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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Competition letdown
« on: May 19, 2011, 08:13:08 AM »
Keep in mind that BJCP comps don't judge "what's the best beer" they judge what is the best example to style.

But they also judge on flaws in the beer that can come from process.  That's the part I find valuable.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Competition letdown
« on: May 19, 2011, 08:11:35 AM »
How can you say they teach you something when thread after thread people complain about questionable judging conditions, lack of feedback and beers that place in one comp and score bad in another? That's why I got out of them. I felt I was chasing around trying to solve problems that never existed.  My friends told me it was good and when I drank commercial craft beer, in many cases I preferred mine to theirs.

It's kind of like when you are constantly hitting yourself in the head with a hammer. It sure feels good when you stop.

Like most things in life, you only hear about the bad.  If there were nothing but the problems you describe, then comps would have died out a long time ago.  In fact, participation in comps is on the increase.  If you're satisfied with your beer, fine.  I like to get other opinions to see what I can do to improve.  I don't always agree with those opinions, but I find that it's valuable to me to at least consider what they say.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: A Call to Action - Speed Brewing
« on: May 19, 2011, 08:03:18 AM »
I guess since my name has been invoked twice that I should try to clarify what I was saying....sure, it's entirely possible to make a beer fast.  What I was trying to get at is that sometimes the beer needs more time, no matter what you do to make it go fast, and you need to pay attention to what the beer's telling you.  If the beer says "I'm done, drink me!", cool.  But if the beer is saying "hold on, bub, I need more time" and you go ahead and drink it anyway you may be doing yourself a disservice.  Believe me, I've been on both sides of that fence.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Competition letdown
« on: May 18, 2011, 03:26:02 PM »
I've had it with competitions.  I like my beer and my friends like it too, that's all that matters.

You've already solved your problem.

Unless by entering comps you can learn something that will make your beer even better.  I certainly have.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Competition letdown
« on: May 18, 2011, 03:09:59 PM »
It's just the opinion of those people at that time on that day.  If that's your first comp, keep entering.  You'll be able to average out the opinions.  And sit down with the beers that were judged and drink one while you read through the scoresheets.  As often as not, I find a judge will pick up something I totally overlooked and find myself grateful for pointing it out.

The Pub / Re: How annoying are you?
« on: May 18, 2011, 02:16:13 PM »
I scored very low on the picky and arrogant scales but higher on the irritating scale (no surprise there).

Same here.

Beer Recipes / Re: Help with Kolsch mash schedule
« on: May 18, 2011, 02:09:55 PM »
I'm not SCA, but my typical step mash schedule is 30 at 145 and 30 at 158.

Beer Recipes / Re: Golden Monkey
« on: May 18, 2011, 02:05:08 PM »
That would be cool.


Not a problem.  It was a long time ago, so it may take a while to find my notebook with the recipe.

ETA:  OK, found a recipe online that looks like mine...

Denny's Golden Monkey Homage

12.5 lb. pils malt
0.5 lb. flaked barley
6 oz. Belgian aromatic malt
4 oz. Belgian biscuit malt
1.5 lb. cane or beet sugar
0.7 oz. Horizon 13% 60 min.
0.3 oz. French Strisselspalt pellets 4% 10 min.
0.5 oz. freshly ground coriander 5 min.
Wyeast #3522 Ardennes yeast

Mash at 150F
OG ~ 1.080

I don't know what the OG of GM really is, but I'd bet mine is too high.  All I can really recall is that I was surprised at how much this tasted like GM, but as you notice I call it an "homage" and not a clone.

Ingredients / Re: First Wort Hopping
« on: May 18, 2011, 02:04:20 PM »
That's what's known as "mash hopping" and the effects are supposedly much different than those of FWH.  I don't remember the exact differences but they must not be much of an advantage as mash hopping is not terribly popular.

I tried mash hopping 3 times with recipes I'd brewed a lot and knew well.  AFAIAC, the mash hops did nothing at all.

I believe Rogue's 60 IBU's is measured after the brew.  Tinseth and Rager are projected estimates.

I'm not certain it's measured at all.  I know John uses Promash to do recipes.  But he may send it Analysis Lab for measurements. 

Beer Recipes / Re: Golden Monkey
« on: May 18, 2011, 12:38:45 PM »
Man, it's been years since I brewed that recipe.  I'll have to try to find it in my notes and see if I have any comments.

Beer Recipes / Re: Help with Kolsch mash schedule
« on: May 18, 2011, 12:07:43 PM »
If you mash in a cooler, I think it's a given that you won't be able to accurately calculate infusion.  Coolers are made to resist temp changes.  If I want to step mash, I just stir in boiling water until I hit my temp.

All Grain Brewing / Re: Electric stove-top: how far can you go?
« on: May 18, 2011, 12:05:54 PM »
Your efficiency will be less like that, but it seems like a fair trade off.  When I started AG I only had a 7gal. post so I was limited to 4 gal. boils.  My efficiency was in the low 60s, but I made some great beer.

Our local Rogue has started a program for our club to brew there and have a tap handle.  If we can come up with Mt. Hood hops, I'll be brewing Rye IPA there this Sat.

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