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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Electronic Competition Returns
« on: April 29, 2010, 05:35:05 PM »
Just got done with our annual Mayfaire Competition (in its 32nd-33rd year?) and we've expanded the little pilot program we've been doing for 3 years now.

All of our entry score sheets are online as pdf's, downloadable and printable by the entrant. This allowed us to get all 330ish sets back to the entrants within 24 hours. (The Doug King Competition in January saw all the scoresheets available about 6 hours after the competition closed)

What I'd like to know is what you think. Does the increased speed of return offset the tactile sensation of a piece of paper mailed to you? Is the score sheet as provided clear enough to read and glean the value from? Would it put you off to know your sheets were being returned electronically? Why?

No experience with electronic, but I would have no problem with that.  I entered one comp a few months ago, and it took two weeks to get results.  (and that's what they promised)  At NHC, I had my sheet the Tuesday after the event. 
Check out this sample sheet (http://www.maltosefalcons.com/system/files/private/SampleScoresheet.pdf) from this blog post (http://www.maltosefalcons.com/blogs/drew-beechum/mayfaire-results-new-world-returns)

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Batch Sparge Water
« on: April 29, 2010, 05:32:10 PM »
Cool, thanks!  I need to get my sparge calculation down better and get an accurate volume measurement.  I am tempted to buy a kettle with a sight glass just to be more certain of my volume. 

I'm with on that.  I'll just add one to my keg though.  If you can't accurately measure your water, you can't calculate efficiency.  I "guess" I'm between 60-70%.  But it's a total guess. 

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All Grain Brewing / Re: SS mesh vs false bottom
« on: April 29, 2010, 04:53:52 PM »
I re-read Palmer's book and I believe him.  Even if batch sparging, the liquid will not flow through the corners of your mash tun with a bazooka screen.  It's plain physics.  He explains much better than I.  Whereas a false bottom drains the entire mast bed equally.

But, that's not to say you can't make good beer unless you have a false bottom.  That would be crazy talk.  But I do beleive it's the best option.   

I think you're confusing the physics behind fly sparging and batch sparging.  In fly sparging, it is important to get the sparge water evenly distributed over the grain, since you're rinsing the sugars out.  In batch sparging, though, the stirring dissolves the sugars into the sparge water so it's a draining process and even distribution makes no difference.  That's borne out by the fact that I and most other batch spargers get efficiency at least as good as fly spargers.  Both methods of sparging work fine, but in batch sparging you're not dependent on your lauter design to get good efficiency.

But shouldn't you compare batch sparging with a bazooka vs batch sparging with a false bottom?  I fully agree you can get great efficiency with a bazooka screen and batch sparging.  And I have no doubt depending on other factors, even better than a fly sparger.  But my guess is that even a batch sparger, would get increased effiency by using a false bottom.  Because either way, gravity will pull the wort to the opening.  With a false bottom, the whole bottom of the tun is that opening, and liquid on the top and edge of the grain bed will go straight down.  With a bazooka, it will creep towards the center as it falls.  With the less liquid going through the grain at the far edge at the bottom of the tun.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: SS mesh vs false bottom
« on: April 29, 2010, 01:32:54 PM »
But, I would still recommend to one and all to use a false bottom, regardless of sparging method. 

What advantages do you think a false bottom has?

I re-read Palmer's book and I believe him.  Even if batch sparging, the liquid will not flow through the corners of your mash tun with a bazooka screen.  It's plain physics.  He explains much better than I.  Whereas a false bottom drains the entire mast bed equally.

But, that's not to say you can't make good beer unless you have a false bottom.  That would be crazy talk.  But I do beleive it's the best option.   

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All Grain Brewing / Re: SS mesh vs false bottom
« on: April 29, 2010, 07:28:07 AM »
Why would you say "Even with an Amber I brew with lots of 6-row."  Is 6-row more likely to casue a stuck sparge?

Pepe

I'd think it would be the other way around...I may be mistaken, but I thought 6 row had more husk material, which would help prevent a stuck runoff.

LHBS suggested using rice hulls with 1/2 of grist being 6-row.  I chose not too. 

I don't understand that.  AFAIK, 6 row has more husk material is less prone to sticking than 2 row.  Maybe I'm wrong...

Agreed, I did some research last night, and just as others have already said, 6-row does have more husk material. 

But, I would still recommend to one and all to use a false bottom, regardless of sparging method. 

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All Grain Brewing / Re: SS mesh vs false bottom
« on: April 28, 2010, 03:22:00 PM »
Why would you say "Even with an Amber I brew with lots of 6-row."  Is 6-row more likely to casue a stuck sparge?

Pepe

I'd think it would be the other way around...I may be mistaken, but I thought 6 row had more husk material, which would help prevent a stuck runoff.

LHBS suggested using rice hulls with 1/2 of grist being 6-row.  I chose not too. 

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Any membership promotions coming up?
« on: April 28, 2010, 10:49:14 AM »
Of course you can renew to get the free book! We'll just tack an extra year onto your current membership expiration.   :)

cool. 

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Events / Re: Brew Fest - Fell's Pt.
« on: April 28, 2010, 10:45:09 AM »
Apr. 24, Fell's Pt. (Balto, MD) - Anyone here going? Me and the wife will be there. Hopefully.

I live in Washington State, so it's a bit of a commute.  LOL.  However, I was there on business last year, and found "max's tap room"  OMG.  I could live in that place.  And was lucky enough that a local brew club (not so much home brew) was meeting at the time.  Nice group of guys.  (we never have Samiclause on tap out west)

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Any membership promotions coming up?
« on: April 28, 2010, 10:40:28 AM »
Hey all - thanks for giving me a day to get back to you.

There is an AHA membership offer for Big Brew. We've just started promoting it and it goes until May 21, 2010. Here are the details: http://www.beertown.org/email/aha/april/april.html

By using the promo code in our store, you can get a free copy of Scotch Ale by Greg Noonan, one of the style-series books from Brewers Publications. We also used a Noonan recipe as one of the Big Brew recipes this year. You can find all of those on the Homebrewopedia, http://wiki.homebrewersassociation.org/BigBrew2010

If you have any questions or need a pdf of the Big Brew membership form, just send me an email and let me know.

Cheers!
Kathryn Porter Drapeau
Kathryn@BrewersAssociation.org

I just joined a few months ago, can I still renew now?

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All Grain Brewing / Re: SS mesh vs false bottom
« on: April 28, 2010, 10:35:42 AM »
mic, that's true if you're fly sparging, but it doesn't apply to batch sparging.

I do fly sparge.  I can "see" what you're saying.  Good clarification.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: SS mesh vs false bottom
« on: April 28, 2010, 10:02:10 AM »
I have always used a false bottom in my 10G cylindrical tun but have been advised by a friend that he substituted SS mesh tube with significant improvement..any experiences?

You can brew great beer with any of those devises.  But a false bottom is the best choice for full efficiency of your grains.  The mesh tube sitting down the middle of your tun will have a hard time sparging the grains to the side of it way at the bottom.  Look to Plamer's "How to brew" for some flow diagrams.  I use a foldable false bottom in a 1/2 gallon keg, with the outlest at the very bottom.  I control mash temp through a RIMS systems.  Never once had a stuck sparge.  Even with an Amber I brew with lots of 6-row. 

But, like I said.  You can make great beers with any of the systems. 

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Pliny the Elder Clone Recipe
« on: April 23, 2010, 12:20:19 PM »
what's up y'all-

I'm super stoked, as i just ordered from Austin Homebrew Supply a clone of this most stupendous, splendiferous (sp?) DIPA.

My question is whether anyone has any feedback about this clone recipe, and whether it's possible, short of selling one's soul, to come close to replicating this beer?

thanks!

-DAZE

Pliney now uses hop extract in their recipe. 

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: A stopped, starter.
« on: April 21, 2010, 11:04:35 AM »
thanks.

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Yeast and Fermentation / A stopped, starter.
« on: April 21, 2010, 10:55:02 AM »
So, I got a starter going.  on a stir plate, 2000ml flask, as I step up for 10 gallon batch.  After step-up, life happened, and couldn't brew.  I have just stuck in my fridge, and it's all settled down. 

I plan to use it to brew this weekend, I'll create more starter wort, decant it off, let it get to room temp, and add the new starter wort.

Anyone see a problem with this?

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Light Munich Malt
« on: April 21, 2010, 10:02:28 AM »
thanks everyone!  this forum is great. 

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