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Equipment and Software / Re: The ethics of keggles
« on: February 07, 2015, 09:16:37 PM »
I only own one keg and I bought it brand new.  I just think the victimization of big business is an absolute joke.  They are the ones in control.

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Equipment and Software / Re: The ethics of keggles
« on: February 07, 2015, 07:32:52 PM »

And that's why their executives are multi-millionaires and you are not. 

As pointed out earlier, it's not criminal theft by law, if that makes a difference in your ethics..  Failure to return forfeits your deposit.  Don't think they haven't done the math. They are knowingly complicit in underage cash keg sales and choose to ignore it.  Cigarettes don't cause cancer, either.

No, my ethics are personal, not dictated by law.  They are also not dependent on someone else's ethics.  I do what I do because I believe it's the right thing to do.

That is fine.  We all have our personal ethics.  I personally think that our American society has a serious discconnect in corporate vs personal ethics .  It's time the average person starts to look at life from a bottom line view.  Break some laws but the fine is less than the return?  It's the American way!

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Equipment and Software / Re: The ethics of keggles
« on: February 07, 2015, 02:44:33 PM »
If it says Budweiser I wouldn't give a flying eff.  They have so much power and lobbyist money that if it actually affected them, they'd bribe someone to change the deposit law.

Ethics and morals are not dependent on who you're stealing from.

And that's why their executives are multi-millionaires and you are not. 

As pointed out earlier, it's not criminal theft by law, if that makes a difference in your ethics..  Failure to return forfeits your deposit.  Don't think they haven't done the math. They are knowingly complicit in underage cash keg sales and choose to ignore it.  Cigarettes don't cause cancer, either.

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Equipment and Software / Re: The ethics of keggles
« on: February 06, 2015, 12:59:38 PM »

Any brewery or distributor can immediately "change the deposit law" by charging the face value of the keg as a deposit. I don't get why the keg deposit can be as low as 20 or 30 bucks when the replacement cost is at 4 times that. Charge $100 bucks for a deposit a see how many kegs go missing.

Some of the ABC states specify the deposit or maximum deposit by law.  But in general, they don't want to raise the deposit because they make more money catering to the generally underage, poor frat-boy crowd which pays with whatever little cash they have.  The lack of ethics seems to have worked pretty well for the multi-millionaire executives at BMC  :D

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Equipment and Software / Re: The ethics of keggles
« on: February 06, 2015, 01:44:57 AM »
If it says Budweiser I wouldn't give a flying eff.  They have so much power and lobbyist money that if it actually affected them, they'd bribe someone to change the deposit law.

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The Pub / Re: Shot Across The Bow...
« on: February 06, 2015, 01:40:16 AM »
http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/food/ct-elysian-brewing-takeover-20150202-story.html#page=1
There's a pay wall, can we get the Cliff Notes?
It's Dick Cantwell complaining about the ad and then an interview about the Elysian buyout. You can get around the paywall if you Google the article title -- links from Google go straight through
"Craft brewery co-founder not happy with Super Bowl ad snark"

And, the other thing that I didn't realize is that he wasn't for the sale but his two partners were.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: LOTS OF LATE HOPS, NOT MUCH HOP FLAVOR
« on: January 31, 2015, 04:56:39 PM »
Did you buy the hops recently or have you stored them for a while?  Whole leaf or pellet?  Proper storage is important, and I find that leaf hops can be especially unforgiving. 

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The Pub / Re: Packers v Seahawks
« on: January 23, 2015, 07:38:32 PM »
Maybe this is why the Pats could actually catch the ball for once in the game against the Ravens this year.  I hope Amendola doesn't revert to his old ways once they pump the ball up for the Super Bowl.

Too bad, since the Ravens were without so many starters and still almost pulled it out.  All we heard two years ago was, "Oh, the Pats are better and would have won if Talib didn't go out in the second half."  ;)

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The Pub / Re: Elysian Just sold to Anheuser-Busch
« on: January 23, 2015, 07:29:33 PM »
Dick Cantwell?  More like can't dick well, amiright?

Seriously though, if he wants to get out, that's fine.  He's been in it for a long time and deserves a retirement.

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The Pub / Re: Uh-oh... Lagunitas is going after Sierra
« on: January 14, 2015, 01:28:20 AM »
So they trademarked serif fonts?  There are no other similarities.

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The Pub / Re: the quality of American sours
« on: January 13, 2015, 02:45:20 PM »
I think the variation is large, like the craft beer industry itself.  There are some excellent American brett and sour beers... Allagash, Jolly Pumpkin, and Russian River really do them well.  On the other hand, there are a bunch of others that taste like a (dirty) kitchen sink... diacetyl, enteric, and other flavors from a "the more wild and uncontrolled, the better!" mentality. 

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Classiest beer style
« on: January 13, 2015, 02:37:55 PM »
The times I've seen British guys in suits in pubs, they've been drinking Stella  8)

Nothing wrong with that IMO, Stella is a very tasty beer.

Wow, how perception can vary. In Belgium, Stella is about as classy as Gary Glitter shouting out his innocence in court.

Now that's funny!

What about Jupiler?   ;)


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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Classiest beer style
« on: January 12, 2015, 06:09:18 PM »
Now this is class!



National upped their game with the release of French 76, "The Champagne of Malt Liquors!".



http://www.taverntrove.com/items/French-76-Malt-Liquor-Bottles-Paper-Label-National-Brewing-Company_34531.php

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