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You're not supposed to spit out beer when tasting!

I guess it's ok if this is a first step towards something...  maybe some more reasonable attitudes towards alcohol in this country.  On the other hand, what a waste of legislature time!

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Jeff, I saw that from Wayne this morning on FB. However, he doesn't hold the pursestrings and who knows how much AB might throw at the owner...changing the one mind that matters.
Exactly. When someone offers him tens of millions of dollars that would take care of his family for generations, he'd be stupid not to take it.

Isn't that a bit excessive to take care of his family?  At some point you go from financial security to "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous".  Do you really want spoiled Kardashian kids?  ;)

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Debbie Downer (Cleaning My EHERMS)
« on: February 09, 2015, 05:47:52 AM »
The algae is on the inside of the coil, or the outside?  Is it green?  This seems like a problem with moisture leftover during storage.  If it's the inside, you could blow it out with CO2 after cleaning.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Tasty Sours Accomplished
« on: February 07, 2015, 04:00:32 PM »
Nice, the first bottle after extended aging always a tense moment!

I like Roeselare but I've decided I like the complexity of a Lambic most for a beer that takes years to make.  I usually start with the White Labs sour blend and add secondary bugs from Cantillion, Boon, and any other delicious bottle I have on hand.  Got some nice Michigan balaton cherries for the last batch to secondary on for a kriek.

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Equipment and Software / Re: The ethics of keggles
« on: February 07, 2015, 03:11:02 PM »
I get it, and we shouldn't be stealing kegs.

But the big breweries don't really care and that contributes to the problem.

I tried to return some empty kegs a few years ago that got left behind by a caterer.  Returning the kegs was hard to do.

The distributor didn't want them.  The brewery (Budweiser, if I recall correctly) didn't want to be bothered.  I don't recall the resolution, but we finally found someone to take them.  We might have just taken them to liquor store and left them.  There's a thread on here somewhere because I posted about it at the time.

This was experience when a neighbor gave me a keg that he feel like returning.  I called the liquor store and the distributor whose label was on the keg.  They didn't care and seemed put out that I was insisting that I didn't want to steal their keg.   ???

I took it back to the distributor and basically made them take it.  Seemed kind of crazy.  I don't condone stealing kegs but they make it very hard to be honest.

Paul
I think a major part of the problem is that the distributor and liquor store have no financial risk. The kegs don't belong to them so they lose nothing if you keep it. On the other hand, they do lose if they go out of their way to let people return them.

And, who does the distributor have to please most?  The big breweries.  If anything, you can blame them for using cheap kegs as a loss leader to get the people who don't always return kegs to come in and buy beer.  In the end, it'a almost a subsidy, and it hurts the small brewer.

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Equipment and Software / Re: The ethics of keggles
« on: February 07, 2015, 02:16:37 PM »
I only own one keg and I bought it brand new.  I just think the victimization of big business is an absolute joke.  They are the ones in control.

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Equipment and Software / Re: The ethics of keggles
« on: February 07, 2015, 12:32:52 PM »

And that's why their executives are multi-millionaires and you are not. 

As pointed out earlier, it's not criminal theft by law, if that makes a difference in your ethics..  Failure to return forfeits your deposit.  Don't think they haven't done the math. They are knowingly complicit in underage cash keg sales and choose to ignore it.  Cigarettes don't cause cancer, either.

No, my ethics are personal, not dictated by law.  They are also not dependent on someone else's ethics.  I do what I do because I believe it's the right thing to do.

That is fine.  We all have our personal ethics.  I personally think that our American society has a serious discconnect in corporate vs personal ethics .  It's time the average person starts to look at life from a bottom line view.  Break some laws but the fine is less than the return?  It's the American way!

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Equipment and Software / Re: The ethics of keggles
« on: February 07, 2015, 07:44:33 AM »
If it says Budweiser I wouldn't give a flying eff.  They have so much power and lobbyist money that if it actually affected them, they'd bribe someone to change the deposit law.

Ethics and morals are not dependent on who you're stealing from.

And that's why their executives are multi-millionaires and you are not. 

As pointed out earlier, it's not criminal theft by law, if that makes a difference in your ethics..  Failure to return forfeits your deposit.  Don't think they haven't done the math. They are knowingly complicit in underage cash keg sales and choose to ignore it.  Cigarettes don't cause cancer, either.

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Equipment and Software / Re: The ethics of keggles
« on: February 06, 2015, 05:59:38 AM »

Any brewery or distributor can immediately "change the deposit law" by charging the face value of the keg as a deposit. I don't get why the keg deposit can be as low as 20 or 30 bucks when the replacement cost is at 4 times that. Charge $100 bucks for a deposit a see how many kegs go missing.

Some of the ABC states specify the deposit or maximum deposit by law.  But in general, they don't want to raise the deposit because they make more money catering to the generally underage, poor frat-boy crowd which pays with whatever little cash they have.  The lack of ethics seems to have worked pretty well for the multi-millionaire executives at BMC  :D

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Equipment and Software / Re: The ethics of keggles
« on: February 05, 2015, 06:44:57 PM »
If it says Budweiser I wouldn't give a flying eff.  They have so much power and lobbyist money that if it actually affected them, they'd bribe someone to change the deposit law.

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The Pub / Re: Shot Across The Bow...
« on: February 05, 2015, 06:40:16 PM »
http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/food/ct-elysian-brewing-takeover-20150202-story.html#page=1
There's a pay wall, can we get the Cliff Notes?
It's Dick Cantwell complaining about the ad and then an interview about the Elysian buyout. You can get around the paywall if you Google the article title -- links from Google go straight through
"Craft brewery co-founder not happy with Super Bowl ad snark"

And, the other thing that I didn't realize is that he wasn't for the sale but his two partners were.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: LOTS OF LATE HOPS, NOT MUCH HOP FLAVOR
« on: January 31, 2015, 09:56:39 AM »
Did you buy the hops recently or have you stored them for a while?  Whole leaf or pellet?  Proper storage is important, and I find that leaf hops can be especially unforgiving. 

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The Pub / Re: Packers v Seahawks
« on: January 23, 2015, 12:38:32 PM »
Maybe this is why the Pats could actually catch the ball for once in the game against the Ravens this year.  I hope Amendola doesn't revert to his old ways once they pump the ball up for the Super Bowl.

Too bad, since the Ravens were without so many starters and still almost pulled it out.  All we heard two years ago was, "Oh, the Pats are better and would have won if Talib didn't go out in the second half."  ;)

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The Pub / Re: Elysian Just sold to Anheuser-Busch
« on: January 23, 2015, 12:29:33 PM »
Dick Cantwell?  More like can't dick well, amiright?

Seriously though, if he wants to get out, that's fine.  He's been in it for a long time and deserves a retirement.

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