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How long does it usually take for the presentations to get uploaded on the AHAconference.org site? I'm really interested in that Neva Parker presentation.

Kate had hoped to have them up this week.  Since that didn't happen, I'd guess they'll be there soon.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 5.2 PH Mash Stabilizer??
« on: July 20, 2012, 11:53:01 AM »
Not only did it not control pH for me, it gave my beer a weird(er) taste.  Is that Bob you're talking about, Jim?  You should know better than to listen to him.

Of course, it was Bob!  Ha!  I know he's a salesman first.  I'd just never heard of a "one size fits all" mash treatment.  Give me some credit, man. ;)

I do....I really doubted that you took him seriously.  If you wanna try the stuff, I have most of a container that I'll never use that you can have....

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Beer Recipes / Re: Recipe help please
« on: July 20, 2012, 11:00:11 AM »
I'm gearing up to brew sometime next week.  I think I'll use some Summit to verify my impressions.  Maybe even do Griffin Spit.

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Beer Recipes / Re: Recipe help please
« on: July 20, 2012, 10:28:27 AM »
Just as a matter of interest, what comm'l beers are readily available that use Summit hops? I'd like to try a couple.

The one I always think of is Green Flash IPA.  I've definitely gotten onion/garlic notes from that, as well as the tangerine.

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It sounds like underpitching-for-more-esters is one of those "zombie" ideas. No matter how many times people kill it, it just keeps coming back.

If you believe any number of brewing scientists, you are absolutely correct.

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Beer Recipes / Re: Recipe help please
« on: July 20, 2012, 09:51:42 AM »
Maybe he put his feet in it....

I've heard rumors that the character is crop dependent.  That certainly doesn't do us much good since you have to know if you're buying from a good crop.

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Beer Recipes / Re: Recipe help please
« on: July 20, 2012, 09:00:01 AM »
Ya know, I keep hearing about how bad Summit hops are and the onion/garlic thing, and I've even tasted it in some beers.  But I get a great tangerine flavor and aroma from them.  Maybe I got a good batch.....

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: 5.2 PH Mash Stabilizer??
« on: July 20, 2012, 08:57:23 AM »
Not only did it not control pH for me, it gave my beer a weird(er) taste.  Is that Bob you're talking about, Jim?  You should know better than to listen to him.

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I can tell you that has been verified a number of times.  Neva Parker mentioned it in her AHA seminar last June.  It came up in a question I asked to Dr. Clayton of Lallemand many years ago in HBD's "Fortnight of Yeast". (http://www.danstaryeast.com/articles/yeast-growth).  The basic mechanism is that the same enzyme, acetyl co-A, is responsible for both yeast growth and ester production.  If it's doing one, it can't do the other.  So, if you pitch the right amount of yeast, you get cell growth but reduced ester production.  If you pitch too much yeast, the enzyme produces esters because it doesn't need to work on cell growth.

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Beer Recipes / Re: Recipe help please
« on: July 19, 2012, 01:54:51 PM »
FWIW, I love Summit hops!

Bitter and/or aroma?

Both.  One of my all time favorite recipes is a past Big Brew recipe called "Griffin Spit" (it's in the wiki).  Uses all Summit hops, all at 20 min. or less.  Wonderful tangerine aroma/flavor.

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Beer Recipes / Re: Recipe help please
« on: July 19, 2012, 11:10:10 AM »
FWIW, I love Summit hops!

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Simplifying Recipes
« on: July 19, 2012, 08:17:03 AM »
I like what your saying about simplicity, but then I think of curry.

I agree.  Simple recipes are the best...except when they're not!  Use as many ingredients as you need to achieve what you have in mind, BUT be sure you have something in mind and you know how every ingredient will affect the end result.  Sometimes it will only take a couple ingredients to get you there, sometimes it might take a dozen.

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Zymurgy / Re: eZymurgy for past issues?
« on: July 19, 2012, 08:12:45 AM »
Do you realize that there's a separate log in for the forum and the website?

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Going Pro / Re: OK, we DID it!
« on: July 19, 2012, 08:10:27 AM »
Way to go!

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Do y'all think the 'leave it in the primary' logic also applies to lagers? 

I typically keep things in the primary from 3 to 7 days, however with my last pilsner I left it in the primary for slightly over two weeks (~60 degrees).  I've got a bread-like taste that hits right in the middle of the palate.  Not real strong, but enough of an off-flavor to where I'm not handing it out.

AFAIK, it's from where the live yeasts start feeding on the yeast cake of the fermenter.  I've not had this problem with other yeasts.

Cheers.

I've left lagers on the primary yeast for over a month with no problems.  Autolysis doesn't typically produce bready flavors, so given that and the short amount of time, I doubt it's autolysis.  Maybe from fermenting your lager too warm.

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