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All Grain Brewing / Re: Reinheitsgabot and 'Real Ale'
« on: April 02, 2017, 06:25:15 AM »
My point is back to the basics. I don't want hexaflorotrichloro BS in my beer. Sugar, caramel, corn, ...I can live with. (Though I really don't like corn taste in my beer). Good ingredients to produce good beer in a simple, easy way. This is not rocket science.

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Chemistry is science,, though, and the question of what is "natural" is a very complex one.  The industrial process to grow the malt and hops (unless you buy organic) and even to treat municipal water uses more chemicals than anything homebrewers are adding.

There's nothing bad about simplifying process, especially unnecessary process.  Just saying that the question of what is natural, safe, etc is an extremely complex one.  Oversimplifying it can do more harm than good.

All Grain Brewing / Re: Reinheitsgabot and 'Real Ale'
« on: April 02, 2017, 06:12:15 AM »
Real ale has to be fined in the cask, as well.

Beer Recipes / Re: 'Oregon Grey' Ale
« on: April 01, 2017, 09:15:27 AM »
Dishwater Draft.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: It begins...
« on: March 23, 2017, 08:39:57 PM »
I never said you were anti ABI, but it's obvious from the title of the thread, through many of the posts, how many feel.

Many feel that AB and the other big brewers didn't give craft or home brewing a second (or first) thought 30, 20, or even 10 years ago because there was no big money to be made from it.  And now that there is, they feel that it can't possibly be a good thing for us.  And they aren't wrong.

All Grain Brewing / Re: Best Method to Crush Raw Wheat?
« on: March 23, 2017, 08:31:39 PM »
And for a Belgian wit is it correct that I should be using SOFT WHITE Wheat Berries?

I don't have a local source, but I found the following on Amazon:

Would this work best?

Thanks again for all of the help

That's the stuff!

All Grain Brewing / Re: Best Method to Crush Raw Wheat?
« on: March 22, 2017, 02:35:40 PM »
My flour mill would give me flour :D, and I don't like adding flour to my mashes, but it's made specifically for flour (no cracked wheat in my flour mill :().  I much prefer the small bits produced by my MM2 mill.

I've also done precooking wheat berries, as well as pressure cooked wheat berries.  Both of these methods produce fully gelatinized starches ready for conversion, but you'll need to mash them up prior to adding to the mash.  It was this latter steps that made these methods kind of a PITA.  After the couple attempts at precooking, I opted for the less efficient/convertible mill grinding method mentioned in my previous post.

What's wrong with flour​?  The purpose of raw wheat in a wit or lambic is those unfermentables.  You're just wasting money if you don't mill it fine.

All Grain Brewing / Re: Best Method to Crush Raw Wheat?
« on: March 22, 2017, 01:23:12 PM »
A flour mill works best, if you happen to have one.  This is one place in brewing where a corona mill or even a Kitchenaid flour mill attachment is better than a barley roller mill.  Beware, you're going to get a workout if it's not electric.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: It begins...
« on: March 21, 2017, 09:40:05 AM »
I'm not buying Betty Crocker brownie mix anymore. She doesn't share her recipes. What a b****.

You're a homebrewer yet you buy brownie mix?  ;-)

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: It begins...
« on: March 21, 2017, 07:50:05 AM »
Do pro brewers have some sort of responsibility to provide their customers with detailed recipes that will allow us to copy their commercial products? While I do deeply appreciate those pros who do share (I just brewed a Black Butte clone from a recipe that Deschutes shared in "Brew Your Own"), I consider that a generous gift by the brewer rather than my "right" as a consumer. I don't expect my favorite Italian restaurant to provide me with a detailed recipe for their famous red sauce...

No, they have no responsibility, but you're not buying a bag of secret ingredients from your favorite Italian restaurant to make at home. What they're selling here is branding, since I doubt you're even getting the same stuff that Goose Island uses.  That's fine for consumers who want that, but too many people are unaware of how marketing works.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: It begins...
« on: March 21, 2017, 07:44:56 AM »
As has been pointed out in this thread, there are many brewers and homebrew stores who don't like to give out their recipes.  It seems like NB is getting singled out because of the anti-corporate backlash that is somewhat pervasive here. Statements like "I'll never buy from them again now that they're owned by Inbev!" appears to be a little self-righteous to me, kind of like Gerald Broflovski smelling his farts because he owns a Prius.

Brewers maybe, but homebrew stores?  None that I've visited.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: It begins...
« on: March 20, 2017, 02:41:42 PM »
The Destroyer

....if you are buying pre-made kits to clone a beer you like, do you really care what the grain bill is?

I think it's a bad way to teach people to brew, and I'm going to say that loudly.  Feel free to ignore.

The Pub / Re: Brewers Association Top 50 Breweries 2016
« on: March 20, 2017, 02:37:23 PM »
We stopped at Minhas after hitting New Glarus because we saw a sign on the road.  They have a cool beer memorabilia museum in the basement, which may have been left over from the previous owner (it is apparently the second oldest operating brewery in the country, after Yuengling).  The beer was 'crafty' swill that seemed to be targeted to the Canadian market (the owner was a businessman from Canada). Bad IPAs, high gravity grape flavored malt s***, etc.

So, I'm not really sure why they are considered craft.  I know there are some complex rules the BA has but it all seems like a pointless exercise designed to get breweries to do one thing: pay dues.

Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: 36 of the best Tripels in the world
« on: March 19, 2017, 09:09:53 PM »
It's an honor just to show up on on a list like that, let alone place so high. 

Freshness is a major part of import quality, no doubt. Regarding SH, I also think bigger and boozier examples do better in competition flights. 

Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: 36 of the best Tripels in the world
« on: March 17, 2017, 04:54:22 PM »
Yes, congratulations.  Nice company

Nice job.

But Straffe Hendrick?  Really?

And what is wrong with a Straffe Hendrick tripel?  I like it a lot.  The author's "boozy but dry" description is spot on.

Personally I think it's OK, but would never have it behind the Westmalle, or even the Watou.

Hard to argue with blind taste tests though. They seemed to have some good judges.

Unless the dreaded "palate fatigue" set in :-)

Not staying that all long flights like this are invalid but... well, I can't finish this sentence any other way.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: It begins...
« on: March 16, 2017, 01:27:18 PM »
From the instructions:

"· 4.5 lbs Goose Island Milk Porter Brewery Edition Grain Blend"

This is what bothers me, when you start to see proprietary recipes and ingredients that you don't know what they are.  Might as well just start brewing Mr. Beer.

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