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All Grain Brewing / Re: Humdinger Attenuation Issue
« on: December 17, 2011, 02:43:16 PM »
But if you're batch sparging, you get to a boil within a few minutes.  It's not like fly sparging where you're waiting n hour or so before the boil.

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Beer Recipes / Re: Recipe Ideas?
« on: December 17, 2011, 02:41:29 PM »
I like the idea of a Belgian blonde. I have had them but never made one.
A common sounds good but the temp control fridge is tide up.

Have any good recipes for a blonde?

I do what's called Patersbier.....pils malt to a 1.050 OG, about 25 IBU of Hallertauer for bittering, .5 oz. Saaz at 10 min. for finishing.  Ferment in the mow-mid 60s with WY3787.

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All Grain Brewing / Re: Iodine test for mash conversion
« on: December 17, 2011, 02:39:19 PM »
Either one of those will work.  IMO, the test is unnecessary and unreliable.  If you mash in the range from 145-160 for 60 min. or more, you will have conversion.  If the problem is that the temp was too high, the iodine test won't matter anyway.

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Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Cold crashing a Schwartz
« on: December 17, 2011, 10:17:55 AM »
Took a sample to the master brewer at a Gordon Biersch and he said it was diacetyl. It was cold when we first tasted it and you couldnt really taste it. But when we slightly warmed some and cooled to room temp you could really taste/smell it. It's not as bad as i first thought. I am going to bring the beer up to 50* andtry kreusening with some active yeast for a week and see if it will drop the diacetal. I'll let you know what happens.

I've done that a couple times and it's worked well.  Good luck to ya!

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The Pub / Re: Last Week
« on: December 16, 2011, 09:57:27 AM »
A great Christmas present, man!

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Things Picking Up in the Carolinas
« on: December 15, 2011, 03:52:56 PM »
I foresee a reduction in quality, if this happens.

Why?  One thing I learned at beer Camp is that quality is what they value above everything.  Add in the fact that it's a sole proprietorship, without board or stockholders to satisfy, and it would seem that they have the best possible situation to maintain a quality product.

I was just assuming that they were incorporated. Is the company owned by a single person?

AFAIK, Ken Grossman is the single owner.  They kept stressing to us that the reason he could go out and buy a composter with a 20 year payback, for instance, was because he didn't have to answer to a board or stockholders.

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Sounds like sh*t, Denny.

It's show biz....when everyone else is celebrating and partying, we're the people providing the entertainment for them.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Things Picking Up in the Carolinas
« on: December 15, 2011, 11:40:41 AM »


One of the things they stressed to us was that the places they were looking at had similar water chemistry.

Nah, when I was talking with Steve Dresler a few months ago, he mentioned that they are fully on RO at the Chico facility.  They build all their brewing water up from RO.  I suggested that they do want to try and find a location with decent water anyhow to reduce the loading on the RO membranes.  He was not concerned with that.  They are looking for the local that will give them the best deal. 

PS: the firm I work for does SN's wastewater and energy reduction engineering.


Thanks, Martin.  I was aware of that, but they also mentioned to us that they were looking for similar water.  Could be that the person who told us that was misinformed, or maybe just a matter of interpretation.  But you provided valuable info here!

And having seen their wasterwater and energy reduction efforts, let me say GOOD JOB to you and your company!

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Things Picking Up in the Carolinas
« on: December 15, 2011, 11:29:02 AM »
Shareholders. They want to see a company grow.

But SN has no shareholders (or just the family as Mike points out).  As to why they want to grow, why not?  Increased wealth aside, they might have motives like serving more customers better, or being able to provide more benefits to more employees.  I'm just speculating, but that's the kind of company they seem to be.

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Working...again.  12-16 hours every day but Christmas til the first of the year.  I have 3 batches in fermenters and I'm hoping I can find the time to at least deal with them.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Things Picking Up in the Carolinas
« on: December 15, 2011, 10:26:34 AM »
I foresee a reduction in quality, if this happens.

Why?  One thing I learned at beer Camp is that quality is what they value above everything.  Add in the fact that it's a sole proprietorship, without board or stockholders to satisfy, and it would seem that they have the best possible situation to maintain a quality product.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Things Picking Up in the Carolinas
« on: December 15, 2011, 10:24:22 AM »
The big boys consistently brew the same lackluster beer all over the country. Which is quite the challenge as I'm led to understand. I'm sure SN can do better. But wondering as to the how. Grain source. Hops brought in. Water challenges.

Demand all taken care of.

One of the things they stressed to us was that the places they were looking at had similar water chemistry.

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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Things Picking Up in the Carolinas
« on: December 15, 2011, 10:19:46 AM »
I guess it depends on how far it goes.  I just worry when breweries become macro in size that their products will be macro in quality.  It signifies a shift in how the business is operated, and it might not be for the better.  It might be awesome, but it already IS awesome, so in this case I fear change.

They talked quite a bit about this when I was at Beer Camp a month back.  There's no way they aren't going to grow, so you might as well get over that fear, Tom!  Thia is the most logical way for them to accomplish that.  It's lees expensive and more eco-friendly (in keeping with their philosophy) than shipping beer across the country.  Let's face it, SN is a business and as such wants/needs to keep growing.  Based on what I've learned about the company and their mindset, I'm much less worried about expansion from them than a company like, say, Ninkasi.

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