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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Trappist Yeasts
« on: July 05, 2017, 03:13:38 PM »
Does anyone know where to get a Trappist Yeast that ferments to 12% ABV in 500g quantities?

You will not find a dry Trappist yeast.  It isn,t made.

Are you saying there is no 12% ABV Trappist Yeast? Because I think it was on a page on this website that I read about that. Like one of those informational pages that is kind of like an article or a wiki page for beer info.

No, he's saying that the Trappist strains are only sold by liquid yeast companies.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Trappist Yeasts
« on: July 04, 2017, 06:29:27 PM »
I'm not making any argument other than this: Trappist beer is not a sacrament, it's a purely capitalist enterprise aimed at getting funds for the Monks to maintain grounds, help satellite monasteries, etc.

This is not up for debate and has nothing to do with all the stuff you are posting.

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We should get a Trappist Monk in here to talk about it.

Did you read the article I posted from the Catholic Church that said that they see their act of brewing as parallel to Jesus' act of turning water into Wine? And they literally used to call Yeast "God-is-Good". The Knights Templar followed Jesus' order to "sell your cloak and buy a sword" and fought in the name of Jesus as "The Poor Knights of Christ", and eventually had lands that they had to maintain, and were given gifts and then became the Knights Templar.

I understand what you are saying, but I don't think you understand what I am saying. I made the Mission Trip comparison before. It's not the same as being Baptized, but it is you doing work in the name of the Lord to spread the Lord's name.

And if we are just going purely on the legal standard, Hobby Lobby was able to deny Birth Control (meaning Disobey the Affordable Care Act, which is/was law) to employees, because they believed that to kill a baby the morning after, or at any stage after fertilization was to destroy a soul. And it doesn't even say that in the Bible, that is just their belief. And that is a Franchise store that everyone knows about, and it gets to not follow laws because it has a Religious belief that can not even be found in its Religious text. So legally, even if we just say that the Monks are brewing beer only for money and not because Jesus turned water into Wine, or anything like that, then it still holds up in court.

Hobby Lobby is not avoiding any taxes.  And, you're assuming that court decisions are rational, not political  :)

The Pub / Re: "High End's" Message to Craft
« on: July 04, 2017, 06:18:44 PM »
I know (or knew) a lot of people who drink BMC to get s***faced.  They want to be blackout drunk by the 4th quarter of the game, not the second :-)

I remember San Diego having a good selection everywjere two years ago, but maybe I was only going to "beer bars".  I can see how the average bar or restaurant would have more beers from the big guys.

The Pub / Re: "High End's" Message to Craft
« on: July 03, 2017, 09:56:18 PM »
I'm pretty happy to see this, although unless it get's integrated into tap handles, I don't see a huge impact. Honestly, when I was in San Diego this last weekend I was blown away by the beer selection. Unless I was at a brewery, selection was pretty standard-Ballast point, Elysian, 10 Barrel, Golden Road, Corona, & Domestics. Some great beers there, but I can completely support some of the smaller guys in trying to get some tap space. Anything you can do to help distinguish yourself.

Intentional satire here?  Ballast Point is owned by Corona's parent and the other three are all High End (Inbev).

The Pub / Re: Aaaaaarrrrrrrgh!
« on: July 01, 2017, 09:18:43 PM »
 :(  >:( Well, at least it was the garage.  That could ruin a lot of stuff if it happened inside.

The Pub / Re: "High End's" Message to Craft
« on: July 01, 2017, 09:08:03 PM »
They are all repeating what they told themselves when they sold out!

If i am on the fence between 2 beers and one has the bottle and the other doesn't, i am going with the beer that shows the bottle.

And if the one with the bottle tastes like crap? What then?

There is a lot of bad craft beer out there. That doesn't mean I want to see good ones go down the tubes but a label isn't going to solve this issue.

The label isn't meant to solve that problem.  It has nothing to do with indicating the quality of the beer.  It's just a piece of information.  What you do with that information is up to you.

What's the point then? To identify independently made beer that is good and bad?

There's good and bad beer of all stripes. Inbev could brew any craft beer they wanted, so why are they buying breweries?  For the branding, which was based on some level of "authenticity".  I don't care if people buy it or not but this is at least forcing some level of truth in advertising for those who buy solely based on marketing (and let's face it, this is the majority of consumers).

It's not going to stop any of their distribution practices, but it can at least expose some of the deceptive marketing that is so blatantly using small brewery cachet.

The Pub / Re: "High End's" Message to Craft
« on: July 01, 2017, 03:24:58 PM »
Why don't they just put "Owned by Anheuser Busch-Inbev" on their labels and let the consumer decide? ::)

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Trappist Yeasts
« on: June 30, 2017, 09:59:14 PM »
The Federal Government doesn't even have the right to set drinking ages. The way the Congress got a unified drinking age across the country was by saying they wouldn't give money from their highway fund to any State that went below a drinking age of 21.

That's true, but they can still taxing it.  Federal excise taxes are baked in to the price of every beer you drink.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Trappist Yeasts
« on: June 30, 2017, 08:35:29 PM »
Colorado Law > Federal Law in this issue.

There are federal taxes and state taxes.  I have no idea what the situation is with the TTB and sacremental wine but saying that state law supercedes federal law is really not true.

Beer Recipes / Re: Cathedral of Beer: Low Oxygen Trappist Ales
« on: June 30, 2017, 08:12:37 PM »
There are many ways that traditional bottle conditioning can go wrong.  Not mixing priming sugar properly, bottling before the yeast is truly done, infections in bottles... safety is always required.  Commercial breweries obviously have higher stakes due to the liability issues, not knowing how their beer is treated or stored after it leaves the warehouse, and others, but these aren't unique to spunding.  If I were risk averse, I wouldn't bottle, period.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Trappist Yeasts
« on: June 30, 2017, 08:05:47 PM »
I also helped someone with an organized retail theft case, and got it dropped to theft because it was under $500. And I got someone's 2nd credit card fraud charge dropped, because they used 1 card in 2 places. And I helped someone with an Involuntary Manslaughter charge, and he was in a wheelchair and the other guy was dead.

Well as all the good lawyers say, This is Not Legal Advice and Should Not Be Construed As Such.  But if I were you I'd be a little more careful because you don't want to be on the wrong side of the IRS.

Beer Recipes / Re: Cathedral of Beer: Low Oxygen Trappist Ales
« on: June 30, 2017, 06:18:56 PM »
While you may be able to get lucky bottle spunding with that, you are playing with glass and pressure, and its not something that should be approached to haphazardly.

I'd say a FFT with wort and yeast pulled from the fermenting batch (same yeast and wort composition) and calibrated test equipment (hydrometer or refractometer) are more than sufficient for safety purposes.

Also it should be noted that in the same writeup I advocate for carbonating lower than is traditional for this style.

Did you get anything else out of the article? Was it a good read at least?

educated brewing professionals think otherwise.

Who are these people?  What do they say exactly?  It would be helpful to post it here, unlike these non-helpful posts you generally have.

I have not bottle-spunded but I trust the results of a FFT.

Going Pro / Re: Retail License Questions
« on: June 29, 2017, 11:36:35 PM »
Feel pretty confident that the TTB is not handing out any type of license to a group with a primary purpose to violate federal law.

Lol. Marijuana is legal here. And there are already meet and greets where people pay $10 to get in and then they can smoke and buy alcohol there. So it's already happening. Good point though, if it weren't already worked out I might be worried about it.

And you have to pay cash.  Why?  Because no bank (which needs federal licensing) will touch it.

I'm not against it but this is the reality of the situation right now.

Banks accept it now. Again, the Cole Memorandum. I'll get a link.

Basically what the Cole Memorandum says is 3 things:
1. Don't mess with State Marijuana Laws, just focus on real crime.
2. Native American Nations can legalize Marijuana, regardless of the US State that Landlocks them
3. Keep Marijuana out of illegal channels (The Controlled Substances Act does not Ban drugs outright)

Also, look up DEA form 225, and protocol found in 21 CFR 1301 and 81 FR 53846.

This company legally sells Cocaine:

Selling schedule II drugs to the healthcare industry is really not relevant to this discussion.  Almost all dispensaries are still running a cash business.  A memorandum from 2011 is not binding, especially with a new attorney general who has different priorities.

If you are not buying or selling marijuana, there probably won't be a problem.  But the concern that the TTB would reject that application for it is real.

Aside from that, the people who said that local licensing and zoning are a bigger deal are correct.

All Grain Brewing / Re: Examining Oxygen Ingress: Should I Pre-boil?
« on: June 29, 2017, 11:02:38 PM »
I was hesitant at first to add another step, but pre-boiling really doesn't add all that much time as long as you have a decent chiller.  At this point it seems easier to me than attempting any alternate methods of water deoxygenation (yeast + sugar scavenging, for example).

All Grain Brewing / Re: No sparge brewing
« on: June 29, 2017, 11:00:13 PM »

I average about 85-90% (100% conversion) efficiency on no sparge for average gravity beers. There is no reason to sparge if you have the room.

Seems like that goes against the math I've seen, mostly on Kai's site.  No sparge can be pretty good but there's a practical limit of brewhouse efficiency due to grain absorption.

Edit: unless you BIAB and squeeze, I suppose.  But without it you're losing a non-negligible amount of first wort and the sugars along with it.

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