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Hop Growing / Re: Hop trellis options and a few other questions
« on: March 06, 2013, 11:43:49 AM »
An aside:  could we get a 'hop growing' section in the AHA Forum?

Much thanks.
+1

We'll talk about it, but I'm not in favor of it personally.  We've pruned off several sections in the past just to keep things easier to manage.  What about a sticky topic?

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Hop Growing / Re: Hop trellis options and a few other questions
« on: March 06, 2013, 11:42:32 AM »
I would warn you to not be too ambitious about planting a lot of hops, at least at first.  They take a few years to take off.  The first year you'll get very little, but the yield will increase after that.  I have a single Cascade plant that's a little over 10 years old and it's not unusual for me to get over 20 lb. of wet fresh hops from that single plant.  That makes picking, drying and packaging them a PITA.  I do live in the middle of prime hop growing territory in the PNW, so maybe I get more growth than a lot of other people do, but when I'm out there picking hops every summer I'm damn glad that I only have the one plant.
fixed it

;)

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All Things Food / Re: I discovered
« on: March 06, 2013, 11:41:18 AM »
Recipe, please? 

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Equipment and Software / Re: hop rhizomes newbie
« on: March 06, 2013, 10:02:47 AM »
so you get ~4 lbs per plant dry, looks like the industry standard (whatever that is) is about 2.8 tons per hectare which very roughly works out to about 10 lbs per plant.

Yeah, that's about average.  It's been as high as 7 lb. from the one plant after drying.  Even I can't use 4-7 lb. of Cascades in a year.  And around here, trying to give away Cascade hops is like trying to give away zucchini in August!

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Back in the saddle
« on: March 06, 2013, 09:59:11 AM »
Theyve been heckling me that i bought a red one.... GET THE BLUE!

red= -27% efficiency - malt you've already purchased begins to disappear on its own

blue= 134% efficiency - after 10 brews, a bag of malt magically appears in your garage

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Homebrew Clubs / Re: Homebrew Club Running a Nano-Brewery
« on: March 06, 2013, 09:54:22 AM »
In our case, Rogue bought a 30 gal. MoreBeer sculpture (top of the line) and put it in the basement of their local brewpub.  They also bout a temp controlled conical for the system.  Our people would go in and brew using ingredients supplied by Rogue.  Generally, they were pretty good about getting ingredients that were needed, but sometimes we just had to wing it.  The finished beer was owned and sold by Rogue.  Even the club member who brewed it had to purchase it...no free beer for the club.  They were supposed to have a tap handle available for us all the time, but often their own beer would fill that while ours sat until there was space.  They did no identification kf the beer as being brewed by the club.  Basically, we were just providing free labor.  We recently decided to end our brewing on the system because we just couldn't identify the value to the club.

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I could get up off my rear, get the pH meter out and try it, but that is some work that I can avoid.  :)

Jeff, it's my great pleasure to award you the Gold Star for Pragmatism!




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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Whole leaf hops
« on: March 06, 2013, 09:43:45 AM »
Hop bags are ok, but you can lose some bitterness.

So I increase the hop amount by 10% to compensate.

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Hop Growing / Re: Hop trellis options and a few other questions
« on: March 06, 2013, 09:40:49 AM »
I would warn you to not be too ambitious about planting a lot of hops, at least at first.  They take a few years to take off.  The first year you'll get very little, but the yield will increase after that.  I have a single Cascade plant that's a little over 10 years old and it's not unusual for me to get over 20 lb. of wet hops from that single plant.  That makes picking, drying and packaging them a PITA.  I do live in the middle of prime hop growing territory in the PNW, so maybe I get more growth than a lot of other people do, but when I'm out there picking hops every summer I'm damn glad that I only have the one plant.

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Cool!

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Congrats to all in MS who worked so hard on this and to Gary and the AHA staff fo their efforts.

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Equipment and Software / Re: hop rhizomes newbie
« on: March 05, 2013, 03:11:32 PM »
The bines are trainable and much prefer to go vertical. If you train them horizontal you will get less harvest but generally you get a lot anyway so it may be fine.

My Cascade plant goes about 6' up a deer fence, than horizontal across the top.  The plant is maybe 10-11 years old now.  My harvest averages about 20 lb. before drying from a single plant.

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Beer Recipes / Re: Low gravity saison
« on: March 05, 2013, 12:38:55 PM »
If you are adding the lactic for twang and not for pH adjustment why not just add it to the kettle? then you don't have to mess around with adding lime or soda and acid.

Good point. I don't know why I didn't think of that. I always pick up good ideas around here.

You could even add it post fermentation so you can taste to get just the right amount, rather than guessing when you put it in the kettle.

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Events / Re: NHC 2013 Entry Problems - Possible Solutions?
« on: March 05, 2013, 10:43:19 AM »
That means that if you limit judges to three flights of 12 beers, you still only need 77 judges for the second round.

Wouldn't that be 231 judges, since you need 3 per flight?

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Nothing this weekend.  I've got a Rye IPA and a doppelbock fermenting now.  This Thur. I'll start some yeast for a dubbel or tripel I'll brew next week.

you are definitely a high octane brewer!

It's funny that I have all these relatively big beers going or planned.  I've been trending toward lower ABV the last couple years due to health problems.  But I'm feeling pretty good these days and for some reason all these just sounded good.  The real up side is that I drink big beers a lot more sparingly than I used to, so they last a long time.  I just kicked a keg of a Rochefort 10 clone that had been around for 6 months.

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