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The Pub / Re: What are you Thankful at the end of this year?
« on: December 15, 2010, 10:46:03 PM »
Good topic, Marc!  Like you, I'd list Jeff's recovery and Keith's success, as well as this forum and all the people on it.  I'm tankful for my grandkids, even though I don't get to see them or their parents as often as I'd like.  I'm thankful that most days life doesn't kick my butt too hard.  I'm thankful for my dogs and cats, whose unconditional love always makes me feel better at the end of a tough day.  Most of all, I'm thankful for my wonderful wife of nearly 32 years for putting up with me when I do the weirdest s*** and loving me through all of it.

All Grain Brewing / Re: Mashing confusion
« on: December 15, 2010, 10:13:44 PM »
I see you did a triple decoction.  All the beers in my experiment were single.  I think that if decoction does make a difference, it's gonna show up in a triple decoction.

Equipment and Software / Re: dead mouse in my carboy
« on: December 15, 2010, 08:17:08 PM »
I guess the real question is: do late mouse additions contribute more to the aroma?

Dry mousing is where it's at.

All Things Food / Re: Bread/Yeast question.
« on: December 15, 2010, 08:15:39 PM »
Wow, 4 tsp/loaf is a metric buttload!  (That's a technical baking phrase).  I use a TBSP. for about 3 lb. of flour (4 baguettes).

All Grain Brewing / Re: Mashing confusion
« on: December 15, 2010, 08:14:17 PM »
At least not until you figure out how to negate the laws of physics!

Equipment and Software / Re: Soda Stream to carbonate beer???
« on: December 15, 2010, 06:36:34 PM »
I do it in a PET bottle with a carbonator cap.

The Pub / Re: A Christmas Story
« on: December 15, 2010, 06:34:43 PM »
Barry, if I don't have to apologize for posting it, you don't have to apologize either!

All Grain Brewing / Re: Mashing confusion
« on: December 15, 2010, 02:46:32 PM »
An Oktoberfest without a decoction is just another mediocre beer.

Maybe, maybe not...I'd have to test that to say for certain.

All Grain Brewing / Re: Mashing confusion
« on: December 15, 2010, 02:46:09 PM »
That's hilarious!

But I have trouble reconciling it with Tim's decoction experiments, because he did a batch that had identical ingredients as the decocted batch and it was noticeably different.

However, in the decoction experiment I did, many of the beers with identical ingredients were found to have no noticeable differences and a significant number of tasters misidentified which was which.


The Pub / Re: A Christmas Story
« on: December 15, 2010, 02:01:53 PM »
+ a billionty and eleven!

All Grain Brewing / Re: Mashing confusion
« on: December 15, 2010, 02:01:17 PM »

I have talked to German brew masters who said that decoction has little impact on taste.

when I was doing research after my decoction experiment, I heard from beer writer Lew Bryson.  He had been to Weinstephan (I probably butchered that!) and a brewing professor there said that they had a tasting panel try decocted and non decocted version of their weizen.  Most of the tasters found no difference.  The professor claimed that there was probably something wrong with the panel!

Ingredients / Re: Palmer Spreadsheet Error
« on: December 15, 2010, 01:57:21 PM »
What would be the purpose of bypassing salt additions to the mash and putting the salts in the boil?
What does it accomplish?
Some ions only really affect mouthfeel and other flavor perceptions.  If you want to know exactly how much of them you're adding to the beer, they should go in the kettle.  Otherwise some could be lost in the mash.

I often add gypsum to the kettle and not the mash.  With my water, the pH for AIPA/APA arrives at the correct value without any mash additions.  I want to add gypsum to accentuate the hops, but if I added it to the mash it would drop the pH too low.  Adding it to the kettle avoids that.

All Grain Brewing / Re: Mashing confusion
« on: December 15, 2010, 01:30:55 PM »
2. [personally I'm not for or against decoction]  It's very possible even with my answer to the first question; I can see this particular brewer subconsciously putting extra effort into his decoction batch.  Another possibility is that my palate picks up on decocted beer while missing character(s) that your (or anyone else) palate detects.  

This is a subject that I'm still toying with and haven't reached any concrete personal conclusions.

Just to be clear, I'm not against decoction, either.  I'm against expending effort that doesn't have a payoff!  Anyway, did you do a blind tasting?  was it a triangle tasting?  I've come to the conclusion that that's really the only way to get somewhat objective results.

The Pub / Re: A Christmas Story
« on: December 15, 2010, 01:28:01 PM »
In conclusion - If Santa ever DID deliver presents on Christmas Eve, he's dead now.

Thanks for ruining my Christmas, Mr. Grinch!   :'(


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