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I am moving to Chico this summer and while visiting houses this past week, I went out for dinner at the sierra nevada brewery tap room. I was shocked to learn that there was no discount for AHA members!!! The irony is when I first became a member it was because of a AHA membership rally I attended at the sierra nevada brewery in 2006. Anyone know why we do not have a discount there? Ken Grossman has been so supportive of homebrewers, I am a little surprised by this.

I'd say feel lucky you live in a state where these discounts are even available.  Hate to tell you all, but the PDP will do you little good in Seattle for NHC.  They are illegal here.

I should clarify, you can get a discount on food and t-shirts.  But not on beer.

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I am moving to Chico this summer and while visiting houses this past week, I went out for dinner at the sierra nevada brewery tap room. I was shocked to learn that there was no discount for AHA members!!! The irony is when I first became a member it was because of a AHA membership rally I attended at the sierra nevada brewery in 2006. Anyone know why we do not have a discount there? Ken Grossman has been so supportive of homebrewers, I am a little surprised by this.

I'd say feel lucky you live in a state where these discounts are even available.  Hate to tell you all, but the PDP will do you little good in Seattle for NHC.  They are illegal here. 

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Going Pro / Re: TTB "field Review"
« on: May 29, 2012, 10:48:48 AM »
Can't you ask the TTB ?

Well, I gave them a call.  They are very helpful for government folks.  Referral review and field review seldom happens.  You do not need everything in place and ready to "turn on," should they decide to to do a field review.  But, it should be more than (and this is a quote) "just a cement foundation and a stack of 2X4's..."


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Going Pro / Re: TTB "field Review"
« on: May 29, 2012, 10:26:40 AM »
Can't you ask the TTB ?

LOL.  That just makes too much sense.  Thanks Denny. 

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Going Pro / TTB "field Review"
« on: May 29, 2012, 08:54:58 AM »
Right now out TTB application status is "specialist review" it says that is due on 6-16.  Then it's "referral review," then "field review."

Does anyone know what exactly is involved int he field review?  I assume they come to our place and make sure everything we've told them in the application true and correct.  Do we have to everything set up and ready to run at that point?


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Going Pro / Re: Typical brewers salary?
« on: May 24, 2012, 10:24:59 AM »
For a brewpub?

I've been offered $15.00/hr as a 1099 contracting employee.
Not sure how they can justify calling you a 1099 employee, but that's another thread.

True, I should have said "contractor"

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We're gonna give a Rhubarb IPA a shot. 

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Going Pro / Re: Typical brewers salary?
« on: May 24, 2012, 10:09:05 AM »
For a brewpub?

I've been offered $15.00/hr as a 1099 contracting employee.
That mean no benefits, no health insurance, no vacation and no unemployment if you loose job.
Just saying.

That's right.  However, the guy's a friend, and his son just moved out of town.  So, I'll be helping him on the weekends for a couple months.  No illusions of giving up my day job. 

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Going Pro / Re: OK, we're doing it
« on: May 23, 2012, 07:41:50 AM »
Awesome. We are considering the county for our next build due to lower regulations. Still have to deal with health department but building code much easier.

Are you coming to NHC?  If so, stop by the WAHA booth and give my beer a try.  If your bringing any beer, I'd love to try yours.  I appreciate all your comments. 

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Going Pro / Re: Typical brewers salary?
« on: May 23, 2012, 07:36:12 AM »
For a brewpub?

I've been offered $15.00/hr as a 1099 contracting employee. 

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Going Pro / Re: OK, we're doing it
« on: May 23, 2012, 07:35:13 AM »
Well, we're almost past the posting requirement from our state LCB.  And the TTB website now has our application "under review"

I guess this is where find out what other hurdles there may (or may not) be..........

Are you being made to hang "food grade" lights over your brewing area? What about an explosion proof room to grind grain in? Are you having to install a solid waste interceptor in front of the city sewage lines? These were all hurdles we had to deal with on a local level, even on a single bbl brewery. Also, if you are using a mash paddle you may need a 3 bay sink large enough to hold the MP. Of course, we don't use one.  ;)

This is the best part of being in an unincorporated area.  No city government to worry about.  Only the county.  And, of the two other breweries in my county, none of that has ever been a concern.

Now, having said that.  I've had a nice stainless, 3 bay sink in my brewery for quite some time.  It makes keeping things clean for easy.  (a local pizza shop closed up, and had a sale on all their used equipment.  I really wanted the nice 3 sankey kegerator, but my wallet couldn't handle that purchase.  Oh well, the stainless sink only cost me $50.00.

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Going Pro / Re: OK, we're doing it
« on: May 22, 2012, 10:00:22 AM »
Well, we're almost past the posting requirement from our state LCB.  And the TTB website now has our application "under review"

I guess this is where find out what other hurdles there may (or may not) be..........


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Going Pro / Re: OK, we're doing it
« on: May 18, 2012, 09:45:23 AM »
Absolutely!!! Agree 110%. I just remember how silly I felt brewing on a 1 bbl system when I started so I can't help but pass on the advice. But like I said, maybe I misunderstand the situation.

Without a doubt I wish you the best of luck. And fwiw it's not negativity, just hard earned experience. But everyone's situation is different. Here's hoping you make the most of yours!

I don't take it as negativity.  No worries there.  I appreciate all comments. 

My intention is just to be able to legally sell some beer.  Having two, (and now possibly a third) bar stock my beer on a rotating basis will be very cool.  I have no plans to even fill sankey kegs, so I will be limited to bars with a ball lock set-up.  And that's fine. Like I said somewhere, I ain't giving up the day job.


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Going Pro / Re: OK, we're doing it
« on: May 17, 2012, 02:51:12 PM »
For questions on self distribution, the answer is in the Brewer's Association web site.  For WA=yes, <60,000 barrels, so you are covered for a few years of growth. 
http://www.brewersassociation.org/pages/government-affairs/self-distribution-laws

I can't imagine going that big.  Homebrewing is for me.  Plus, my day job pays pretty good.  And I like money.   :D ;D

Here's hoping you are going to at least invst in something larger than a 10 gallon system. You will quickly lose the joy of brewing once you sell every drop you are brewing and never have a keg for the house. even brewing 7 bbls I sometimes go stretches without having beer at the house, and that sucks.

In fact, that makes me think of another cautionary tale: beware of going commercial because you will not be brewing for yourself any longer. On a 10 gallon system that's a lot of brewing basically for free (because there is no way you will make money on it, on the contrary your time will not even come close to being compensated. At least homebrewing you spend 8 hours and get beer out of the deal. You will be talking about spending all day brewing and maybe getting $80-100 after ingredient/energy costs.

Couple questions:

Why can't I brew for myself?  I've still got my system at my house, in my garage.  My "commercial" brewery will be 15 miles away at my partners place.  We'll home brew on my system, and commerical on hers.  And 8 hours?  Not even close.  We can get 2, 10 gallon batches done in less than that. 

 

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Equipment and Software / Re: Beersmith recipe Cloud
« on: May 16, 2012, 08:53:34 PM »
I personally can't see spending $14 a year just to store recipes. If you have any kind of high speed internet at home(dial-up excluded) you can log into your computer from remote locations to retrieve your recipes?

For the tech savy, that would work.  For me, it's worth what I make in 20 minutes. Plus, $25 for beersmith is quite a deal.   Let's show Brad some love.  He makes a great product.  Now, if I could only keep my inventory up to date, LOL.  And I give Justin Crossly $24 a year, for what I could get for free.  I take much from the brewing community.  I don't mind giving back.

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