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Equipment and Software / Re: Stir Plates
« on: June 30, 2015, 05:35:50 PM »

Whether or not stir plates provide any appreciable level of aeration (either before or during active fermentation in the starter) is a topic I have seen debated almost endlessly.  Are you aware of any studies on this issue?  I'd love to get a definitive answer; all I've ever seen is conjecture.

It doesn't seem like it would be a difficult experiment for someone with the proper equipment.

I found this and posted it on the forum quite some time ago.  There's probably more information out there somewhere.

Hello!  Welcome to the best homebrewing forum out there!  Just don't do a maple bacon Porter like I did unless you like salty beer.  BTW, nice Bully Smokestack tulip glass.


Take a look at

Also, preheat as stated and use a strike temperature calculator.  Verify the temperature after mashing in as every mash tun is a little different and because the temperature can vary due to changes in ambient temperature.

Measure how much dead space you have at the bottom of your mash tun and factor that into your process.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 26, 2015, 03:43:24 PM »
"Spirit of the Law," in my mind means we BNers are intentionally trying to take advantage of the rules.  That's what the 1500# goalie example would be.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 26, 2015, 10:43:10 AM »
I agree with all of this but also see this conversation as an opportunity for the AHA to make COTY more meaningful.

Sounds like COTY is already meaningful based on the upset people posting.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 26, 2015, 10:37:14 AM »

I'm sure this will be contentious, but I wanted to see how others felt about this before I send my thoughts to the AHA directly.

While I support the Brewing Network and enjoy their content, it's just silly that they are allowed to be considered an AHA club towards Homebrew Club of the Year... By default they reach far more people than any other club possibly could. Assuming no changes, they pretty much have 'homebrew club of the year' locked up for eternity unless another national club starts. To me and many others, a club means a local group of homebrewers that are specific to a region or geographical area. I imagine it is demoralizing to great clubs like QUAFF and other regional groups that have worked hard to build a local scene and community, and not have a chance towards club of the year.

Also, I would have liked to see the "Final Round Club of the Year" (Gambrinus Club Award?) get equal airtime to talk on the mic at the banquet as the BN did.
Maybe other clubs should learn to brew better beer. I am a member of a brew club in New Mexico, we don't worry about NHC or comps, we care about great brewing and fun. Another point that is brought up on the brewing network is there are a lot of clubs out there that are full of assholes, that turns people towards groups like TBN.

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Notice the reason the OP doesn't think the BN should be a club is because we win COTY, not because of any perceived characteristics of a club that we are lacking.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 25, 2015, 03:16:16 PM »

Justin said he's not taking the stage or mic for COTY again. So, that problem is solved. We can stop hammering out that detail.

Justin doesn't control the club anymore than he controlled me entering a couple beers under the club name. I wasnt asked to join, I wasnt asked to participate. 

For the sake of COTY, and under current COTY rules, the BN is a club, regardless of anyone's feelings. Otherwise we wouldn't have won five times in a row.

If you knew anything about it you would know that COTY is an albatross around the BNs neck. Justin and company were hoping to lose so the drama could be pointed elsewhere.

Clubs, real clubs, that want to be awesome clubs and expand their membership and win this award, should stop pouting and do the work to clean up their act and attract people away from things like the BN. No one was forced to choose BN as their club for COTY.

The current importance of COTY rests solely on the people who are making it a big deal. If you want other awards to matter more, spend more time talking about those awards, and when they announce COTY just sit there. Cricket cricket... and dont mention it again. Don't whine that someone else should make it less important for you.

What is this? As you read up on the latest biggest event in homebrewing, 99% of it is about how everyone got screwed out of an award, and how the booing was upseting, and the rooms sucked, and they didn't teach me enough,  and there was a moron in line for an event before AHA, etc etc. A small percentage was about how fun it was and the people are great. Come on people! This is supposed to be fun, supposed to be a hobby, supposed to be a bit of an escape from the daily grind.

Its a good thing my Dad isnt in charge. He'd just cancel the whole thing.

OK I lied... 1 more post... Only because I sent this as a PM earlier.. then it came up again..

I agree it's not against any rules.  Just the spirit of the thing.  Kind of like having a goalie in hockey that is 1500lbs and just blocks the whole net.  Yes there is no rule against the 'wall' goalie... but it would be against the spirit of the game.

Are you seriously talking "spirit of things" when you trying to get the BN disqualified as a club? The BN is a 1500# goalie that brews amazing beer.  To say we're not a club is just pure jealousy and it's the typical I didn't win so I'll whine about it and stomp my feet until I get my way.

You want to compete against the BN, I recommend you up your brewing game. Maybe listen to a few brew strong episodes.
Actually no.  I stated that I didn't see the need to change rules for what is and is not a club.  I only offered my opinion on why people hate the BN calling itself a club....

As to the 'up your brewing game' comment... BN only had 2 medals... To me it's not really relevant though.  I mean I know there are plenty of good brewers that enter under the BN and that don't.  Quality of beer and number of medals are not what my comments were directed towards.

But you do want to change the rules so the BN has a harder time winning COTY.

The Pub / Re: Steele Reserve drink finds rat in can
« on: June 25, 2015, 03:08:31 PM »
There's a mouse in my beer hoser!

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 25, 2015, 01:37:54 PM »
Not fair IPA's are always on top because of the sheer number of IPA's in the market.  We should limit the number of IPA's allowed in so a real beer like Tank 7 has a chance to win.

General Homebrew Discussion / I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 25, 2015, 12:16:09 PM »
Kinda wondering if you actually did read all 20 pages of this thread

Again, if you want the rules changed then write a letter to the Governing Committee or the Competition Committee.  Few members on those boards are going to read this forum and with over 300 posts even the ones that do aren't going to remember every detail.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 25, 2015, 11:48:01 AM »
Yes, everyone is allowed to have an opinion but if those in the BN Army feel like they are a club then it's a club.  Like was mentioned earlier, the sense of connection I get from the BN is just as valid as any you get from your club and I'm getting tired of trying to justify that to people that just don't like the BN winning or whatever.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 24, 2015, 07:40:02 PM »

Why is everyone so butt hurt over some booing?

Does no one here watch sports? Do winners not get booed all the time? It's par for the course, it is to be expected. I see the BN club like the Yankees; keep on booing and they will just keep on winning.

1.   Not justifying booing in pro sports but those guys make millions for their  performance and homebrewers don't get paid for NHC ribbons and medals.

2.  Butt hurt?  Not sure what to make of that statement. 

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 24, 2015, 01:52:07 PM »
Well said Justin.  Brew Strong.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 24, 2015, 01:50:50 PM »

That will at least do the trick.  This thread is a buzzkill.

I thought this thread was remarkably level-headed and insightful, and I hope the AHA at least considers some of the ideas proposed here.

For the most part this has been level-headed but some just seem to be hating on the BN.  The worst was trying to connect inappropriate comments made by BNers to the BN as a whole.  I know that the person who brought that up said that wasn't the point, but when one mentions the two together that is the effect whether it was intended or not. 

As for the ideas proposed here, I doubt the AHA will consider them unless members write to the Governing Committee or Competition Committee members specifically.  I don't think everyone on those committees is necessarily reading this thread.  I encourage anyone who has a concern to write or email members on those committees.  That's how things get done.

Yeast and Fermentation / Re: Liquid Yeast > Dry Yeast?
« on: June 24, 2015, 12:00:57 PM »

I have not, but I haven't compared it to one made with pale malt instead of Pils, either. I'm sure they would all be good beers, but that 1007 character is something I look for in my alts. It's merely a flavor preference on my part.

If you do that comparison, I think you'll find that 1007 character is pretty much identical to 1056 character.  I use them interchangeably in IPA, APA, etc.  I've also compared pale and pils malts and found virtually no difference in alt.  I've also won comps with alts made with pale malt and 1056.  Try it before you decide.  All that said, I generally make alts with pils and 1007, but more for tradition than flavor.

Do you think Wyeast 2112 Cal Lager would
make a good alt?  I liked the results on an Oktoberfest. 

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