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Beer Recipes / Re: Drunkey Monkey
« on: March 28, 2013, 12:15:42 PM »
thank you denny.  i chose this yeast because it gives off heavy banana esters, i read.  should i now refer to the beer as a weizen, simply because of the yeast choice?  i'm still very new to this so i appreciate the help/knowledge.

also - is there a "wheat" yeast that gives off heavy banana esters?

Technically, a weizen yeast IS a wheat yeast.  The abominations that American brewers call wheat beers (calm down, that's just my opinion) have nothing to do with their German origins and use a neutral yeast that adds no flavor to the beer.  For info about styles, take a look at .

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Stuck Fermentation
« on: March 28, 2013, 11:27:51 AM »
A 2 cup yeast starter!  While that may not be the cause of your problem, 2 cup starter is probably worse than worthless.  Neve/Neva Parker of Wyeast (possibly White Labs) said at the 2012 NHC that 1 liter starters basically don't do anything (you trade off a little more yeast for yeast with less vitality).   I suspect that a 2-cup starter actually decreases the amount of viable yeast from a pitchable smack pack and reduces the vitality of the surviving yeast.

Neva/White Labs

And yep, I agree that a 2 cup starter is no better (likely worse) than no starter at all.

Beer Recipes / Re: Drunkey Monkey
« on: March 28, 2013, 11:23:25 AM »
first tschmidlin - i want to say thanks again for taking the time to help me.

our discrepancy may be this: i have "american wheat or rye beer" as the style.  you have "weizen", correct?  my guess is that i'm off on this - i was going for a banana wheat, but does my recipe reflect that of a weizen instead?

The yeast you have listed pretty much defines it as a weizen.  For an American wheat you'd use s neutral yeast like 1056.

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: My first yeast starter
« on: March 27, 2013, 12:38:05 PM »
You can smack it if you want to, but you don't have to.  Take a look at,, or to find a starter recipe that takes into account the age of the yeast.

All Grain Brewing / Re: Help in identifying off flavor
« on: March 27, 2013, 11:58:39 AM »
Yeast was Danstar Nottingham.

That's my guess.  I always get a disagreeable sour tartness from Nottingham.

All Grain Brewing / Re: Water Connundrum
« on: March 26, 2013, 02:15:08 PM »
It's hard to believe that the water is really filtered.  It must be really terrible before it is.

Carbon filtration does not remove minerals although it can remove mercury.

I stand corrected!  Thanks.

All Grain Brewing / Re: Water Connundrum
« on: March 26, 2013, 12:50:55 PM »
It's hard to believe that the water is really filtered.  It must be really terrible before it is.

Beer Recipes / Re: Doppelbock recipes
« on: March 26, 2013, 11:38:01 AM »
This is what I ended up doing.  Very pleased with the results...

#434 Doppelbock

A ProMash Recipe Report

Recipe Specifics

Batch Size (Gal):         5.50    Wort Size (Gal):    5.50
Total Grain (Lbs):       18.25
Anticipated OG:          1.084    Plato:             20.27
Anticipated SRM:          20.4
Anticipated IBU:          24.6
Brewhouse Efficiency:       73 %
Wort Boil Time:             90    Minutes

Pre-Boil Amounts

Evaporation Rate:       1.50    Gallons Per Hour
Pre-Boil Wort Size:    7.75    Gal
Pre-Boil Gravity:      1.060    SG          14.68  Plato


   %     Amount     Name                          Origin        Potential SRM
 19.2     3.50 lbs. Pilsener                      Germany        1.038      2
 71.2    13.00 lbs. Munich Malt                   Germany        1.037      8
  9.6     1.75 lbs. CaraMunich 80                 France         1.034     80

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


   Amount     Name                              Form    Alpha  IBU  Boil Time
  1.50 oz.    Hallertauer Mittelfruh            Pellet   4.60  20.9  60 min.
  0.35 oz.    Hallertauer Mittelfruh            Pellet   4.60   3.7  30 min.
  0.15 oz.    Hallertauer Mittelfruh            Pellet   4.60   0.0  0 min.


WYeast 2206 Bavarian Lager

Mash Schedule

Mash Name:

Total Grain Lbs:   18.25
Total Water Qts:   28.00 - Before Additional Infusions
Total Water Gal:    7.00 - Before Additional Infusions

Tun Thermal Mass:   0.13
Grain Temp:        65.00 F

                     Step   Rest   Start   Stop  Heat     Infuse   Infuse  Infuse
Step Name            Time   Time   Temp    Temp  Type     Temp     Amount  Ratio
sacc                   0     60    155     155   Infuse   170       28.00   1.53

Total Water Qts:           28.00 - After Additional Infusions
Total Water Gal:            7.00 - After Additional Infusions
Total Mash Volume Gal:      8.46 - After Additional Infusions

All temperature measurements are degrees Fahrenheit.
All infusion amounts are in Quarts.
All infusion ratios are Quarts/Lbs.

The Pub / The right tool for the job
« on: March 26, 2013, 11:01:39 AM »

All Grain Brewing / Re: Water Connundrum
« on: March 26, 2013, 10:27:31 AM »
its not pretty bad, its really bad.  I honestly would just stick with RO water and build from there.

Yep.  IMO, that water is not suitable for brewing.

Sounds to me like you're using way too much water and yes, you can over sparge even with batch sparging.  And don't let Beersmith do your thinking for you.  It's a tool to help you brew the way you want to, not instructions on how to brew.  I think you need to take a step backward and simplify.  Mash with 1.5 qt. lb.  Measure how much get from the mash runoff and subtract that from the amount you want to boil (which I'd guess is about 7.5 gal.).  The answer you get is how much sparge water to use.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: AHA GC Election
« on: March 25, 2013, 10:58:24 AM »
I did the reset so I can't see how I'm using the wrong log in.
Looks like I'm the only one so I must be doing something wrong.

Try contacting

The Pub / The Wheel of Time
« on: March 25, 2013, 09:05:11 AM »
Here is a great resource for Denny and anyone else who might get lost in that plot:
It gives a brief synopsis of every chapter, and links for every name, place and plot twist, so you can figure it out.

Cool!  Thanks!

General Homebrew Discussion / Favorite beer you've ever brewed?
« on: March 25, 2013, 09:01:27 AM »

It's boring and obvious, but it would have to be my Rye IPA.

It's a good one for sure. Only brewed it once. Loved it. How long did it take you to refine it to where you wanted it?

12-15 batches to hone the recipe and make sure it was repeatable.

General Homebrew Discussion / No brained brewing rules
« on: March 25, 2013, 08:59:59 AM »
Brew like the wind

Break like the wind.....

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