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General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Gravity/volume adjustment
« on: March 15, 2015, 09:15:57 AM »
I haven't let tap water anywhere near a batch of beer in years because my tap water tastes awful. So if that is your situation then I would avoid tap water and opt for bottled water. $0.70 for a gallon of water at the store is a worthwhile investment to keep out nasty tap water.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Luxury
« on: March 15, 2015, 09:12:25 AM »
Golf is a real mystery to me. I don't get it. If the explanation is that it's a reasonable excuse to get away from the house and enjoy some time outdoors with friends with a few beers then I guess I can understand that.

Ingredients / Re: Using potatoes?
« on: March 15, 2015, 09:02:31 AM »
The solid content of a potato is about 85% carbohydrate and 15% protein. I would expect the glucose created by degrading the starch content of the potato would thin the beer out more than the protein would add body. My guess is that the potato thinned out the beer some and took away some of the grain flavor that gave the impression of smoothness.

Kegging and Bottling / Re: Beer won't Come out of Keg :-(
« on: March 15, 2015, 08:47:44 AM »
Have you asked the beer nicely to come out?

Kegging and Bottling / Re: o-ring lube for corny kegs?
« on: March 15, 2015, 08:46:59 AM »
Astroglide works wonders on an o-ring.

Wood/Casks / Re: Barrel conditioning a Barley Wine Temp
« on: March 15, 2015, 08:46:16 AM »
In a 53 gallon barrel you aren't going to see that much change in temperature due to the volume of beer. You might see movement of a few degrees during the day and then dropping back off over night. Nothing to be alarmed about.

All Grain Brewing / Re: Decoction
« on: March 15, 2015, 08:43:39 AM »


Dennis, appreciate your participation on the forum! Please do not use all caps, it is misconstrued as YELLING!

Maybe he is just that passionate about hefeweizen yeast.

There have been quite a few disputes of late.

Will New Belgium get any flack in their adopted state of NC once that brewery opens for going after the little brewery in TX? Have any NB tap handles been lost in Asheville just on principle?

Next time I go to Asheville I will leave my Bell's logo vest at home in the closet.  :o

There are a very small number of places in Texas that claimed to have dropped NB but most of the outrage about the situation dropped over after a week or two. I expect the same to occur here.

How many of the Pros here have attorneys?

As a friend who has a brewpub says - "Your first hire should be your attorney. The second should be your accountant."

Of the smaller breweries I have interacted with, scant few have ever worked with an attorney. There are a number of brewery owners who think of attorneys as not just a luxury but a waste of money. That attitude isn't specific to brewing; it's common across small businesses and people generally.

Homebrew Clubs / Re: Not for profit, ein, or nothing?
« on: March 13, 2015, 08:20:04 AM »
I think you can become a 501c7 'not for profit' social organization without too much trouble. That would give you the liability protection of having a corporation, but the requirements are not too difficult. It's basically set up for clubs - like ski clubs, running clubs, etc - that want to organize events for members but are not trying to make money at it. The main requirement is that your expenses equal revenue each year so that you are actually not making money.

You will still need to incorporate or elect another limited liability organization through your state. The IRS does not and cannot create limited liability entities.

I don't quite see how Innovation Brewing would ever be confused as Innovation Brew Works.

Can guys with a JD comment on that?

It's a question of whether customers could be confused by the similarity. The standard is a generic customer rather than a beer snob. Would a generic customer, walking into a bar, really identify a difference between Brewing and Brew Works? I'm not sure they would, especially when we tend to discuss breweries by leaving off the brewing/brewery/etc. So it would be very easy for somebody to read about or overhear a discussion about one Innovation and mistakenly believe it could be the other. That might not be bad if both breweries are good but if one isn't then the brewery with the superior beers is at risk for losing business over the confusion.

What I don't understand is its only on there bumper sticker why the hell do they care not like it's one of their beers or label art or anything it's a bumper sticker tht prolly only people on Michigan know about.

According to their opposition to the trademark application, Bell's has not only been using the bumper sticker for thirty years but they have been using "Bottling Innovation" as an advertising slogan since 2009. If true, that precedes the existence of Innovation Brewing's use of the name in commerce. We don't get Bell's here in Texas so I'm not sure how much they really use that slogan but they say they use it and I imagine it would be easy to prove where and when it is printed on their advertising materials and packaging.

All Grain Brewing / Re: Decoction
« on: March 12, 2015, 08:15:25 AM »
If you are using an undermodified pils in that beer you might want to perform a protein rest (at least a short one) but otherwise I agree that you can do without the protein rest.

General Homebrew Discussion / Re: Brew Weekend
« on: March 12, 2015, 08:12:11 AM »
I might try to squeeze in a little brewing this weekend but I have a lot to do and probably won't get around to it.

I thought it was a challenge to a trademark application? Not a law suit, but it is before the Feds for a decision, so both sides need to lawyer up.

JD s can correct me.

Right. Innovation Brewing applied for a federal trademark and Bell's filed an opposition asserting that they have a preexisting right.

I've uploaded Bell's opposition here:

It's worth pointing out that this opposition was filed nearly a year ago. It's been in the trademark office's administrative review process since. It's sort of like a trial procedure but nobody wins money, just a federal trademark (or the mark is denied). It seems Innovation ran to the media this month to complain about it. What's interesting about the timing of the sudden media exposure is that it came on the same day Bell's asked for a discovery extension because they allege Innovation has failed to adequately respond to discovery and they need time to work out the dispute over the discovery responses. Innovation, it seems, ran to the media to try to pressure Bell's to back off. That suggests Innovation is intentionally trying to avoid disclosing its position and evidence in discovery as procedural rules require. So I wouldn't say Innovation is behaving the most professionally over the whole issue.

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