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Commercial Beer Reviews / Re: Pilsner Urquell in brown bottles!
« on: June 24, 2015, 11:58:41 AM »
The brown bottles are those lighter brown ones and while it helps I had some skunky ones once.  After pouring hold one of the bottles up and you'll see what I'm talking about.  Almost a greenish brown.  The four pack of PU cans is still the best option.   Usually I just drink it once a year on tap at the local Slavic Festival.  Makes it that much more special.  Trader Joe's Czech Pils is what I drink when I can't find PU cans.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 24, 2015, 10:30:39 AM »

This thread coupled with the audio of the award is about the saddest thing going on in brewing.

So you haven't had a Bud Light Strawberry Lime-a-Rita?

That will at least do the trick.  This thread is a buzzkill.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 24, 2015, 09:19:55 AM »

Yeah, every time we've had multiple winners there's been grumbling starting at year 2.

Face it, repeats are a common occurrence with most of the years of this award - the award was created in 1985 - 1986-1995 it went to the Sonoma Beerocrats, 2001-2006 QUAFF, 2007-2009 St. Paul, 2011-2015 TBN. So out of 30 years of the award 24 times it's gone to a repeating club that's on a long streak.

It seems most people don't know this or choose to ignore it.  If the rules are changed to exclude the BN QUAFF will dominate.  The same problem will exist with the same people complaining about something else.  There will also be a new problem caused by alienating those in the BN.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 23, 2015, 08:11:07 PM »

I was sitting with QUAF(I am not a member of  any club). I did not hear any booing from their section.  Not much cheering.  But no booing for club of the year.  Loud cheering for  every  other medal  and award.

I think that's one reason why Justin specifically singled out QUAFF as being a badass club when he went onstage.

General Homebrew Discussion / I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 23, 2015, 08:05:37 PM »
How much booing did the rest of you in attendance hear? I didn't hear a lot; less than some of the previous 4 years. I saw some eyerolls; probably did it myself. I heard some comments. Booing? Sounded like a handful.

Thanks to the Brewing Network one can watch the awards ceremony and decide for herself.  It was streamed live and can be viewed on Livestream on most Smart TV's or any TV with a streaming device such as Roku, Chrome Cast, Fire Stick or Apple TV.  It can also be viewed on mobile devices with the Livestream app or at

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 23, 2015, 01:40:19 PM »

Send me a forum message, I'm on the GC, but not on the competition committee.

Thank you Jeff.  Message sent.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 23, 2015, 12:54:04 PM »

Regardless of rules or what Justin says, I doubt I'll write BN Army as my club anymore. It was fun, its not anymore.

Don't let them get you down Jim,  I'm more inclined to list the BN now.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 23, 2015, 12:49:03 PM »
1.  This just seems like sour grapes.
2.  Relax, it's not that big of a deal.
3.  If it is that big of a deal then RDWHAHB.
4.  If it is that big of a deal write the Governing Committee.
5.  It really isn't a big deal.
6.  Haters gonna hate. 

I'm proud to call the BN my club but like Jim, I say it kind of tongue-in-cheek.  That said, I'm probably a little biased.  Reading this thread has really been a bummer.  At first it really wrecked my worldview of the homebrewing culture/community then I realized letting some sore losers that boo people affect my view of the homebrewing community is just as silly as letting some bigots standing in line at BNA 10 affect my. view of the BN.  The BN has been one of the biggest factors in improving my brewing skills.  The AHA Forum and the awesome people on here is the other.  While this thread  has been "civil" there is an undercurrent of anti-BN sentiment.  If it really makes some one so unhappy then write the Governing Committee.  Otherwise let's argue about the quality of dry vs. liquid yeast (liquid is better) or whether or not to cold crash a starter or pitch at high Krausen.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: I like the Brewing Network, but....
« on: June 23, 2015, 12:29:36 PM »

They are having a discussion about this over on the BN forums:

Someone from QUAFF even discusses that they would be the obvious winner if the BN were to disband, but the best comment IMHO is the person who states that the BN should not change anything as it the AHA's issue, not their's, which I wholeheartedly agree with. I'm still puzzled on how the BN separates the business from the club as I still don't think they have defined that line. Not that they have to, but since Justin seems to want to emphasize a separation between the 2, then I am curious how they go about doing that.

Other than the use of the BN forum as a rally point I wasn't aware the BN business had any involvement in the organization of participants in competitions.

It doesn't.

Equipment and Software / Re: Thermapen Sale
« on: April 17, 2015, 06:29:51 PM »
I posted this in another thread.  Only $20 and reads in 6 seconds.  I'm on my second only because I set my first in an open flame.  I verified the second was calibrated out of the box just like the first.

Beer Recipes / Re: new Pale Ale
« on: April 13, 2015, 09:23:45 PM »

I hear ya, but sometimes you're surprized. I'm learning that complex recipe doesnt always come out complex in the glass.
+1 Brewing on the Ones.

Yeast and Fermentation / Belgian Pale Ale
« on: April 13, 2015, 08:34:04 PM »
Wyeast 3522 (Ardennes) is is my go-to Belgian ale yeast.  I've used it in blond, pale and Belgian Dark Strong.  It had a slight clove flavor in a blond fermented at it just under 70F but a more mellow flavor that complements the malt in a Belgian pale and BDS.  I keep it around 67F and don't care if it gets in the low 70's.  The stuff takes of like a rocket and attenuates well.

Beer Recipes / Re: APA - what makes it great
« on: April 06, 2015, 09:29:34 PM »
One of my other favorite APA's is Cardinal APA fro Nebraska Brewing.  It's a newer, aggressively late hopped ale with solid malt as well.  It's won awards as an American and English Pale.  This is one case where style guidelines suck.  Honestly as long as it tastes good, who cares?  I know that doesn't help the OP.  One might assume judges would be looking for that classic SN pale ale profile as it is the first example in the style guidelines but I doubt that is actually the case.

Beer Recipes / Re: APA - what makes it great
« on: April 05, 2015, 07:22:43 PM »

I agree the symphony metaphor is a good one as APA is generally balanced.  The style is really variable.  I classify APA as classic, or old school, and new school.  In the classic/old school category are beers such as Sierra Nevada, Boulevard  and Boston Lager (I know it's a lager).  In the new school category are Dale's Pale Ale, Odell 5 Barrel and Great Divide Denver Pale Ale.  The new APA has more hop aroma and flavor but has the malt to back it up so it is still balanced.  I also see some similarity to an amber ale as the three I mentioned as new school have some slight caramel character.

My favorite APA recipe is based off one from Basic Brewing Video.    I use 90% 2-Row and 10% C-60.  It is all late hopped with 2oz. each of Simcoe, Amarillo and Cascade at 15, 5 and flameout respectively.  I've made this beer about 6 times and love it.  I may try swapping some Munich for the 2-Row at some point.  I usually ferment it with Chico but used Pacman a few weeks ago and it subdued the hop flavor.  It came out tasting more like SN than the more assertive pale ale I prefer.  I will always use Chico on it in the future.

Edit:  I just looked on the Odell and Great Divide websites and those have won awards as English Pales.  DPA is even labeled as such.  I don't get it at all. I get more hop aroma from those than I do many other APAs.  This style is confusing.

Don't wanna be a dick but denver pale ale is actually an English style pale ale. I wouldn't consider it a new school variety at all considering it has won medals at gabf as English style...

Too late- I already caught that and noted it.  I was thinking of it as an APA because I get more hop aroma from it than SN and Boulevard.

Beer Recipes / Re: APA - what makes it great
« on: April 05, 2015, 06:44:30 PM »

Where do Victory, Biscuit, and Special Roast fit in? Style guidelines say small amounts are appropriate in APA's and don't mention these malts in Amber Ales. But more often than not I get toasty and roasty flavors in commercial Ambers and not so often in APAs.

I can't imagine putting those in an APA that I'd like to drink.  I don't like a toasty flavor in APA.

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