish Head
The rest are Canadian and the rules are very clear that they have to be USA breweries.

lol. I think we can allow Canadian craft breweries, however i'm not sure that i will recognize many of the names,  ;)

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