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Ingredients / Re: Onion in my IPA
« on: November 21, 2014, 11:43:51 PM »
Steve - is the hop character any better tonight ?

Yes!  I swapped out the CO2 regulator this afternoon, though I'm not sure that was the issue now.  Now I'm thinking it was the homemade Zuppa Toscana I had for dinner prior to the IPA.

It is still not and exceptionally good IPA, but it is solidly in the good category.  Geeze, maybe by tomorrow...

The Pub / Re: Best beer city in the world
« on: November 21, 2014, 02:20:15 PM »
And Seattle.  My goodness there are SO many small breweries around the Puget Sound area.  The I-5 corridor from Eugene to the Canadian border has so many interesting breweries one could spend more than a month going every day to new breweries.  And the good news is that most of them produce very good beer!  Sure, exceptional beer is still just that, but wow, what a richness we have here in the Pacific Northwest!

I sure would love to see Yakima get on the beer-tourism map with 1 or 2 exceptional breweries!  We have 4 breweries now.  None are in the exceptional category, but Bale Breaker may end up there.  I'm thinking 6, with two being in the exceptional category would be ideal.  A perfect weekend beer destination.

Beer Recipes / Re: American Mild v3
« on: November 21, 2014, 02:10:14 PM »
I'm curious what size of batch are you brewing.  Is it different when experimenting as opposed to a recipe you have down?

Ingredients / Re: Onion in my IPA
« on: November 21, 2014, 02:06:48 PM »
I've served IPAs at 35* and not lost flavor.  Add to that the bottles of commercial IPAs in my fridge that do just fine at 33-34*.

Yes, on the bittering addition: one 10 ml hopshot at 60 minutes.

The hydrometer sample that I collected at kegging smelled wonderful, and tasted quite good even prior to any carbonation.  I did forget to dump the yeast prior to dry-hopping this time, so that could contribute, but I didn't have any issues when I was fermenting and dry-hopping in a carboy.

I do think the carbonation is the best bet at this point, but I'm regularly amazed at the stark difference a day can make.  I don't know if it is my tastebuds being ruined by something I ate, or my body's chemistry is different, minor allergies, or what, but one day a beer will be marvelous and the next boring - so that may be it too.

Ingredients / Re: Onion in my IPA
« on: November 21, 2014, 10:13:33 AM »
Two things that come to mind that will seemingly remove hop flavor and aroma. Overcarbonation and too cold a serving pressure. Any chance this is the case?

Serving temp of 38*.  I do have a new CO2 regulator that I'm about to replace because it won't hold a steady pressure.  So I'm guessing that is it.  It didn't seem overly carbonated to my tongue but the two thresholds may have different levels.

Thanks for the tip, I didn't know that!

Ingredients / Re: Onion in my IPA
« on: November 20, 2014, 11:46:39 PM »
Well the onion is gone... and so is all the flavor.  So weird, so frustrating.  Had a pint tonight and it was like drinking fizz water.  Ok that is hyperbole, but still.  I used 13 oz. apparently to no avail:

2.00 oz Amarillo [8.80 %] - Boil 5.0 min
2.00 oz Citra [14.10 %] - Boil 5.0 min
2.00 oz Citra [14.10 %] - Steep/Whirlpool
2.00 oz Mosaic [12.70 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 
3.00 oz Mosaic [12.70 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days
2.00 oz Citra [14.10 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days

We'll see if it comes around again.  I've heard of wine doing that.  Pretty disgusted right now.

Equipment and Software / Re: Grain Mill
« on: November 19, 2014, 08:17:04 PM »
From JSP website, I thought gear drive was only available on the adjustable, one side model.

You are correct!  Geeze how short is my memory...

Equipment and Software / Re: Grain Mill
« on: November 19, 2014, 04:16:33 PM »
I wanted this one to be that last mill I buy so I went all in: Adjustable on both ends, gear drive, large hopper adapter, and case hardened rollers.   I'm not sure the adjustable is all that important - I keep it on its tightest setting and it plows through the grain. 

I cut the female end off a piece of PVC pipe and upended a better bottle I was no longer using for a hopper:

Ingredients / Re: Onion in my IPA
« on: November 19, 2014, 04:09:19 PM »
No Summit.  Amarillo, Citra and Mosaic.  I have heard that Mosaic can lend a little onion to the soup.  I'm headed out to purge the headspace!

Ingredients / Onion in my IPA
« on: November 19, 2014, 02:45:05 PM »
As I mentioned in a post elsewhere, my most recent IPA has an onion flavor to it.  I understand from other reading that this will dissipate.  My question is should I flush CO2 out of the keg?  Would that speed the process?

Belma is one I would probably avoid as a single hop. It's not that it has a bad flavor but the flavors are very gentle and it is seemingly impossible to get those flavors to really pop on their own.

Yes, according to the growers the total oils are only .8 mL/100g.  By comparison Citra has 2.2 - 2.8 mL / 100g.

The IPA I just brewed is the first one to exhibit an onion flavor.  It is not overwhelming, but I do hope it dissipates.  As I understand it the issue is harvesting the hops too late.  That is when onion shows up.  Anyway, for what its worth here the hopping schedule I used:

1 10 ml hop shot at 60 minutes
2.00 oz Amarillo [8.80 %] - Boil 5.0 min
2.00 oz Citra [14.10 %] - Boil 5.0 min
2.00 oz Citra [14.10 %] - Steep/Whirlpool
2.00 oz Mosaic [12.70 %] - Steep/Whirlpool
3.00 oz Mosaic [12.70 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop
2.00 oz Citra [14.10 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Great Day
« on: November 17, 2014, 09:39:05 AM »
I got one of those Behmor coffee roasters for Christmas last year.  I enjoy doing it, but as it turns out it is no more economical to roast my own as to buy pre-roasted coffee from Costco - and I like them both equally.  So I buy the occasional couple of pounds of green coffee to roast, but mostly I drink Costco stuff.

Equipment and Software / Re: Grain Mill
« on: November 16, 2014, 06:11:09 AM »
I know I always say this but...  people tend to like the mill they have.

I have a BC.  I've used it for 7 years and it has always worked great until last Spring when it started having issues pulling grain into the rollers.  The main roller would spin but no grain would go through. 

That is the issue I had with the BC and the Captain Crush.  The BC started doing it after about a year, and the CC did it right off.

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