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I loved it so much, I'm brewing the Widmer W10 recipe from BYO once again this weekend.  I do add oak chips to the fermenter though.

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Greetings all!

I will be makeing a trek from Michigan to Portland On the week of July 16th to 25th and touring the upper Oregon and lower Washington area. 

Is anyone aware of hop farms giving tours during that week?  I would love to visit acers and acers of hops, and maybe even see some of the equipment. 


Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated!!!

Welcome to my back yard!

The advice on HOPSDirect is terrific.  If you come as far north as Yakima, check out the area by 1st and D streets.  There are three of four hop processing plants that may give tours.  I know one has a company store of sorts.

For fields, if you take highway 24 East out of Yakima, you will drive five miles and see nothing but hop yards.  Too bad you won't be in town on Oct 2.  Fresh hop festival in downtown Yakima.  All brewers have to bring at least one beer brewed within 24 hours of hops coming off the vines.

I hope you enjoy your stay in Washington.

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Lot's of opinions on this subject, for sure.  I helped stewart one competition, and have entered two.  I enjoyed the feedback on both I entered, and it was interesting to see how a comp is run by stewarting. 

All I will say is the folks that do judging, and run the competitions are terrific.  They get nothing out of it, other than the good feeling of being a home brewer. 

If you don't like the system, get involved, and work to change it from the inside.  Like many have said, it's easy to whine about what's f'ed up. 


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I'll have to watch this when I get home from work tonight.  But, I did brew the W10 recipe from the current BYO article.  Tried the first few pints last night.  Whatever you call it, whether or not it get's it's own catagory, it is a tasty beer.  I modified the recipe just a bit and added french oak chips to the fermenters.  

I've brewed about 100 gallons so far this year, and this is certainly one of the best.  It will be part of my regular rotation.

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I think it's because judging beer is very subjective.  And in the case "group think" may well be better than individual opinions.  Hopefully others will respond.  I'm just kind of guessing. 

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Black IPA?
« on: July 08, 2010, 10:30:11 AM »
I jumped on the bandwagon, and brewed one of the recipes from the current BYO.  The W10 is a decent beer, and I had a black IPA from Iron Horse in Washington and it was great.  Nice, oaky front end, with that great IPA bitterness.  

Does it deserve it's on style?  Who knows.

But, more and more breweries are marketing a Black IPA, or Cascadian Dark Ale.  I think 21A even has one out now.  And their Brew Free or Die is one of the best IPA's to be had.  

For mine, I still have about two weeks before I know how good it is.

Well, I kegged up my W10 last night, and it's carbonating now.  Should be done tonight or tomorrow.  It sure tasted good int he hydrometer test tube.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: My first Lager - Munich Helles
« on: July 07, 2010, 07:28:35 AM »
micsager, did you pitch @ 44F like Jamil does?

Nope, I pitched at about 55.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Black IPA?
« on: July 07, 2010, 07:28:07 AM »
"Schwarzbier has been brewed since the middle ages"

Ok.  I said I was relatively uninformed, but this much, I knew.  :)

 So schwarzbier is grandfathered in, even though the grounds for distinguishing it as a separate style are no longer acceptable and applicable to modern beers?  Or is Black IPA only worthy of being its own style when it has been around for several centuries?  I'm just curious on the thought behind how this type of thing gets decided.

I'm unsure how the BJCP will decide if this should be a style on it's own.  To me the biggest indicator would be how many Cat 23 beers come in as this style.  If it begins to overwhelm Cat 23, then maybe it should get it's own style.  BYO had "style guidelines."

I'm gonna keg my version of W10 from the BYO recipe this weekend.  I added some oak chips to the fermenter.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: My first Lager - Munich Helles
« on: July 06, 2010, 09:55:07 PM »
Well, I'm now on my fifth pint of this Helles.  Very nice malty flavor, not too sweet.  OMG.  (It was worth it)

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General Homebrew Discussion / My first Lager - Munich Helles
« on: July 06, 2010, 08:06:48 AM »
Well guys, I started carbonating my Munich Helles yesterday morning.  Should be ready to try tonight or tomorrow. 

I used JZ's recipe from Brewing Clasic Styles.  Fermented primary for two weeks at 50 degrees, transferred to secondary and let it sit three more weeks.  Then, transferred to kegs (10 gallon batch) and gased it just to pressure.  Then let it sit at 40 degrees for another two weeks.  And now it's carbonating.

I sure hope it is worth all this.......   Lagers are a bit of a pain.  But if it's good, then all is good.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Black IPA?
« on: July 02, 2010, 08:11:20 PM »
I jumped on the bandwagon, and brewed one of the recipes from the current BYO.  The W10 is a decent beer, and I had a black IPA from Iron Horse in Washington and it was great.  Nice, oaky front end, with that great IPA bitterness.  

Does it deserve it's on style?  Who knows.

But, more and more breweries are marketing a Black IPA, or Cascadian Dark Ale.  I think 21A even has one out now.  And their Brew Free or Die is one of the best IPA's to be had.  

For mine, I still have about two weeks before I know how good it is.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 2011 NHC location?
« on: June 28, 2010, 09:47:32 AM »
Come on, I won't tell anyone...   LOL.   

thanks for the dates.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Cascadia Dark Ale (Black IPA)
« on: June 28, 2010, 09:34:47 AM »
Good deal.  The W10 called for Carafa Special II for the "black."  Do you use that, or something else?  And what do you think of me adding the oak chips?

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 2011 NHC location?
« on: June 28, 2010, 09:30:14 AM »
Do we know hotel and exact dates? 

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General Homebrew Discussion / Cascadia Dark Ale (Black IPA)
« on: June 28, 2010, 09:29:11 AM »
Both Zymergy and BYO have articles on this "new" style of beer.  One actually opined that The Sam Adams Longshot was Cat 23 this year becasue they want a black IPA to compete with Widmer W10.

Well, as I live in "cascadia" I jumped on the bandwagaon yeesterday and brewed the W10 recipe from BYO.  Although I did add some oak chips to the fermenter that was not part of the recipe. 

Anyone else trying these recipes? 

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