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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: To clone or not to clone
« on: November 30, 2013, 06:01:20 PM »
I cloned Schlitz and it came awe fully close.

Damn right!

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: To clone or not to clone
« on: November 29, 2013, 08:17:31 PM »
I stopped using the word "clone" a long time ago because IMO you can never truly clone a beer, whether it's commercial or homebrew.  I started saying "homage" or "inspired by".  But I don't discount the benefit of trying to brew a beer like something else you like.  There's a lot of value in both the recipe design and the brewing process that can teach you a lot, whether you get close or not.  And you'll still likely end up with a delicious beer that's in the ballpark of what you're going for.  I'm looking forward to my Celebration "homage", even if I don't hit the exact gravities or hop profile of the original.  I know it'll still be great.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Single malt and high mash temp
« on: November 29, 2013, 06:10:04 PM »
At NHC in Orlando years back,  I was served no fewer than 10 versions of my Rye IPA made by different people.  Quite a few of them had gone to great lengths to make it as close to mine as they possibly could.  Not one of them tasted like mine.  The point is that brewing someone else's recipe and expecting it to be just like their beer may be an unreasonable expectation.

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The Pub / Re: India Pale Lagers
« on: November 29, 2013, 05:39:46 PM »
Point as a commercial brewer is that I only have one yeast strain.
So more beer styles I can make with my lager yeast...

Sure, but that's different.  And maybe one of the reasons it's better to be a homebrewer!  ;)
I am not so sure about lager yeast vs ale yeast argument.
I am more in opinion that the same yeast under different temperature create different flavors.
I can make quite nice "ale" with "lager" yeast at 70F.

Agreed.  And what I'm saying is that I don't see the point for using a lager yeast (unless like you it's all you've got) when you can get lagerlike qualities from an ale yeast.

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Ask the Experts / Re: Ask the Experts: Gordon Strong
« on: November 29, 2013, 05:38:10 PM »
The window is now open to ask Gordon Strong questions!
Good evening Gordon,
     Is there a preference with brewers that you know, in regard to adjusting brewing water ph vs monitoring mash ph and directly adjusting the mash. Thanks for your time.

Snook, the Q&A period is officially closed now.  But maybe Gordon will pop in and see you question.

Although, I can tell you he'll say mash pH is the key.

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The Pub / Re: India Pale Lagers
« on: November 28, 2013, 10:10:31 PM »
Point as a commercial brewer is that I only have one yeast strain.
So more beer styles I can make with my lager yeast...

Sure, but that's different.  And maybe one of the reasons it's better to be a homebrewer!  ;)

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Single malt and high mash temp
« on: November 28, 2013, 08:55:32 PM »
  Sorry Denny, i'm sure its good info. i just can't make it work on my system, i'm sure its just a difference in process and a 200 bbl system has to behave differently than a 10 gallon. Then being that big of a system maybe they don't measure out grain real exact (so many bags of this, so many bags of that) and instead of 10% its 6.5%, would make a big difference at 5 gallon system. But thanks for the info still.
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I doubt a brewer as big and high quality as SN would allow measurements that are that far off.  I know that when we brewed on the pilot system everything was carefully weighed.

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The Pub / Re: India Pale Lagers
« on: November 28, 2013, 06:40:10 PM »
If your enjoyment is the journey from point a to point be, I can see enjoying the challenge of making an IPA with lager yeast. If the idea is to get to point b the most efficient way.... then it doesn't make sense.

What if there is no point b and the journey is from point a to point a...pointless?  ;)

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The Pub / Re: India Pale Lagers
« on: November 28, 2013, 05:50:36 PM »
Because we're homebrewers guys. We like variety and being creative, remember?
What's the point of homebrewing if well-made commercial beer will do?

I think you're missing the point when you bring up commercial beer.  Why should I bother making an IPL when an IPA that I make can have the same properties?  Creativity should have a point, shouldn't it?

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Single malt and high mash temp
« on: November 28, 2013, 05:48:50 PM »
that what denny and everyone else says on the base malt. And I'm not calling them liars, but I get a very pronounced toasty flavor that I can't get with 2l 2 row and English crystal.

Dunno what to tell you.  I can guarantee you that the info Jeff and I have passed along is straight form the horse's mouth.  They're very straightforward with their brewing...no tricks.

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Ingredients / Re: Sierra Nevada's water profile
« on: November 28, 2013, 05:43:37 PM »
I believe Martin has done some work there so he might have some insights.  IIRC, they take the local Chico water, strip it down to almost nothing, and rebuild it.  Does that sound right, Jeff?

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The Pub / Re: Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
« on: November 28, 2013, 05:40:24 PM »
I'm thankful to be retired instead of working today!  Have a great day, everyone!

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The Pub / Re: India Pale Lagers
« on: November 27, 2013, 07:24:41 PM »
The IPLs I've had were so close to well made IPAs that I have wo wonder what the point if an IPL is.  Because you can?

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Single malt and high mash temp
« on: November 27, 2013, 07:23:51 PM »
Also before I did mashouts my fg would come in lower than the calculators.

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