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All Grain Brewing / Re: First time doing a true lager
« on: April 17, 2014, 02:21:39 PM »
I read I can't remember where, that lagers require an optimal concentration that only pure o2 can provide.

The word require can be subjective in the brewing world

You're a wise man, Jim.  One of biggest issues at our club meetings is folks that claim to have the only way to do something.  There are many ways to a great pint of beer.  And even more to an average one. 

All Grain Brewing / Re: First time doing a true lager
« on: April 17, 2014, 09:01:12 AM »
It's only been at 36 over night.  If I raise it back up to 55 or so, would the yeast come back to life?  Or would that cause more problems than it would solve? 

All Grain Brewing / First time doing a true lager
« on: April 17, 2014, 08:07:30 AM »
OK, we finally bit the bullet and figured we'd give this a try.  Brewing a Classic Pilsner.  OG was 1.57 and my target FG was 1.014. 

After three weeks in primary at 53 degrees, we were down to 1.028, so I figured time to the diacytel rest, raised the temperature to 62, two days later down to 1.018.  Last night we transferred to corny for the lagering part of this process.   It's now at 36 degrees, in a corny.  I purged the corny as I was filling, and left a little head pressure on.  No line is currently hooked up.

Over the next month, will I see any continued fermentation and hit that 1.014 number, or am I stuck with a slightly sweet lager?

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Gusher Infection?
« on: April 10, 2014, 01:39:15 PM »
With soap?

I used automatic dishwasher detergent. 

The process requires two passes through one's dishwasher.  The first pass is made with automatic dishwasher detergent.   The second pass is made with only water and heat dry.   The second pass ensures that one's bottles are residue free and sanitary, as bottle temperature exceeds 60C/140F (the temperature at which most vegetative cells are killed).   This technique only works if the people who live in one's house rinse their dishes well before placing them into the dishwasher.  The dishwasher used in this process must clean, free of food debris, and empty before the second pass is made with only bottles on bottling day.  The first pass can be combined with the day's dishes (i.e., as the bottles are used).  Beer must be rinsed from the bottles before they are placed into the dishwasher on the first pass.

Whenever I do bottle, I also use the dishwasher.  But rather than dish soap, I use PBW.  So far, so good. 

Classifieds / Re: For sale: Craftbeer for the Homebrewer
« on: April 08, 2014, 09:02:56 AM »
My wife purchased Craftbeer for the Homebrewer for me. I will ask $10 + cheapest shipping.

I bought that book for myself.  Why don't you like it?  It's the only "clone" book I've ever seen that modifies hop additions based on whether you are doing all grain, or extract.  I found that quite intriguing.  Plus, it has an Avery Maharajah clone recipe that is very good.     

The Pub / Re: Pet Peeves
« on: April 01, 2014, 09:19:10 AM »

In homebrewing drives me nuts when people insist that their way of brewing is the only way to make great beer (you can only use glass or fly sparge etc). As a wise man once said… "There are many ways to the top of the mountain."

I'm with ya on this one.  +1000

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Dissent with Style
« on: March 27, 2014, 01:47:37 PM »
Well, then I guess it's good live in the boonies!   :) :)

Equipment and Software / Re: Sanitizing buckets
« on: March 27, 2014, 08:01:27 AM »
I saw a video recently where the brewer was simply spraying a sanitizing solution from a spray bottle and coating the fermenting bucket. Does anyone do this instead of filling the bucket with solution? This seems to be a lot less time consuming and a water saver.

When I used buckets, this is exactly what I did.  Even today with my conicals, I spray them down pretty good.


General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Dissent with Style
« on: March 27, 2014, 07:59:49 AM »
Are you really paying $7.50 a smack pack?  Wow, I guess it's good to live close to Portland. My LHBS's retail price is $5.50.

Yep -- -or-

Don't even get me started on Malt prices out here. All I will say is it would take a lot of sacks to pay for a grain mill.

Used to pay ~5.99 in Northern CA.

That's brutal.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Dissent with Style
« on: March 26, 2014, 03:22:44 PM »
So the term "all" is used loosely by these folks? I'm not sure I understand the why of it.

Brewery A was a traditional German lager brewery (moving away from that recently) with a restaurant attached. Must have an IPA and Stout on tap at the restaurant so they brewed those infrequently on their smaller (14bbl?) system and "borrowed" yeast. Those beers were restaurant only with some keg sales. Brewery B brews ales primarily, with the occasional lager, dunkel or maibock. Win-win.

If a proper pitch of yeast without a started costs us about $15, imagine what it costs somebody with a 30bbl system.

Are you really paying $7.50 a smack pack?  Wow, I guess it's good to live close to Portland. My LHBS's retail price is $5.50. 

The Pub / Re: Pet Peeves
« on: March 26, 2014, 07:51:44 AM »
Littering! Think that doesn't relate to beer and brewing? Most of the cans I pick up are light beer cans. Bud Light the clear winner although recently there has beena  surge of Coors light bottles. A$$H0LES!

+1. Around here it's keystone or blue mountains (same same) only people from Montana drink bud light.

hey. i am moving to montana, or maybe vancouver washington. still trying to decide.  gotsta get out of illinois

Go for Vancouver.  Portland has a great beer scene. 

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Homebrew Competition Rules
« on: March 26, 2014, 07:47:32 AM »
Lets see, learn to brew well, buy equipment,  ingredients, invest a month, pay entry fee, pay shipping, become a judge, attend competition, weasel way into your beers flight, get lucky enough to judge your own beer and pick it out of the group, somehow convince others that it should go to BOS, get on BOS judging panel, convince others your beer is best, accept medal. Or... just go buy a medal.


Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Starter necessary?
« on: March 20, 2014, 02:42:29 PM »
If it feels like it might pop id poke a tiny hole in the top with a streril pin and set it in a big zip bag to keep fruit flies out. But I wouldn't dick the temp around without a good reason

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+1.  Been there, done that. 

Equipment and Software / Re: Ditching the glass carboy...
« on: March 20, 2014, 02:36:14 PM »
I ditched my glass carboys after listening to brewstrong about the end of primary/secondary fermentation.  And never went back.  With my small commercial operation, I know have 5, 1bbl conicals, but for the first year I still used buckets.  So many, I had to find a better source, if you like buckets, try this:

And the lid is less than $2.00

I have about 40 of them for the taking if any of you are ever in Port Angeles, WA.

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