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All Grain Brewing / Re: Brewing today
« on: February 11, 2015, 12:23:57 PM »

I see that you keep a paper-based log, which is a dying art.  That practice will pay off in spades in the years to come.  I have logs that date back to the early nineties.  I still keep a paper-based log.
I use an iPad app to build and manage my recipes. I use the notebook for brew day notes. Keeping the written notes just makes me feel closer to the process I guess. I'm old school.

I print the recipe out of BeerSmith, and use the back side for notes, and keep them all. 

Homebrew Clubs / Oh what a relief it is......
« on: February 11, 2015, 12:02:33 PM »
A pal and I started a club in our community back in 2008.  The next closest club was over 60 miles away.  He puttered out after about a year, and at some meeting meetings we had but 3-4 folks.  We considered shutting it down.  But stuck with it.  Then in 2011, a LHBS opened in town, and agreed to host meetings.  Our club now has about 300+ folks on the email list, and about 35 paid members.  Usual attendance is about 20 folks.  We are starting to outgrow the LHBS. 

Anyway, I have been part of the leadership from the beginning.  I don't think most folks really understand the work involved in running a club.  In 2014, I stepped down from any leadership role, but SWMBO was elected president, so that, of course, included my participation.  It's now 2015, and we have completely new leadership.  I haven't missed a meeting yet. 

But oh what a relief it is to know I don't HAVE to go to the meeting this Sunday.

(although it is a bit like you child going off to college, LOL)

Equipment and Software / Re: The ethics of keggles
« on: February 09, 2015, 01:56:01 PM »
If it says Budweiser I wouldn't give a flying eff.  They have so much power and lobbyist money that if it actually affected them, they'd bribe someone to change the deposit law.

Ethics and morals are not dependent on who you're stealing from.

+1 million.  Thanks Denny. 

Equipment and Software / Re: OxyClean vs. PBW
« on: February 05, 2015, 04:34:47 PM »
Is one step the same as oxyclean?

In the same family, but different.

I was just sent samples of 3 products from Craftmeister, a part of the company that makes BTF iodophor.  There are keg and carboy cleaning tabs, powdered alkaline brewery wash, and powdered oxygen brewery wash.  I'll report after I have a chance to use them.  You can check them out at

I got that same sample pack Denny.  (made contact at last years NHC)  IME the ABW works just a little better than PBW.  And a 40lb bucket delivered is only $120 vs $220 for PBW.  I just ordered my second bucket.

Equipment and Software / Re: Submersible pump keg cleaner
« on: February 05, 2015, 04:26:07 PM »
I have seen some builds for a keg cleaner that uses a submersible pump, but I am wondering what temperature those pumps can handle. I have a Northern tool 1/8 hp submersible pump that I can use, but I am concerned about ruining it with hot temperatures. Anyone know the max temp for one of these pumps? It wasn't mentioned in the manual that I found.

I've used the one that many homebrew suppliers sell.  I use as hot as water as I can.  In 3-4 years, never a problem. 

Equipment and Software / Re: The ethics of keggles
« on: February 05, 2015, 04:20:31 PM »
I bought a couple of kegs off a liquor store years ago... yea, probably 'stolen'. I don't feel guilty about it, they were a bit dented up and from budwieser. I didn't hurt any craft brewery in the process. I don't know why there always has to be ethics around buying used kegs... there is so much illegal stuff going on everyday, much much worse than this and we want to accept the guilt of buying a possibly 'stolen' keg... there are bigger threats out there to worry about.

I don't even know what to say. 

All Grain Brewing / Re: How do you know what mash/sparge volumes to use?
« on: February 04, 2015, 10:16:24 AM »
For fly sparging, you want to mash as thick as you can work with.

Can you explain this more?  I brew 1bbl batches, and the grain bill is between 65 and 90 pounds depending on recipe.  I almost always just add 20 gallons for mash, then roughly figure each 10 lbs of grain will retain a gallon of water, and fly sparge the right volume to hit 36 gallons.  Most sessions, I hit the 36 right on.......

Equipment and Software / The ethics of keggles
« on: February 04, 2015, 10:07:17 AM »
8-10 years ago, before I knew what I know now about kegs and such, I purchased a used home brewery system that included 3 keggles.  I used it for many years, and as I learned these were probably stolen kegs (I really have no clue) I began feeling bad about using them.  But of course, not bad enough to stop. 

3 years ago I did stop using them, but only because we got some bigger boilermakers from Blichmann.  Those three keggles have been in storage ever since.  The thing is, now what do I do with them?  I have no clue if they were purchased legitimately, but I rather doubt it.  The system was 5 years old when I bought it.  So it's been close to 20 years.  I'd like to sell them, but somehow that doesn't seem right to me.  but then, I don't want to store them for all eternity either. 

Any thoughts?

The Pub / Re: Elysian Just sold to Anheuser-Busch
« on: February 03, 2015, 03:37:57 PM »
To people like us, beer is important.  Craft beer, homebrewing, quality, etc.  In all honesty, most beer drinkers probably don't care what they drink.  We struggle to understand that because we are passionate about beer.  The average beer drinker is probably fine with BudMillerCoors products.  That is beginning to change more and more thankfully.  If Elysian beer still makes a high quality product, I will buy it again.


I say we give them a few years, and see what happens.  The Friday night this news broke I was serving beer at a local beerfest, and the guys from Elysian were a couple booths down.  They indicated lots of folks were flipping them crap about the sale.  (and then asked for a beer)  From what this guy said, the employees had no clue until it was public. 

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Quality, Impact, and Commercial Appeal
« on: January 26, 2015, 04:21:25 PM »
I think it's a regional thing.  When back on the East Coast, I see Boston Lager on most tap selections.  I don't think I've ever seen it on tap in Washington State.  But Alaska Amber sure is. 

The Pub / Re: stop drinking for a month
« on: January 21, 2015, 10:27:54 AM »

Anyone else doing something similar?

Not me. 

Ingredients / Re: Freshness of Grain Bill Impact
« on: January 16, 2015, 12:26:41 PM »
In our little brewery, we brew about 5bbls a month. (a little more in summer)  I buy a pallet of base malt on each order.  (40 sacks)

Like someone mentioned above, most grain has been in storage for quite a while before the end user ever gets it.  I'm in the camp that uncrushed base malt will last a couple years.  Although I've never really tested that. 

Going Pro / Re: footwear
« on: January 13, 2015, 09:48:15 AM »
Do the x-tra tuff boots have good arch support?  They look nice, but I wonder about all day on a cement floor????

Going Pro / footwear
« on: January 13, 2015, 09:14:17 AM »
About a year ago there was a thread on good footwear for brewing.  I rather dismissed it at the time, but now realize how nice good footwear could be.  After 6-7 hours in the brewery and on the cement floor, by knees are killing me.  And the next morning is even worse.  I tried to find that thread, but came up empty.  I hate to start a new thread on this, but any help you veterans could give would be great. 

Kegging and Bottling / Re: Beer Gun Tips
« on: December 30, 2014, 01:13:03 PM »
Every time this post thread comes up I think of that little black rubber tip that falls off the beer gun into the bottle that you're trying to fill.  I thought this would be a topic about how to keep it from falling off.
I had to buy one at my lhbs and couldn't believe how much they charged, so I mentioned it to the guy at the Blichman booth at NHC and he gave me a small handful of them at no charge.  It was a nice score.

Yep, I think a bunch of us got a good supply of those tips.  And of course now that I have the extra, I've never lost one in a bottle.  Same with my hydrometer, once I bought a back-up, I've never broken one. 

And to the OP:  Another hint is to ahve the keg at the same height as the bottles.  At least it helps me. 

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